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For those who are, insane as this sounds, on the fence in regards to Trump, here is the official 2016 Democratic Party Platform released a few days ago. Just reading the table of contents is sickening enough.


Pay special attention to "Voting Rights."

"Voting Rights The Democratic Party was founded on the promise of an expanded democracy. The right to vote is at the heart of our national vision. It is a core principle of the Democratic Party to maximize voter participation for all Americans. Our democracy suffers when nearly two thirds of our citizens do not or cannot participate, as in the last midterm elections. Democrats believe we must make it easier to vote not harder. We must restore the full protections of the Voting Rights Act. We will bring our democracy into the 21st century by expanding early voting and vote-by-mail, implementing universal automatic voter registration, same day voting, ending partisan and racial gerrymandering, and making Election Day a national holiday. We will restore voting rights for those who have served their sentences. And we will continue to fight against discriminatory voter identification laws, which disproportionately burden young voters, diverse communities, people of color, low-income families, people with disabilities, the elderly, and women.
Republicans have enacted various voter suppression tactics from Ohio to Florida, and while some Federal Courts have found that these measures go too far, Democrats will continue to fight these laws to preserve the fundamental right to vote. As Democrats, we support efforts to defeat ill-motivated voter suppression tactics. We support Ohio’s proposed Voters Bill of Rights amendment, North Carolina’s Moral Monday movement, and similar initiatives to permanently safeguard this inalienable right"


This will once again be a key tool for stealing the election from legitimate voters.

Watch for a big push to allow illegal invaders to vote. And couple that with the efforts of the progressives to use our own DHS against us by facilitating the successful invasion and resettling of non citizens here.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...ion_in_Florida,_2000

Remember, the Florida Presidential vote in 2000 was won by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, and the progs took it to recount several times.

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court.
Five hundred, thirty-seven votes.

We've had 684,000 illegals settled in Florida 2000-2012.


http://immigration.procon.org/...urceID=000845#states


Think your vote will "count" if the progs make their 'Voting Rights' work?

How does your state figure in?




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In 2008, Al Franken won the Senate seat in Minnesota by 312 votes.

There is a case pending to the Minnesota Supreme Court that claims 941 ineligible felons voted in 2008.

http://www.americanthinker.com...erican_politics.html
 
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Whats the forums opinion on Iowa Senator Joni Ernst? Seems like a good candidte for VP, jr senator and US Army officer vet.



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I think she has a good resume. I would like to hear her speak more in public, just to see how she handles herself in varying situations.

And yesterday I donated to the Trump campaign. Not a lot, but some. I plan on donating more in the following months up until the election as funds allow.
 
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Whats the forums opinion on Iowa Senator Joni Ernst? Seems like a good candidte for VP, jr senator and US Army officer vet.
My opinion is that Sarah Palin didn't help John McCain.


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I think she has a good resume. I would like to hear her speak more in public, just to see how she handles herself in varying situations.

Yup. She might look good, with an impeccable resume, but will she able to handle the national spotlight, the intense political scrutiny / bombardment? Just look at dear-in-the-headlight Rick Perry.


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Ernst and Corker both removed themselves today from consideration. It's looking like it's going to be Pence.
 
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Whats the forums opinion on Iowa Senator Joni Ernst? Seems like a good candidte for VP, jr senator and US Army officer vet.

She dropped out today.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ed.html?intcmp=hpbt2

Ernst, who spent part of her July 4th holiday with Trump, told Fox News they had a “good conversation” and said she would “continue to share my insights with Donald about the need to strengthen our economy, keep our nation safe, and ensure America is always a strong, stabilizing force around the globe."

However, in an interview with Politico on Wednesday, she said her main focus would be Iowa and the Senate.

“I feel that I have a lot more to do in the United States Senate. And Iowa is where my heart is,” Ernst said. “I’m just getting started here. I have a great partner with Chuck Grassley, we’ve been able to accomplish a lot. And I think that President Trump will need some great assistance in the United States Senate and I can provide that.”



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Whats the forums opinion on Iowa Senator Joni Ernst? Seems like a good candidte for VP, jr senator and US Army officer vet.


If she's going to get the women's vote then sign her up. Otherwise delivering Iowa isn't a big deal.


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Whats the forums opinion on Iowa Senator Joni Ernst? Seems like a good candidte for VP, jr senator and US Army officer vet.


