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Ailes calls on Trump to apologize for 'unprovoked attack' on Megyn Kelly

Fox News CEO and Chairman Roger Ailes on Tuesday called for Donald Trump to apologize for his "unprovoked attack" against host Megyn Kelly, after the Republican presidential candidate made a series of disparaging comments about "The Kelly File" host on Twitter the previous evening.

"Donald Trump rarely apologizes, although in this case, he should," Ailes said in a statement. "We have never been deterred by politicians or anyone else attacking us for doing our job, much less allowed ourselves to be bullied by anyone and we're certainly not going to start now."

Trump targeted Kelly after she asked him a number of tough questions during a Fox News-hosted debate by GOP presidential candidates on Aug. 6. A series of subsequent remarks by Trump led to a clear-the-air conversation with Ailes, and the candidate has since made a number of appearances on Fox News programs.

But Trump renewed his attacks on Monday night, during Kelly's show. In a series of tweets, Trump criticized Kelly's handling of an interview segment on her show, claimed her just-concluded and long-planned summer vacation with her family was in fact unscheduled, and retweeted a tweet referring to her as a "bimbo."

Trump issued a response later Tuesday afternoon, saying "I totally disagree with the Fox statement." Trump also repeated his claims that Kelly's questioning of him during the debate "was very unfair."

Some of Kelly's Fox colleagues also came to her defense on Tuesday. Bret Baier, who moderated the debate with Kelly and Chris Wallace, tweeted that "this needs to stop." Brian Kilmeade said on "Fox & Friends" that Trump's comments bothered him personally.

"We are all friends with Donald Trump, but he is totally out of bounds reigniting that fight," Kilmeade said. "I don't know if he's trying to get ratings out of that or poll numbers, but he's not going to be successful."

Fox News' Sean Hannity also tweeted: "My friend @realDonaldTrump has captured the imagination of many. Focus on Hillary, Putin, border, jobs, Iran China & leave @megynkelly alone."

The full Ailes statement reads as follows:

"Donald Trump's surprise and unprovoked attack on Megyn Kelly during her show last night is as unacceptable as it is disturbing. Megyn Kelly represents the very best of American journalism and all of us at FOX News Channel reject the crude and irresponsible attempts to suggest otherwise. I could not be more proud of Megyn for her professionalism and class in the face of all of Mr. Trump's verbal assaults. Her questioning of Mr. Trump at the debate was tough but fair, and I fully support her as she continues to ask the probing and challenging questions that all presidential candidates may find difficult to answer. Donald Trump rarely apologizes, although in this case, he should. We have never been deterred by politicians or anyone else attacking us for doing our job, much less allowed ourselves to be bullied by anyone and we're certainly not going to start now. All of our journalists will continue to report in the fair and balanced way that has made FOX News Channel the number one news network in the industry."


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a journalist has her feeling hurt....


aaawwwwww gee

now, lets get back to the reality which is that Trump is doing to them what they've been doing to us

Go Donald

fuck 'em all up really badly



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While the name-calling is a little over the top, what is he doing, again? Calling the media out on bullshit. They need to be, and other than Gingrich showing a flash of it in 2012, nobody else is.
 
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Fox has the same brand of buttworm reporters as any other media outlet. You do notice how they all cozy up to their guests when their little segments are over? Nothing but theater and drama. I no longer have much respect for them at all. I hope Mr Trump smashes every one of the buttworms.

I've noticed that educated people can often disagree without being disagreeable. There may be some forced sincerity in some interactions, but many of the politicians are charming, very social, interesting people with superb manners. In that league, one rarely gets far by being an asshole.

the problem remains, they're merely passive aggressive assholes who, most importantly, aren't really accomplishing much of substance... lots of busy work, back slapping, and the favors dance, but little real work, much less real work of the sort that Americans both want *and* need.

polite and charismatic mean little without results, and most of our government is sorely lacking real results no matter which group occupies which position of power. the so called ruling class dashing smiles and charisma and all, are more interested in ruling than serving...

...and we need them in service mode, which is surely a rude awakening for most of them...


I was addressing his complaint about the relationship between reporters and interview subjects and why they seem so cozy sometimes.

Nothing more remains on that question.

The reason you don't see the results you claim to want is that getting things done requires a consensus spread among a number of power centers, depending on the issue. That's why we got rid of all that King business.

