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Fire begets Fire
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What don’t y’all get yet?

Target retail stores been using license plate scanners (parking lot) since the early 2000s forward. They were looking for “terrorists”… Wink Lol





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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Well, I decided to try out what you guys are saying and so I pulled out my cell phone around once an hour yesterday and mentioned that I needed cat food and toilet paper (don't actually need either one and don't have a cat). Tried it with the lock screen, while using various apps and while looking through my phone contacts.

Nothing showed up on the cell phone or my home computer offering me either one.

So I thought about it and checked my Settings>Privacy>Microphone and it turns out I only have the microphone enabled for Google Maps and Waze and a decibel meter.

Maybe that explains it
 
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Well, I decided to try out what you guys are saying and so I pulled out my cell phone around once an hour yesterday and mentioned that I needed cat food and toilet paper (don't actually need either one and don't have a cat). Tried it with the lock screen, while using various apps and while looking through my phone contacts.

Nothing showed up on the cell phone or my home computer offering me either one.

So I thought about it and checked my Settings>Privacy>Microphone and it turns out I only have the microphone enabled for Google Maps and Waze and a decibel meter.

Maybe that explains it


Go onto YouTube and see what videos pop up for you.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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Go onto YouTube and see what videos pop up for you.


Okay, I did. Here's the top ones, many more below them, but nothing about cat food or toilet paper.

stabbed deputy body cam
outdoor show n tell
alicia schmidt-beautiful woman 400m runner
club and knife fighting WWII marine corps basic training
otter reaction to popcorn maker
captain kirk meets joe biden
 
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Android or iPhone?





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Android or iPhone?


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iPhones are better than android in this regard.

Android‘s business model is the grab data where iPhone sells “privacy“.

Interesting exercise… Thank you for sharing.

I use an iPhone and often the most unusual topic mentioned one day will show up on YouTube the next. Super coincident/coinkidink.

I may have a copy of WhatsApp on my phone which I never use… Would be highly suspicious/#1 suspect.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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iPhones are better than android in this regard.

Android‘s business model is the grab data where iPhone sells “privacy“.

Interesting exercise… Thank you for sharing.

I use an iPhone and often the most unusual topic mentioned one day will show up on YouTube the next. Super coincident/coinkidink.

I may have a copy of WhatsApp on my phone which I never use… Would be highly suspicious/#1 suspect.


You might want to check and see if you inadvertently gave it microphone privileges.
 
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Now i am seriously concerned.

Cleaning lady told my wife there’s bat shit in my sister’s apartment. The building does have a bat problem.

We have never, ever, considered or talked about this before. It is news to us.

Wife reports getting bat repellent advertising out of the blue.

It cant be a coincidence. No way.

Another good reason to dislike my iPhone.

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Now i am seriously concerned.

Cleaning lady told my wife there’s bat shit in my sister’s apartment. The building does have a bat problem.

We have never, ever, considered or talked about this before. It is news to us.

Wife reports getting bat repellent advertising out of the blue.

It cant be a coincidence. No way.

Another good reason to dislike my iPhone.

0-0


Android is 10 times worse… It’s their business model.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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Apple has this unwarranted aura of caring about privacy. They give a lot of lip service, then bury whatever controls they give you where people can't find them, and have zero qualms about wrapping Big Brother into actually useful features.

Case in point, you can't disable the Borg-feature of automatically connecting to nearby iStuff and sharing location and other info with the Cupertino Mother Ship unless you don't want to be able to use 'find my phone'. Not sure which circle of Hell Dante would place the geniuses who did that. I'd argue the central circle of Treachery, for getting people to think they're safe just by buying an iProduct then sticking this kind of stuff in the background, but a gentler soul might stick them in with "Greed" and just forgive their attempts to obfuscate what they're doing.

Android (and Apple) love to sell personal information they've gathered. That said, so does everyone else who gathers it.

Register to vote? You'll get junk mail from candidates/parties. Donate to a non-profit or to a candidate? You'll hear from other organizations and candidates. (Doubt me on this? Don't. Code your address with a different throwaway 'box number' for each. See when/how/who else winds up sending you junk mail with that coded box number.)

You can slow this down, if you care and if you are paying attention. But they play the game pretty subtly as there's big bucks in it, and the game never ends.
 
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It’s not just the phone hardware/software providers.

The telephone companies like Verizon, AT&T & T-Mobile all have data strategies. I know because that’s what my son does. Trying to get him to take a different job.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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Now i am seriously concerned.

