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National Review's latest commentary on Trump: LINK.

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Donald Trump Is Melting Down
March 5, 2016 4:00 AM @DAVIDAFRENCH

It looks like Donald Trump is unraveling. After months where his Republican competitors treated him with kid gloves — often afraid to tangle with him on the debate stage and foolishly spending hundreds of millions of donor dollars attacking one another — Trump is now experiencing a real presidential race. He’s learning what it’s like to be in the crosshairs in every debate, the subject of hammering attack ads, and the target of a concerted activist effort to derail his candidacy.

And he’s not handling it well. Not at all. The emotional strains are clear. What man in his right mind brags about the size of his penis during a presidential debate? Yet if that now-infamous incident had been the only sign of a crack-up in Thursday night’s debate, we could write it off as a more extreme example of Trump being Trump. But it wasn’t, not by a long shot. Under fire, he simply lost his bearings.

First, he capitulated on the alleged cornerstone of his appeal — immigration. He’d already repeated the absurd argument that he’d hired immigrants for jobs Americans wouldn’t do — a position that Ted Cruz skillfully rebutted by asking the audience for a show of hands if they were current or former waiters or waitresses. But then he clearly signaled that his entire immigration position was nothing more than a bargaining chip. “I’m changing,” he said. “I’m softening the position because we have to have talented people in this country.”

What? For the better part of a year, his diehard fans have hammered home that he was the only one on the stage serious about dealing with illegal immigration. Everyone else was soft. Everyone else was politically correct. Yet it took only about two minutes of attacks about his mysterious off-the-record interview with the New York Times to get him to crack. Yes, his campaign tried to clean up the mess, but the damage was done.

Next, the façade cracked regarding his much-vaunted love for the American fighting man. When questioned about his insistence that he would not only order terrorists tortured but he’d order American soldiers to kill their families, he doubled down on disrespect. Speaking of soldiers bound by law and honor to fight only enemy combatants and to protect prisoners from harm, he said simply, “They’re not going to refuse me. Believe me.”

With those words, Trump demonstrated his true contempt for the military. Confronted with a choice between respect for the laws and traditions that govern America’s armed forces and publicly eating even the smallest slice of humble pie, he defaulted to Mussolini mode.

To be clear, if Trump actually tried to order the military to violate the laws of war — to commit murder or assault — he would irretrievably break his relationship with the soldiers under his command. They would defy that order. They would have no choice. There is not one soldier that I served with in Iraq who would follow an order to intentionally target and kill an innocent child or an innocent mother.

Then, suddenly, well away from the bright lights of the debate stage. Trump abandoned his position. In a statement reported by the Wall Street Journal, Trump backed down completely — declaring that he would “not order a military officer to disobey the law.”

Well, that’s a relief, but what of weeks of loud posturing to the contrary? He first said he would target terrorists’ families last year. It’s been almost a month since he boasted that he’d order a “hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.” On February 15, he wrote an op-ed in USA Today that attributed America’s unwillingness to drown or behead its enemies to “political correctness.” But now it turns out that the alpha male was all bark, no bite. He swaggered his way onto the stage, slandered American soldiers, and then slunk off.

But perhaps the most vivid evidence of his crackup was his utterly unhinged, panicked response to Marco Rubio’s and Ted Cruz’s tag-team attack on his brand. He lost control when Rubio attacked Trump University, repeating lie after lie even when confronted with clear evidence of the truth, and he lapsed into his personal insults in a manner almost beyond parody.

Playground name-calling like “Little Marco” or “Lying Ted” loses its sting when the wannabe bully is so obviously backpedaling — caught in the web of his countless lies. Had he not been bailed out again and again by John Kasich’s towering vanity and self-regard, we might have seen Trump truly melt down. He was on the verge.

Running for president is undeniably difficult, and answering two challengers at once makes it more difficult still. But that’s nothing new for presidential contenders. They learn to adapt and overcome, or they fail. It’s disconcerting watching a front-runner melt down, but it’s even more disconcerting knowing that for some percentage of his followers, there is nothing he can say or do to lose their support. They’re part of his tribe now, and their tribal leader is losing his cool.