She seems legit, but honestly, I'd rather see two strong men on the ticket.


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I had CNN on in the background earlier when a tidbit caught my attention.

Clinton is ahead in their poll by a couple of points, within the margi of error. Clinton has spend 49 million so far in radio and TV spots. Trump has spent 975k.

CNN thinks this is a success on Clinton's part.
 
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The veep candidate must be appealing to the "undecideds". Those are the voters Trump needs to win the election. Period.


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The veep candidate must be appealing to the "undecideds". Those are the voters Trump needs to win the election. Period.
Well, Bernie Sanders may be available.
 
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The veep candidate must be appealing to the "undecideds". Those are the voters Trump needs to win the election. Period.
Well, Bernie Sanders may be available.

If Bernie went rogue and ran as an independent and I was Trump I would send him a big donation.


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We gonna ride this bitch into November.

err, the thread, that is.
 
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We are gonna ride this thread to Victory Smile

 
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We gonna ride this bitch into November.

err, the thread, that is.

Hell to the yea!


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GOPe still wants to get rid of Trump.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/an...hin-reach-1467839099

Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
Backing of 28 Rules Committee members would allow a full vote on unbinding delegates

By REID J. EPSTEIN
Updated July 6, 2016 10:30 p.m. ET
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Months after Donald Trump appeared to seal the Republican nomination for president, anti-Trump forces are making one last push to force a vote on the party’s convention floor that would throw open the GOP contest again.

It’s a long shot, but by some counts they are remarkably close to getting past the first hurdle next week in Cleveland.

Mr. Trump’s intraparty foes, led by a group of rogue delegates, are waging an intense behind-the-scenes effort to push the Republican National Convention’s Rules Committee for a vote on freeing delegates to back whomever they wish, rather than being bound to Mr. Trump.

The presumptive nominee’s team is fighting back just as vehemently, with an organized campaign of dozens of aides and volunteers. It’s a power struggle that has prompted threats of reprisals and left many Republicans anxious that it could hurt the party’s prospects in November.

The anti-Trump camp needs the backing of 28, or one-quarter, of 112 Convention Rules Committee members to place the issue before the full convention. A Wall Street Journal survey suggests it could be close.

In interviews, 20 members said they are willing to consider allowing delegates to be unbound, while 59 support Mr. Trump. The other 33 panelists couldn’t be reached or didn’t respond to repeated messages.

Others counting votes have their own tallies. Internal surveys of the Rules Committee conducted by RNC member Randy Evans of Georgia, who is trying to help Mr. Trump fend off the insurrection, found at least 18 committee members open to voting to unbind. The Trump campaign’s count shows about 15 leaning toward unbinding, according to people familiar with the campaign.

Kendal Unruh, a Colorado teacher on the committee leading part of the anti-Trump movement, said she has private commitments from more than 30 committee members, but that many aren’t willing to admit so publicly.

All involved in counting votes say those numbers fluctuate day-to-day. If the provision gets the necessary committee votes when the panel meets beginning next Wednesday, it would place the issue before the convention, where it would need 1,237 votes—half the delegates—to pass.

Though a majority of the convention delegates are bound to support Mr. Trump, Mr. Evans’s count shows just about 890 delegates are personally loyal to the New Yorker. Another 680 oppose Mr. Trump. That leaves 900 delegates who are presumed to be “in play,” he said. The stop-Trump forces would have to take nearly two-thirds of them to block his nomination.

A Trump campaign official described Mr. Evans’s figures as “wildly inaccurate” and said Mr. Trump would win any floor vote at the convention.

Pushing the measure to the floor would create chaos, with the party delegates fighting over a nomination long viewed as settled in full display of the international news media. With such enormous stakes, members of the committee, including Graham Hunt, an insurance salesman from Orting, Wash., are the focus of a heated behind-the-scenes lobbying effort from both camps.

“It’s intensifying,” Mr. Hunt said one recent day at 9:30 a.m. “I have 83 emails already today.” On average, he gets more than 200 emails a day from unbinding proponents along with several daily phone calls from Mr. Trump’s campaign staff.

Mr. Trump, who for nearly a year ignored the nuts and bolts of securing delegate slots, realized such a fight was brewing in March when The Wall Street Journal reported he garnered fewer delegates in Louisiana than primary rival Ted Cruz, even though Mr. Trump won more of the state’s votes. He hired longtime Republican operative Paul Manafort, who led President Gerald Ford’s whip operation in 1976.