I wonder if we aren't heading towards "good government, and you ain't gonna like it!" territory.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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"...Megyn Kelly represents the very best of American journalism..."
If this is true, it is a very sad statement indeed, because it means essentially that journalism no longer exists in a recognizable form.
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"...We have never been deterred by politicians or anyone else attacking us for doing our job, much less allowed ourselves to be bullied by anyone and we're certainly not going to start now. All of our journalists will continue to report in the fair and balanced way that has made FOX News Channel the number one news network in the industry."
The press wields great power in this country, Mr. Ailes, and with that power comes a great responsibility, and you and your colleagues long ago abdicated that responsibility, and it is you who should be apologizing- not to Donald Trump, but to the American people.
 
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I watched the video w Trump and Ramos. awesome

Univision and Fusion anchor Jorge Ramos was escorted out of a press conference held by GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump in Dubuque, Iowa on Tuesday.


Kind of symbolic of Trump's illegal immigration policy. A Mexican guy breaks the rules of the game, gets in front of one who follows the rules, claims he has the right. Trump then "deports" the offender out of the game.

I guess Trump means it Wink.



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no, that's not really it (Jallen). I have no such illusions of impossible expediency, or impossible alliances, and I'm not looking at only the last 12mos/etc, some of these folks have been Congress critters for decades. such mediocre performance and excessive bullshit have gone on so long they've become acceptable, too acceptable, and so much so as to be confused with how it should be, confused with OK or good enough (much less something to be proud of). and its not (OK).

even when their presentation is devoid of the impolite and such, even when "how politics really work" is operating at its peak (has it ever, in our lifetimes?), many of their choices and behaviors give away their true assholeishness and propensity to confuse bullshit with work/service.

only an asshole would vote themselves a raise with other peoples money, only an asshole would exempt themselves from insider trading laws, only an asshole would exempt themselves from the same piece of shit healthcare mess they didn't even read but foisted onto us, as only assholes operate in the "don't do what I do, do what I say" mode (much less: then smile and bullshit us when cameras are rolling), and a thousand other examples which make it clear that service and the country's best interests are not the highest priorities in these men and women's minds - not by a country mile. we need a course correction, and not 180*, but analogous to maybe 30*...

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Megyn Kelly represents the very best of American journalism

cute, but far from accurate.
 
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I think 46and2 has it nailed. I also agree with deepocean's conclusion that couth or not, it's easy to see a leader in this man


It's easy to see a man in this man.

I'm not talking about the arrogance or the rudeness, which are not essential-- I'm talking about the assertiveness. A reporter is rude. He's Hispanic. Instead of acting like some PC wuss--because after all, the reporter is Hispanic-- Trump acts like a man. Tells him he is out of order, and to sit down.

We are astonished by manliness when we see it on the public stage. Mittens would have wrung his hands and apologized... for something. As would Jeb, in Spanish.

Whatever becomes of Trump-- and I'm rooting for him all the way-- I think we are seeing a sea change in American life. Slowly, slowly, the elites in the media, the pundits, the politicians, will catch on. Eventually.


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Suppose that relighting the FOX/Kelly issue has a purpose. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Trump has warned the media that he does not need them, they need him.

If he does well in the second debate (strictly in terms of his poll numbers going up after the debate) he may skip the final FOX debate, blame them for it, hold at the same time a live web-based Q&A or commentary on the debate itself. If that happens... gee I wonder which one the public would "tune" in to?

Trump may still implode; though it seems unlikely at the moment.

Mark Cuban stated that Donald Trump is a killer who does not respect weakness. We are witnessing this in all its glory every day.

Silent
 
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people are bored with the status quo, though also angry with it, and have been for ages, and yet - voter turnout is embarrassingly low, and the number of folks who both participate and are informed and are not GDCs is alarmingly low, and one of many undesirable and often unacceptable net results is that being elected/reelected is being confused with actual agreement or actual respect or actual evidence of having done an even basically satisfactory job - when in fact the opposite is true, too many see it for the nearly pointless act its become, and those who are elected/reelected don't, and won't, change unless pried from their thrones, shaken up enough to wake up, and pointed in the right direction or sent home - with a swift kick in the ass to make the point. Trump, for the moment, is helping make such frustrations clear.

change is difficult, and scary for many, and it's easy to see how the status quo in D.C. and the associated bureaucracies perpetuate as is - bloated and inefficient and full of excessive bullshit, because too many folks are sadly convinced things will never change, or their voice doesn't matter, or they're too busy with junior's soccer practice, or too wooed by the facade of civility and importance in their representative's too polite faces and so on. Trump has awakened such largely dormant frustrations in many, and that is a wonderful and extraordinary thing.

one can only hope it doesn't go out with a whimper, much like the almost-great Tea Party momentum which now seems to have basically been wasted and amounted to nothing much, and in many cases precisely because those who are the rulers didn't like how it shook things up.

