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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
I didn’t want to hijack the Lent thread but I’m sitting here on vacation waiting on my 2 year old to wake up from a nap and started thinking about the whole “no meat on Fridays” thing. This is not in the Bible, is it? How did this even become a thing? I grew up in a Catholic home until age 6 or so until my father divorced and remarried a Protestant and we grew up Protestant. The concept of no meat on Fridays wasn’t even a thing to us and I remember going to my VERY devout Catholic grandmother’s house one Good Friday and her asking us what we ate for dinner that night and I innocently replied “spaghetti and meatballs” and she flipped out that we were “going to hell” and all sorts of other nonsense. All to kids like 8-12 years old, lovely.  I really doubt Jesus would care WHAT we ate on Fridays to be honest, I think He would care that we were being good representations of him on Earth and following what he DID say in the Bible? | ||
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I don't know about the religious aspect, but I look forward to Lent because my local restaurant serves a delicious fish and shrimp basket during that period. As far as religious rants go, I'd have to speak to the woman about raving in front of my kids. If she has an issue, she should speak to you about it, not the kids. | |||
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| I swear I had something for this |
Most likely Catholic Tradition/Dogma that existed for so long it became "law." Don't forget that one of the reasons the Protestant Reformation was because Catholic Priest Martin Luther was upset at the Catholic Church for not teaching The Bible and none of the worshippers could correct them because at the time The Bible was written in Hebrew and Latin that only the Priests could read or understand. I also don't remember anything in The Bible about how to perform an exorcism either, but I guess there's rules for that too? | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
Some may find this article helpful. There are a few things that are Church doctrine, not from the Bible. Are Meatless Fridays Still a Thing? Does it Matter? _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
All I know, from the Carholic side of my family, is that to help them understand what Jesus went through while fasting and being tempted by the Devil for 40 days in the wilderness, they give something up for Lent. In this case, they give up meat, once a week, and replace it with something better. Without going in to detail, the Catholic side of my family is weird and probably not a good representation of Catholics as a whole. | |||
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Greek Orthodox has the no meat Fridays and the church is getting ready for the Friday fish frys. I used to do it and most of my family still does. I eat meat most days and kinda like it so I stopped. To each his/her own. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
In a nutshell, it is a sacrifice on our part meant to commemorate and honor Jesus' sacrifice (on a Friday) for us, and to ultimately bring us closer to God. There's a bit more to it, but that's the gist. While not generally practiced every Friday these days, many still do it throughout Lent, and at the very least on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.
"Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me." Mt 16:24 Denying oneself is abstaining/sacrifice. There are many references to abstinence and sacrifice throughout the bible. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado  |
I grew up in a Catholic home. My mom was devout, my dad went along but just to keep the piece. We didn't eat meat on Friday. And even as a kid I didn't mind it because we had fish sticks, peanut butter & jelly and lots of non meat stuff kids liked. One day my mom served some beans, not knowing it was pork and beans. When she realized it, she said several roserys. Today, I still get a hankering for fish on Fridays. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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St. Gorton's Said on to thee, Only things that swim shall be sacrificed on Fridays. Those followers will be anointed With Old Spice. Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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The cake is a lie! |
How is fish not considered meat? | |||
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I think it's because fish are not warm-blooded. That would be a religious reason, not a scientific one. "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado |
Meat is red and bloody, and the animals run around on dry land crapping all over the place. Fish swim around in water which makes them more clean. Well unless you consider the crapping in the water part. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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I suspect it is more a live birth thing rather than warm, or maybe red blood, but that means fowl would be OK. I once had a Muslim co-worker go on and on about how eating pork, or not fasting during Eid is a mortal sin, and would inevitably result in the transgressor going straight to Hell with no shot at redemption (I happened to be enjoying a delicious pulled pork sandwich at the time). Christianity isn't the only faith that has illogical food prohibitions.
