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Originally posted by BBMW:
The top vs bottom post thing is an argument that's raged since web forums have existed. I subscribe to the top post school of thought, because the newest post is the most important, and most people don't want to wade through all the history to get to the latest post. To each his own.

As far the polls, people who don't like what the polls say think they're rigged. Those who like the numbers, don't.

Were they rigged when Trump was surging before the debate? Were they rigged when the predicted Obama would win and he did, twice.

I sense a lot of whistling past the graveyard.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
I will point out that the polls had Trump ahead in the primaries wire to wire, and were correct. Now, when they're not telling you what you want to hear, it's a vast left wing conspiracy.

BBMW - these threads would be a lot easier to follow if you were to post your replies at the BOTTOM.

You're referencing the polls that were created by those who desperately wanted Trump to be the nominee, as he is the one they thought they could destroy after the convention. Of course they showed Trump way ahead. They are the same people who now desperately want to destroy the monster they purposely created. Do you really think they're going to show Trump leading now? Of course not. In reality, Trump is leading nationally by the same huge numbers you saw in the primary season. It's all a huge scam. Ignore the polls.

You don't have to speak of substance, just hyperbole. The polls have never been correct. If they showed Trump ahead by 5, it was likely actually 15-20. Anyone with a brain stem can look at the polling method and see it.

But, no, it is the fault of those who view it as "a vast left wing conspiracy". I mean, there is NOT A SMIDGEN OF EVIDENCE that the polls, media, establishment, etc have been rigged to make it seem that Trump is failing. Or behind. Or to lend the impression that Trump just can't win. NOT A SMIDGEN. They have put their top men on it on it to make sure. Hell, it wasn't rigged against Bernie, either. Those Clintons, they are stand up people.

Nope, we can't win. So, why try. Those democrats are so smart. Obama's polls? Wow. I'm sure the polls weren't messed with then, either.

Read the tweets on Drudge. Overwhelmingly, they attack Bill and Hillary for their hypocrisy. Megyn Kelly and the other Clinton stooges will flog this to death, but let's think about this:

Trump says some dirty things.

Bill rapes women.

Hillary defends and enables the rapist.

Really want to go into this, Hillary?

Paul Ryan just blasted Trump and said he won't be attending the rally with him tomorrow now as a result. Drop dead, you punk.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Paul Ryan just blasted Trump and said he won't be attending the rally with him tomorrow now as a result. Drop dead, you punk.

Do you have a source? Schedule still shows it. It's an event for down-ballot Republicans as much as it is for Trump and the 10 EC votes but a cancellation of the invitation by Ryan, 32 days before the election, would be a significant development. I'll be shocked, and really disappointed, if it doesn't happen as scheduled. This late in the game, no matter how much we don't like the nag, the horse we are riding is the only one we're going to have. Ryan needs to consider much more than his own skin here. Much, much more at stake.

ETA: The only source I could find so far was from Politico but they're too leftist to take seriously. A cancellation now.....for an event 24 hours before the presidential debate, would indeed be huge. There's nothing the Democrats can do to win this election at this point but our side can still throw it away. The GOP pays millions of dollars for spin doctors....this event in WI needs to go on as scheduled tomorrow and the spin people need to come up with a winning message for Trump to use when he gets there.

Trump needs to say he was talking about Bill Clinton.

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Originally posted by smschulz:
Trump needs to say he was talking about Bill Clinton.

No, he needs to reel off a slew of quotes from Hillary talking about the women that Bill raped, and then say nothing more on the subject.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Paul Ryan just blasted Trump and said he won't be attending the rally with him tomorrow now as a result. Drop dead, you punk.

Do you have a source? Schedule still shows it. It's an event for down-ballot Republicans as much as it is for Trump and the 10 EC votes but a cancellation of the invitation by Ryan, 32 days before the election, would be a significant development. I'll be shocked, and really disappointed, if it doesn't happen as scheduled. This late in the game, no matter how much we don't like the nag, the horse we are riding is the only one we're going to have. Ryan needs to consider much more than his own skin here. Much, much more at stake.

Megyn Kelly announced it live on her show. Chris Stirewalt was shocked at the news. Yes it's significant if true.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Paul Ryan just blasted Trump and said he won't be attending the rally with him tomorrow now as a result. Drop dead, you punk.

Do you have a source? Schedule still shows it. It's an event for down-ballot Republicans as much as it is for Trump and the 10 EC votes but a cancellation of the invitation by Ryan, 32 days before the election, would be a significant development. I'll be shocked, and really disappointed, if it doesn't happen as scheduled. This late in the game, no matter how much we don't like the nag, the horse we are riding is the only one we're going to have. Ryan needs to consider much more than his own skin here. Much, much more at stake.

