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So, there ya go, Meg. Mystery solved. Trump isn't part of your imaginary "war on women". Your wounds are self-inflicted. In your eagerness to play "gotcha" instead of taking seriously your responsibility as a supposed journalist, you committed professional suicide, and at a most critical time in our nation's history.

This makes my day. Truly, it does. Fox was overdue for a reality check at the popularity of Donald Trump and now perhaps they have a clue as to what time it is.

I'd also love to see George Will eat his words.
 
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I always thought that in a debate set up like this, the questions were vetted by the higher ups. Apparently that is not true and the moderators are just told, 'come up with some good questions'...?
 
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For me it's President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
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For me it's President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
Five-time Ultimate Smackdown Champion! Big Grin



Who is that? Mr. T in dreads?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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^ that's President Dwayne Elozando Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, of course.
 
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Bashing Trump:
Jeb Bush bastardizes conservatism to justify his agenda

George H.W. Bush promoted "kinder and gentler conservatism," which implied that conservatism is neither kind nor gentle. Mitt Romney said he was "severely" conservative, as if liberty and free markets can be "severe." Now it is Jeb Bush's turn to philosophically vandalize conservatism with his "Conservative Immigration Reform Agenda."

Donald Trump has introduced the idea of an immigration system which comes down to the mass deportation of 11 million people at a cost of as much as $600 billion, massive new federal powers to step on the civil liberties of ordinary Americans, and a border plan that could be best described as a fantasy.

That plan is not something a small-government conservative would put forward. It requires the federal government to manage the exorbitantly expensive mass deportation of millions of people. It also requires a massive public works project unlike anything we’ve seen since the construction of the Hoover Dam – and the federal government, as you may have noticed, hasn’t been capable of running such a project judiciously of late.

Bush provides no evidence of where his $600 billion figure comes from. In actuality, once illegals are cut off from housing, schools, medical care, and jobs, many will self-deport. He has no problem supporting the $700-billion TARP bailout for big banks, but not a small fraction of that for a border fence.

Bush also shows a total lack of understanding of what a small-government conservative is. A small-government conservative spends on only the essentials – national defense and security being the primary focus. Not hundreds of billions to bail out banks. It is precisely the security of the nation that a conservative would focus the government on. Bush seems to think that spending money to build a wall is liberal, while spending hundreds of billions for corporate welfare is conservative.

A great nation must secure its borders for national security and public health reasons. We don’t have to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on fencing when we can use new technology

This is what liberals say who don't want to secure the border – that they will have video cameras and drones that will watch the illegals streaming across, and that will substitute for a border fence.

We must find a practical solution to the status of the 11 million people here illegally today. We need a vigorous path to earned legal status where people are required to learn English, pay a fine and taxes, pass a criminal background check, work and not receive federal government benefits.

And what if they don't do any of these things? Will Bush push to deport them then? Certainly not. In any event, conservatives believe in the rule of law, and these people are here illegally. Rewarding their illegality is not conservative; it's flagrant disgard for the law.

As a deeply committed conservative who has spent my adult life fighting to strengthen the Republican Party and to advance the causes of limited government and individual freedom, I am confident we will choose the path that best meets those missions.

It's offensive to hear Jeb Bush call himself, and by extension his amnesty policies, "conservative." Legalizing illegal aliens has nothing to do with limited government and individual freedom. We lose our individual freedoms when illegals rape and kill our citizens, when they take our tax dollars for "social" services, and when Spanish becomes the primary language in our kindergartens. Limited government is about attending to the security of the nation, but Jeb Bush twists it like a punch line in a joke.

His redefining of conservatism is just like what the liberals do when they redefine a man as a woman or a nuclear proliferation deal as an arms control treaty. If he's nominated, he will further dispirit voters who want a clear contrast, and we will lose again, just like with Romney and McCain.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com...a.html#ixzz3kDavDwrS


All of them do. Everyone is basically saying Government, under me, is the answer. "I'll do this, I'll do that."

Where are the Coolidgeans? What about dropping all those TLAs? How about hiring the bureaucrats to rebuild infrastructure instead of sitting in their asses all day rebuilding e-mail files?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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All of them do.



No, there may only be a handful left, but don't lump them in with the establishment hacks like Bush. I don't care what happens that guy isn't getting my vote.
 
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No, there may only be a handful left, but don't lump them in with the establishment hacks like Bush. I don't care what happens that guy isn't getting my vote.