Cleaning lady told my wife there’s bat shit in my sister’s apartment. The building does have a bat problem.

We have never, ever, considered or talked about this before. It is news to us.

Wife reports getting bat repellent advertising out of the blue.

It cant be a coincidence. No way.

Another good reason to dislike my iPhone.

0-0


Android is 10 times worse… It’s their business model.


My previous phone of many yearsx was an Android until a year ago and never noticed anything nowhere similar to this. Never.

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Perhaps not… Perhaps your experience is unique… But have an a family member who’s in the telephone data business,… I’m informed otherwise.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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Just tried several different things on my Pixel 6, mostly set to default for everything. Haven't noticed anything yet, whether on youtube or facebook or any other apps and chrome pages.
 
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Wanna read something really creepy? Last summer I'm out in the desert with a retired NYC cop and a retired UHP sergeant (I think that was his rank). We are shooting at 900+ yard gongs. Can't really hear my phone so I turned it off. I mean off, off. Not just asleep. I put it into an empty ammo box and set it in the shade in the cab of my truck with the window down. We commence shooting.

About 20 mins into our day long session, I hear a weird tone coming from my truck. It sounded like a screeching alert type noise. Like an alarm. It was loud enough that we all stopped and turned toward my truck. I walked over and the sound was coming from inside the ammo box. I pulled it open, slipped my phone out and there was a 911 screen up. I put it to my ear and an operator was on the other line. She asked me questions about my location and the gun fire. She was going to send the sheriff out to check on us. I told her who was in our group and we talked her off the ledge.

That was so creepy that we all looked at each other with the WTF expression.


I'm curious. Was the ammo box metal? Was it closed or was the lid open?


Cardboard sleeve that 308 ammo comes in. My phone was slipped inside and the end closed. Phone was totally off.



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The product is the meat popsicle.
All other things are props.




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I'll say it again, and again many will ignore the simple fact. It's not the phones, it's the apps. And more specifically, it's the permissions granted to them. Disable those, and the problem goes away. Better yet, delete the 200 free apps that people download for literally every fucking thing. Those developers have monetized taking info from you and selling it to others, and they give you pizza coupons, or weather forecasts, or stupid games.

Apple is your friend in this regard. They make money the old fashioned way. They sell you a product, and you pay for it. Do they allow apps to monetize your data (if you download the app and grant it the necessary permissions, and ignore their privacy policy)? Sure! But then again, if this is happening to you, then so did you.




 
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Last night Mrs df and were talking about our trip to Paradise Island, Bahamas several years ago. This morning Mrs df’s iPhone had Bahamas ads on it.



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I'll say it again, and again many will ignore the simple fact. It's not the phones, it's the apps. And more specifically, it's the permissions granted to them. Disable those, and the problem goes away. Better yet, delete the 200 free apps that people download for literally every fucking thing. Those developers have monetized taking info from you and selling it to others, and they give you pizza coupons, or weather forecasts, or stupid games.



Apple has given Developers ways to bypass security features because they "TRUST" them to do the right thing.
Sounds interesting don't ya think? It wasn't US that did it. It was those sneaky developers from Instagram and TicTok that didn't do the right thing or follow our guidelines.

You would think having millions of people have their screens recorded, cameras, contacts , photos etc. accessed without their permission by a Chinese company would be a HUGE National Security risk. Does anyone here believe our FBI and NSA are so incompetent, this could go on for months, weeks, years?


Apple has done a good job convincing people on the security of their devices. Like the much publicized MAIN STREAM MEDIA version of how they refused to unlock a terrorist's iPhone.
Reminds me of the encryption software that was promoted by news stations all over the country years back.
No telling how many of those users found out the hard way that it was written by the U.S. Government. Wink



Warning—Apple Suddenly Catches TikTok Secretly Spying On Millions Of iPhone Users
https://www.forbes.com/sites/z...ers/?sh=156618e534ef

iPhone warning: Is this app using your camera without permission?
https://www.komando.com/securi...t-permission/747400/

Instagram accused of spying users by accessing their smartphone cameras without consent
https://usaherald.com/instagra...ras-without-consent/

Many popular iPhone apps secretly record your screen without asking
https://techcrunch.com/2019/02...ng%20data%20on%20you

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Apple is your friend in this regard. They make money the old fashioned way. They sell you a product, and you pay for it. Do they allow apps to monetize your data (if you download the app and grant it the necessary permissions, and ignore their privacy policy)? Sure! But then again, if this is happening to you, then so did you.


I'm selling the Brooklyn Bridge next week for a great price in case you're interested.


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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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