Mr. Trump is confident he will prevail.

“It’s ridiculous. We won more votes than any other Republican, we won 38 states and now they want to try to” take it away, he said in an interview last week. “No one is even writing about it anymore.”

Yet every day last week, Mr. Hunt received a phone call, and on some days several, from a Trump campaign aide or surrogate seeking to win him over to their camp.

What would it take for the former state lawmaker to back the New York businessman, Mr. Trump’s allies ask, or at least to come out in opposition to the effort to unbind delegates?

“Verbatim, they said, ‘Let me ask you, what would make Donald Trump a better candidate in your opinion? We want to know because we’re going to send this up to the campaign,’ ” said Mr. Hunt, who led Mr. Cruz’s campaign in Washington state.

He remains offended at Mr. Trump’s July 2015 assertion that Sen. John McCain is “not a war hero” because he was captured during the Vietnam War, Mr. Hunt tells them. He also offered suggestions about specific policy proposals to help war veterans. A Trump aide told Mr. Hunt they would seek to add his suggestions to the party’s official platform.

“Actions will be sufficient and we’re not there yet,” Mr. Hunt said.

Some delegates report receiving veiled threats. One said a Trump surrogate called to say she was being monitored closely, a message she viewed as an attempt at intimidation.

Mike Stuart, Mr. Trump’s state co-chairman from West Virginia who is a member of the Rules Committee, said he would ask the panel to issue a formal reprimand of anti-Trump Republicans such as Mrs. Unruh and Mitt Romney, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee who has been a strident voice against Mr. Trump.

“I would support consideration of sanctions against established Republicans who work to undermine our nominee,” Mr. Stuart said.

An aide to the 2012 GOP nominee declined to comment for this article. He hasn’t said if he believes delegates should be unbound.

Mrs. Unruh and many of her allies see Mr. Trump as a historically bad nominee who would doom fellow Republians. In addition, they are arguing that Mr. Trump’s team shouldn’t fear one final test of his popularity from the party’s delegates.

“If we are a party of liberty, what are we afraid of?” wrote Gina Blanchard-Reed, of Washington state, in an email to her fellow Rules Committee members. “What are we unwilling to do? Does it mean that Donald Trump would be denied the nomination? Possibly. Possibly not. He would come out of the Convention stronger if he won the nomination as a result of a FREE WILL vote.”

The Trump campaign is preparing for some nightmare scenarios if the opposition gets close to the 28 votes it needs. One fear is that Utah Sen. Mike Lee, who has been critical of Mr. Trump and is the highest-profile Rules Committee member, urges votes in favor of unbinding delegates. Mr. Lee, whose wife is also on the committee, hasn’t revealed his opinion on the binding question to Mrs. Unruh, the Trump campaign or RNC members and declined to do so in an interview.

Some establishment Republicans are pushing against the unbind movement. Wisconsin’s Steve King and Mary Buestrin, both of the RNC and Rules Committee, wrote Friday to panel committee members that those behind the unbinding effort “are asking you to disenfranchise the votes of our family members, friends and neighbors.” Mr. King is the longtime chairman of House Speaker Paul Ryan’s campaigns.

Art Wittich, a Montana state legislator on the committee, is undecided on unbinding but is troubled that the effort hasn’t presented an alternative candidate who could plausibly be nominated from the convention floor, he said.

“My question is, if you get what you want, then what?” Mr. Wittich said. “Nobody can really answer that.”

—Beth Reinhard and Julian Routh contributed to this article.

Write to Reid J. Epstein at Reid.Epstein@wsj.com
 
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I am voting for Trump, whether his name is printed on the ballot or I have to write in in myself. These people understand that but they do not care. They WANT Hillary regardless of the lies that come out of their mouths.
 
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Another WSJ article on Trump's appeal

"What has really “angered” so many more millions who now feel drawn into the Trump camp isn’t just PC itself but that its proponents show such relentless moral contempt and superiority toward everyone else. People in America can take a lot, but not that. Marx would have a field day with how progressivism’s cultural elites have reordered social classes between the right-minded and everyone else."

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"In nearly eight years of presidential speeches, Barack Obama, by explicit choice, has come to embody the holier-than-thou idea of showing secular moral contempt for those who disagree with him."
 
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