It should go without saying that Democrats now know that Trump has a glass jaw, and they will have the means to deliver a more than $2 billion punch. They will crush his “brand,” they will crush his character, and they will crush his ignorance. And he won’t be able to take it. Trump isn’t the tough guy in the race. He’s the bully who’s only just now been shoved back.

— David French is an attorney, a staff writer at National Review, and a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom.


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It looks like Donald Trump is unraveling.



Yes, yes. He has reached his peak, and will fade away shortly. Big Grin


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What man in his right mind brags about the size of his penis during a presidential debate?


Maybe that's what Trump meant, but he certainly didn't say that. Everybody is assuming that's what he meant.

I wonder what kind of man would brag about having other mens' penises in his pockets? Oh...that's right. Another US President. What about having a known nickname for one's penis? Yup. Another US President. What about showing one's penis to an intern? What kind of man? Another Presidential type. The entire penis thing is UNHEARD OF! Or not.

The rest of the article: Blah, blah, blah.


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IF Trump get's the nomination , he'll eventually fold like a cheap suit . I'm not saying that as a Trump hater because I'm not . Hillary will be the Democratic nominee and at that point the State controlled media will focus it's full weight on ruining him and the RNC will have already set the stage for it . His mouth won't help things either . It's going to be ugly .
 
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Though I am a Cruz enthusiast, I can see that Trump is likely the system shocker that is needed to damage the ruling elite.


Exactly this ^^^, Mr. DF !!! Big Grin


Like a rudely applied defibrillator set to ludicrous shock.... CLEAR!!! Big Grin

We have to get the heart beating again before beginning the restoration therapy a guy like Cruz would apply.



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Trump is a field medic armed with copious amounts of Motrin.

Cruz is the bypass surgeon, and we aren't even approved for surgery yet.

Or something.
 
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Yes, I tend to think of President Honey Badger...err Donald Trump as sort of a place holder in American government- a space in between the SSDP* and a return more to what we once were.

*Same shit, different party
 
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Wait, field medics administer Motrin rather than morphine? Never mind. Cancel my medic order...



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Well my wife and I just voted early for "Mr. T" here in South Florida so I guess we just "threw our votes away". Wink

A couple of interesting / funny things as we were walking up to the early voting place. Signs and usual gatherings of people handing out candidate materials for a couple of local district offices and one lady asks us "Democrat or Republican?" to which my wife and I both enthusiastically stated "Republican" and she says "That's ok. We like our Republicans too" with kind of a smile. My wife and I suspected that they are trying to gauge turnout by asking people as they come up. We just gave her a smile and I graciously chuckled, and kept on walking on our way to vote, wading through those distributing campaign items. There were actually a few high school kids giving out Colonel Sanders cards among the mostly district campaigners.

Early voting started today and we arrived about 12:30pm. No wait to vote, but there were others voting too. Only Presidential nomination for us to vote for in our district. When I inserted the ballot into the machine I noticed by the count at the top that between the machine I used and the one next to it there had been maybe 250 votes cast already this morning. There were about 3 or 4 other machines set up there too.

So we starting walking back to our vehicle and as we reach the same area a different person, now an older guy that looked more like he was trying to imitate Bruce Springsteen with a sleeveless shirt 80's look asks "Democrat or Republican"? And so we proudly say "Republican" again, and as we keep walking I overheard him say somewhat under his breath after we were a few steps away "Aaahhh......get outta here." My daughters were with us so I decided to hold my tongue and not to comment back letting him think we hadn't even heard him, as my wife and I just looked at each other and smirked because she knew what I was thinking. This just goes to show the level of panic and frustration Democrats have about the number of Republicans turning out to vote, even in Democratic leaning counties. That was all the real satisfaction I needed was having proudly let them know we weren't "one of them". Not saying all Democrats act this way, but they do seem to be more callous and more outwardly disapproving of people that have different opinions than they, at least in our area.


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Well my wife and I just voted early for "Mr. T" here in South Florida so I guess we just "threw our votes away". Wink



But how can that be? Rubio keeps saying that South Florida is his territory that he's going to win.

And instead of Democrat or Republican, you should have said, "I'm a Trumpican!" I'm sure he would've made sure that he heard you then...haha.


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Well my wife and I just voted early for "Mr. T" here in South Florida so I guess we just "threw our votes away". Wink



But how can that be? Rubio keeps saying that South Florida is his territory that he's going to win.