No way, no how.
I won't vote for Bush. I won't vote for Clinton.
The odds-makers still say it's going to be Bush v. Clinton. I'll puke.
If so, I'll just vote the local races and leave an under-vote (blank space) for President.

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Where are the Coolidgeans? What about dropping all those TLAs? How about hiring the bureaucrats to rebuild infrastructure instead of sitting in their asses all day rebuilding e-mail files?


I agree. Big Coolidge fan. But Bush is so far away from Coolidge it's a different universe.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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I can't imagine how anything about "Reality TV" could be anything but disparaging.


Your Stevenson quote is perfect for the race for the Presidency. "Most intelligent voters" will not be enough. You will have a large cross section of independent voters who are not informed of the latest political news and opinions, but they know Trump through his "hard negotiator" image on reality TV shows. And they like his plain simple rhetoric. Trump I'm sure is not only targeting serious conservatives and jaded political junkies, but folks outside of your "intelligent voters" bloc.

In an earlier post, justjoe linked a WSJ piece by Peggy Noonan that is worth reading. An excerpt:

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I’ve written before about an acquaintance—late 60s, northern Georgia, lives on Social Security, voted Obama in ’08, not partisan, watches Fox News, hates Wall Street and “the GOP establishment.” She continues to be so ardent for Mr. Trump that she not only watched his speech in Mobile, Ala., on live TV, she watched while excitedly texting with family members—middle-class, white, independent-minded—who were in the audience cheering. Is that “the Republican base”? I guess maybe it is, because she texted me Wednesday, saying: “I registered to vote today! I am a Republican now!!!” I asked if she’d ever been one before. Reply: “No, never!!!”

Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

“He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.”

He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is “disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which he means as “bull----.”

He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different notions from the grass-roots working people.”



"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
 
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. Trump could very well be the first Reality TV President, and I don't mean that in a disparaging way.


I can't imagine how anything about "Reality TV" could be anything but disparaging.

When we can't separate the 2 we end up here.


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Looks like Megyn Kelly thought she was going to take a big swing on Donald Trump and put him down and be a hero. Looks like a swing and a miss to me!
 
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All of them do.



No, there may only be a handful left, but don't lump them in with the establishment hacks like Bush. I don't care what happens that guy isn't getting my vote.


Nobody lumped. I don't hear any small government conservatives, if that is what we yearn for, yet. Not Bush, not Cruz, not Carlie, not Whatzizname, the former Governor of Virginia, or any of them.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Looks like Megyn Kelly thought she was going to take a big swing on Donald Trump and put him down and be a hero. Looks like a swing and a miss to me!

No, she's married.
 
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Who knows what Megyn Kelly was thinking? My guess would be that she thought she had much more celebrity clout than Trump, and that viewers would be completely on her side as she took down The Donald. In her mind, a milestone for her career, a "Remember when Megyn tore Trump a new one?" moment.

She has read her FB, read the tweets, and seen across the internet the widespread revulsion with her and Fox in general. If she had immediately come out and apologized to Trump and to her viewers, she might have weathered this.

I don't know whether that story about her going to CNN is bogus. If she stays at Fox "The Kelly File" will be a slowly sinking ship. So, she has to do something. I wouldn't be surprised if CNN really wants her, and she decides to go. It's desperate meets desperate to make a desperate deal.


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Looks like Megyn Kelly thought she was going to take a big swing on Donald Trump and put him down and be a hero. Looks like a swing and a miss to me!

No, she's married.
Given she plugs her husband and/or his book on every other episode, yet something else that annoys the tar out of me, I think everyone knows she's married.


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The Kelly File on Fox is doing just fine on ratings currently, it is not going to sink.

It's the impartiality part of her reputation that has suffered. Her show is opinion journalism and that is what she does best.

Bringing opinion journalism into the debate was her mistake.


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Hillary's only appeal seems to be the idea of the first woman President.


I want to see the chromosome test



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Enough of that.
 
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Enough of that.
Sorry...



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In some ways, I am hoping Donald's un-pc comments will lead to more politicians having these bare knuckles verbal bouts.

At one time in our history, this was commonplace.

Before my time, folks running for office used to have knock down drag outs and the press would report on such.

Sometimes the events reporter were downright salacious.

I bet if we return the old days regarding this, we would all be better learned and informed.

Not to mention the entertainment value it would yield, so I won't mention it.


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