I am 40 million miles beyond giving a single shit what just about every politician and pundit thinks about most things most of the time. they have had my entire lifetime to do good and meaningful work, and have largely failed in that endeavor (if they were actually even trying).
 
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As to Mr. Trump's knack for knowing the right thing to do, I channel surfed by a game show that was a guest on a few years ago. It was called (fittingly) "Deal or No Deal". He was the guest "banker" who cut deals w/ contestants while they tried to pick a briefcase full of cash from several to chose from.....

A single mom won $96,000 and gambled it away ending with nothing. Trump actually told her "$96.000 is a lot of money." hinting that she should keep it & walk away.

After the show, he quietly put $25,000 in a trust fund for her son's education that the mom couldn't touch.End of story.....

Personality wise,Trump does remind of a Democrat. Harry S.Truman! He loved our country and knew how to lead the nation. You didn't have to agree w/ him all of the time. But, you were never in the dark about where he stood.

One of my favorite Truman stories centers around a press conference in which a reporter asked "Mr. President, what do you think about the state department's position on......" Truman cut him off saying " The state department does not get to have a position unless I tell them what it is." That ended that.
 
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Ramos was let back in to ask his questions..

Trump, speaking to Ramos about deporting illegal gang members:

"They're getting out. You mind if i send them out? Now, if they come from Mexico, do you mind if I send them back to Mexico. No, no, do you mind if I send them back to Mexico? Okay. Those people are out. They'll be out so fast your head will spin."

Silent
 
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Suppose that relighting the FOX/Kelly issue has a purpose. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Trump has warned the media that he does not need them, they need him.


I have no doubt the tweet targeting Kelly today was intended to yet again make Trump the headline. He's intentionally stealing the spotlight almost daily. The top stories tonight were: 1. Trump shutting down Ramos at the press conference, and 2. Trump's shots at Kelly via twitter.

Ironically he upstaged himself this time.

He does need the media, but he knows they crave him, for the big boost in ratings/page hits he generates. The cable "news" channels gladly spend the first 15-30 minutes of their evening shows covering what Trump said that day, and how the other candidates reacted to what he said.

He knows exactly what he's doing. Some find it petty and un-presidential, but rest assured it's calculated.
 
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We are astonished by manliness when we see it on the public stage.


Amen. We live in such a hyper-sensitive world of PC girly-men that people piss down their leg when a man speaks his mind. It confuses the weak willed and flaccid among us.

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I am 40 million miles beyond giving a single shit what just about every politician and pundit thinks about most things most of the time. they have had my entire lifetime to do good and meaningful work, and have largely failed in that endeavor (if they were actually even trying).


Another Amen. Rarely has such a large and diverse group assembled for so many years and so roundly failed every single aspect of their simple duty. To the point they can't even agree on a budget.

Trump may not be the best answer. But he's miles ahead of where we are now; and he steers the conversation down darkened alley-ways where the others are piss-scared to go.
 
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Ramos was let back in to ask his questions..

Trump, speaking to Ramos about deporting illegal gang members:

"They're getting out. You mind if i send them out? Now, if they come from Mexico, do you mind if I send them back to Mexico. No, no, do you mind if I send them back to Mexico? Okay. Those people are out. They'll be out so fast your head will spin."

Silent


I would absolutely love to see video of that. That's the two part follow-up answer to the Bernie Sanders crowd about their weak sack of fluff and his being silenced by two "protesters." This is how you handle a heckler, progressives. This is how we want to see a President handle those who would simply shout over him.


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Rarely has such a large and diverse group assembled for so many years and so roundly failed every single aspect of their simple duty. To the point they can't even agree on a budget.

truly, and sadly.