Megyn Kelly announced it live on her show. Chris Stirewalt was shocked at the news. Yes it's significant if true.

Well damn........ok, we drink like mad tonight and we'll do the BDA tomorrow........It's not good.

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It's not good.

It's over. I've got to vote for Hillary now.

40% or better of our population can't even name the VP candidates. Anybody who decides who to vote for over this trivial crap shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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It's not good.

It's over. I've got to vote for Hillary now.

40% or better of our population can't even name the VP candidates. Anybody who decides who to vote for over this trivial crap shouldn't be allowed to vote.

No you don't... There are several 3rd party options, plus you could just not vote for president if you can't bring yourself to vote for Trump.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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It's not good.

It's over. I've got to vote for Hillary now.

40% or better of our population can't even name the VP candidates. Anybody who decides who to vote for over this trivial crap shouldn't be allowed to vote.

^^^ Are you quoting me? If so, quote me:

Not good. But is this really an issue that Hillary Clinton wants to try to exploit? Married to a rapist? Having branded the women he assaulted "bimbos," coining the term, "bimbo eruptions"?

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^^^ Are you quoting me? If so, quote me:

No. Mainframe Coder, who said it in a much more defeatist manner.

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No you don't... There are several 3rd party options, plus you could just not vote for president if you can't bring yourself to vote for Trump.

I was really hoping for Jeb.

Paul Ryan needs to wrap his lips around the exhaust of some dickhead 'rolling coal' and inhale for a day or three, or until he otherwise shuts up. Mouthy prick, that guy is.

After reading the last couple of pages I watched the video. WTF? I ass dialed my wife when I was golfing and I said much worse than that about women. She's still married to me ten years later and she still laughs about it. This aint shit, yet the MSM is going to push it... unless Trump shuts her down in the debate with Hillary's remarks about Bill's bimbos. This shouldn't be a panic moment by any means.

Oh, Fuck Paul Ryan. He got his head handed to him by Joe Biden in a debate. A fucking RINO.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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It's not good.

It's over. I've got to vote for Hillary now.

40% or better of our population can't even name the VP candidates. Anybody who decides who to vote for over this trivial crap shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Political winds change direction so very quickly. What happened today is indeed not good but it's far from fatal. I do hope that Trump calls a press conference tomorrow and gets ahead of it before the debate on Sunday. The message needs to be very simple and direct:

"I screwed up...it was indeed vulgar. I had been drinking but it's no excuse. I wasn't running for anything at the time, had no public expectations to uphold, but it doesn't excuse how inappropriate my remarks were 11 years ago. My campaign will double our efforts to deliver our message on jobs, the economy, our security, and will not allow this unfortunate episode from a social event in my past to deter us from the mission we are on to make America great again."

Something very direct, to the point, and then move on. The media will try to grow this but Trump can likely kill it if he gets out in front of it tomorrow. It MUST be done before Sunday's debate.

This can be fixed. There is time. If this is the best "October Surprise" the libs can come up with, it's still our race to lose. It just got a little harder this evening. We also don't know what "October Surprises" the Trump camp, or others, have in store for Hillary. Our crisis tonight could be their crisis a week from now.

UPDATE: This was just posted on Trump's website:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/p...from-donald-j.-trump

It's not nearly enough. This is going to require a full presser tomorrow and a falling on the sword. I really wish he hadn't referenced Bill Clinton...it's so juvenile.

The Democrats circled the wagons around the man who got blow jobs from an intern in the Oval Office and raped women. The Republicans elbow one another out of the way to stick a dagger in Trump's back for talking dirty.

I hate the Democrats. For the Republicans I have no words.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
The Democrats circled the wagons around the man who got blow jobs from an intern in the Oval Office and raped women. The Republicans elbow one another out of the way to stick a dagger in Trump's back for talking dirty.

I hate the Democrats. For the Republicans I have no words.

One Hundred Percent agree. Oh, that wasn't dirty talking. Go to lunch with a bunch of software geeks and you'll get a little closer to dirty. Go to lunch with guys working road construction and you'll be much closer to dirty

Trump will be releasing a video statement about this nonsense shortly.

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Originally posted by Bytes:
After reading the last couple of pages I watched the video. WTF? I ass dialed my wife when I was golfing and I said much worse than that about women.

You should hear us sailors at the breakfast table in the mess just chatting about the local Philly news weather girl.