And instead of Democrat or Republican, you should have said, "I'm a Trumpican!" I'm sure he would've made sure that he heard you then...haha.


Tell you what, even at our daughters' Charter high school, our daughters are telling us that EVERYONE they talk to or overhear talking about the candidates says that their parents are voting for Trump, that they have yet to hear anyone say their family is voting for Hillary, Bernie, or any of the other Republican candidates, and it's a pretty big school with a good percentage of Hispanics. I think it is quite likely Trump will win Florida by a margin of somewhere in the neighborhood of 15%-25% from just the feedback and interactions we are having here in South Florida.


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Good. That oughta shut Rubio up.


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Romney in 2012:

Donald Trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works and create jobs for the American people. He’s done it here in Nevada. He’s done it across the country. He understands that our economy is facing threats from abroad.

Trump has created jobs due to the fact he is a multi-billionaire and has the money invested. He doesn't know the first thing about economics, though, or he wouldn't be proposing any export tariffs, which will kill jobs, as it has done countless times in the past. And he would know that the Federal Reserve has been devaluing our currency just as China has.




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Romney in 2012:

Donald Trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works and create jobs for the American people. He’s done it here in Nevada. He’s done it across the country. He understands that our economy is facing threats from abroad.

Trump has created jobs due to the fact he is a multi-billionaire and has the money invested. He doesn't know the first thing about economics, though, or he wouldn't be proposing any export tariffs, which will kill jobs, as it has done countless times in the past. And he would know that the Federal Reserve has been devaluing our currency just as China has.


Right he is a economic idiot, please share more......... Big Grin


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Understanding the real estate business and understanding the global economy aren't quite the same thing. He's quite good at the real estate business. He was raised in it. And, yes, he went to Wharton 50 years ago. That doesn't quite make him an economic genius, either.

Having said that, I don't think Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, or Rubio are economic geniuses, either.

However, there can be a much bigger problem if you think you're an expert on something and you're not than if you know you're not an expert and can listen to advisers. People who think they're geniuses at everything tend to fuck things up that are outside of their narrow area of expertise.
 
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Understanding the real estate business and understanding the global economy aren't quite the same thing. He's quite good at the real estate business. He was raised in it. And, yes, he went to Wharton 50 years ago. That doesn't quite make him an economic genius, either.

Having said that, I don't think Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, or Rubio are economic geniuses, either.

However, there can be a much bigger problem if you think you're an expert on something and you're not than if you know you're not an expert and can listen to advisers. People who think they're geniuses at everything tend to fuck things up that are outside of their narrow area of expertise.


That's why you who have not dug deep into who is behind Trump as advisors and the fact he actually does listen and change his mind don't get it.

You all think he believes he can do it all himself. Do you think his organization is run that way?

Just saying I think you are going a little goofy here attacking him on money matters compared to who he is running against.

Cruz has many great points stick to them and pound them to death.


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Cruz won Kansas and the Rep enthusiasm continues.

Almost every precinct in Kansas GOP Caucus ran out of ballots (CNN)

Kansas
Cruz 48% 17 delegates
Trump 23% 6 delegates
Rubio 17%
 
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Cruz won Kansas and the Rep enthusiasm continues.

Almost every precinct in Kansas GOP Caucus ran out of ballots (CNN)


Awesome, let's hope the Dems all keep staying home feeling dirty with whom they have to choose from!


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Tonight's results are just starting to come it, but just going by Maine it looks like voters are turning this into a two man race. Again, the numbers are early and it's only a few states, but it looks like people are leaving Rubio and going to Cruz. He won't get the message, but the message is go home.
 
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Wait, field medics administer Motrin rather than morphine? Never mind. Cancel my medic order...

When I was in the ARMY a running joke was that everything, every ailment, every ache or pain, it didn't matter... the best/strongest anything they'd give you was a couple of 600mg Motrin.
 
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Voted for the anti-Christ today.

Tough decision, it was between Stanley Schicklgruber and him. I stood there trying to decide but when I noticed the oblong circle I thought that it looked like a football and then it hit me---he would press the button and start the apocalypse if someone mocked the way he parts his hair. I like cold, detached, calculating folks like that.

Also, Stanley "Flower Child" Schicklgruber didn't quite had the same ring to it.


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