"Never drink water, fish fuck in it." - W. C. Fields | |||
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I found this. The explanation comes from the 15th century, from one John Myre in his Liber Festivalis: “For when God, for Adam’s sin, cursed the earth and the land, he cursed not the water; wherefore it is lawful for a man to eat in Lent that which cometh of the water.” To put it differently, we eat fish as a reminder of God’s mercy. Ponder that and try that answer the next time someone asks you about your fish sandwich. Father Daren Zehnle is pastor at St. Augustine Parish in Ashland and St. Peter Parish in Petersburg and is the director for the Office of Divine Worship and the Catechumenate for the Diocese of Springfield in Illinois. For a long while I thought some pope was trying to help his brothers fish trade. Bring in the cash. I read where Queen Anne, Henry’s the 8th daughter did just that but outlawed meat on Wendsays to help their fishing industries. https://www.npr.org/sections/t...ating-fish-on-friday | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
Although not raised Catholic, I always enjoyed meatless Fridays. My high school always served delicious filets of perch those days, and I loved them. I traded my mashed potatoes every day to another student (who loved mashed potatoes) for his perch filet on Friday. I'm still very fond of fried perch, but don't see it very often. My current favorite fish is Haddock, but only one restaurant here in Dallas that I know of has it on the regular menu. I make do with my alternate favorite, flounder. Red Lobster has a great meal with fried flounder, baked potato (empty) and green beans. Yum! flsahguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Tequila with lime |
Lent isn't a scripturally sound doctrine. It does not come from any part of scripture. It's roots tie back into Babylonian paganism (which preceded Roman paganism). It was 40 days of weeping of Semiramus (called Ishtar in the Roman pantheon) who wept for her son Tammuz (sun god) who was the son also of Nimrod. Tammuz was killed by a boar (biblically unclean animal) while hunting. Ishtar wept for 40 days and Tammuz resurrected. That's the origin of Lent. Check Ezekiel chapter 8 for a condemnation of those who weep for Tammuz. Ishtar, where we get the term "Easter," is a pagan fertility goddess. No, you don't have to keep Lent. No, you don't have to give up beef and chicken for it. If you want to do more reading on the subject, just do searches for "Pagan origin of Lent." Something to consider doing if you really want to study scripture, start in the beginning. Pay close attention to Babylon in Genesis. It plays into a lot of stuff that happens later. From a historical perspective, look into Babylonian sun worship and how it influenced later cultures. Also look into the Babylonian trinity. Thank you President Trump. | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us  |
Granted I am a fairly new Catholic convert and have given up soda for lent each year since converting, I will do so again this year but also just plan to end it completely. As far as giving up meat on Fridays but being allowed to eat fish was explained to me that meat was very much considered a luxury in Jesus’ time hence the reason sheep, cows, and goats were usually given as a sacrifice prior to Christ dying for us, fish was not seen as a luxury and that is one reason being it was still allowed to be eaten on Friday’s. The meat being the sacrifice on the day Christ died for is. I have not given up meat in years past on Fridays during Lent. However this year I will. I was raised Protestant in Cincinnati which is very very Catholic. I never asked why just enjoyed lots and lots of Fish Fry’s. Now where I live there are not so many and my kiddos can’t eat gluten so that makes it even more difficult as we haven’t found any that are gluten free. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Plowing straight ahead come what may |
Growing up in a Jehovah’s Witness environment (until I ditched that cult in 1983…sorry if “cult” offends) I never got a grasp on the “fish on Fridays” thing while in school (year round)…Austell Georgia wasn’t a “hotbed” of Catholic or Lutheran teachings…so the teachings concerning Lent were to come only when my family joined the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod after moving to Tennessee in 1986 (only one LCMS and Catholic Church locally unless you drive to the thriving metropolis of Chattanooga)…I now understand the history of Lent and what those fish only Fridays w/o “meat” meant (I’m still in the dark about those daily bowls of black olives on our school’s lunch table were about…looking back, I started my “ripe olive” love of today from the Austell Elementary School Cafeteria)…the older you get, the more you learn and the more questions go unanswered…especially when ripe olives are involved  …Black92LX…your post truthfully brings everything to light as the “to why” aspect …thank you, my friend!******************************************************** "we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet | |||
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This is pretty much where I land on the subject. Very well stated. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
 Y'all are unholy heathens for only giving up meat 1 day a week during Lent. I'm Protestant, but I give up meat 2 to 3 days a week during Lent. It has nothing to do with peak crawfish season (large crawfish with softer shells) typically starting a little before Ash Wednesday and ending a little after Easter.  Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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