If we were to do a comprehensive and objective analysis of the effectiveness and utility and general "goodness" of all key federal employees and elected or appointed folks, over the last 50yrs for instance, the proportion of useful, right minded, honest, and actually-good-for-America work that has been done by all three branches would have a resulting score (if you will) that would be astonishingly low.

what *wouldn't* happen as a result of said analysis and discussion is some mass "oh, I see, their work is so hard, now I get it, no wonder nothing ever happens, those poor and under appreciated civil servants, woe is them..., poor guys and gals, they're just terribly misunderstood.".

no, they'd more likely be run out of town with pitchforks (figuratively, at least).

that such data isn't at the fingertips and on the tips of the tongues of every American, in addition to the charm and glitz the rulers do grace us with when we're lucky, such things are, in a large way, I think, the only reason an armed rebellion or some other terrible outcome hasn't happened multiple times in the past.

they, said rulers and their minions, continue to exist in their same flawed ways because, I think, folks are too distracted, too confused, too ignorant (both of the benign / just don't know better and the willful sort), and things are too complex (or appear such), and life moves too fast (or appears to, to your average voter), that the whole shebang has continued to shift more and more toward a self serving farce (ala Idiocracy and The Distinguished Gentleman) than a place where truly honorable men and women do good work, for America, for their constituents, and a distant last - for themselves.

NASA is (used to be) awesome and useful, interstate freeways are great, as are National Parks, and a standing all volunteer military. helping bring down the Berlin wall was awesome, maintaining a force projection presence in various places worldwide is good and useful, but what else of the useful and honorable variety do the motherfuckers (all of them) do, really?

what good *have* our elected and appointed rulers done in the last, say, 50yrs? and do we even have a loose sense of what proportion of their time and efforts these mystery things equate to?

how on Earth can anyone outside these rulers and those who benefit from the status quo justify or even tolerate the continued perpetuation of more of the same? presentation (such as Trump's) aside...
 
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Trump/Cruz The 16 year plan.

Can you feel it?

The winds, they are a changing.


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Ann Coulter introduced Trump in the Iowa rally today. She got in a few good lines, and I don't think she is crying about Megyn Kelly Wink.



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Jorge Ramos of Univision tries to bully Trump with a question without being recognized.
How should I put this?

No matter what happens and who ends up being president, it's fantastically liberating to see the president of Mexico actually respond to the proposition of a wall on our southern border. It's fantastically liberating to hear the frantic desperation of "Mr. Trump, you cannot deport 11 million people!!"

No matter what happens. No matter what happens. They're actually concerned.

It's like being able to breathe again.




You could not have said it any better! Whatever happens to Trump, I'm grateful at this glimpse of what it can be like outside of the political twilight zone that we have been mired in for at least 8 years. Maybe there's a real world out there after all. A real world with real solutions.
 
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My wife and I drove to Dubuque,Iowa on Tuesday to see and hear Trump.
It was well worth the drive.

We met Ann Coulter in the lobby and found her very different than I had envisioned her. She was very personable and laid back. She really seemed to be comfortable with her connection to Trump.

The crowd( my best guess 4000+)was very enthusiastic,a good mix of ALL age groups,A few blacks,99% white, ALL were VOTERS!

Trumps speech was pretty much the same as we have all heard for the last few weeks.
Trump LOVES to remind everybody that he is EXTREMELY RICH, EXTREMELY SMART, EXTREMELY GOOD AT BUSINESS, and the politicians in Washington are EXTREMELY STUPID!
Mr. Trump is right!
His ego is hard to deal with until he reminds the audience that if things don't get turned around at the next election he fears that the damage to our nation will be too much to recover from. I agree.
I also then realize that the leader of the most powerful, and greatest nation that has ever existed MUST be up for the part!
The President of the United States of America should be just like Trump!
After witnessing him in action I was impressed!
He commands and owns the room when he enters and holds it till he's gone!
He is personable,He did not rush to leave, he spent plenty of time to talk to people on his way out, but his presence is of somebody that has 10 billion dollars+, and demands to have things his way and gets it!
I would NOT want to be the messenger of bad news to him.

His security team was NO NONSENSE! Exactly as you expect.7+ guards all with body armor under there shirts and sports coats. They circled the stage and scanned the crowd without distraction the entire time.VERY professional!

The rally was held in a private hall and there were no signs posted or announcements about concealed carry. There was no inspections or metal detectors present.Trump allowed anybody to come up to him to talk or shake hands.
My Wife expressed the same fears PARA brought up about his safety. I too now have concerns for his safety.
Go see him, a VERY impressive man!
 
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