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Raptorman
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Tabitha asked me what my dream car was while we were driving and I told her a vintage Land Rover Defender.

No sooner do I get that out of my mouth, an ad appears on my phone in my browsing for hand restored Defenders.

Yes, this shit listens to you.

Now all I talk about is midget rodeo clown MILF porn.


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Posts: 34134 | Location: North, GA | Registered: October 09, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by tatortodd:
The other possibility is that:
  • your buddy started Googling Sunoto watches after your meet-up, and the algorithms have tied you to your buddy
  • your FIL has been Googling powered augers, and the algorithms have tied you to your FIL

    I had something similar happen with my Dad. He installed leaf guards on his gutters and we spoke about it on the phone. The next day I received an e-mail from the exact brand Dad had installed and no other brands. I never once Googled leaf guards as my trees aren't tall enough to put leaves in the gutter, but prior to buying the leaf guards Dad Googled a bunch of options. Yes, it could be the iPhone listening to me, but more likely my Dad and I have been associated since we've both had same e-mails and phone numbers for over a decade.


  • These are the likely explanations.




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    Posts: 53122 | Location: Texas | Registered: February 10, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
    Little ray
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:

    Now all I talk about is midget rodeo clown MILF porn.


    Got a link?




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    Posts: 53122 | Location: Texas | Registered: February 10, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Posts: 38713 | Location: SC Lowcountry/Cape Cod | Registered: November 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
    Oh stewardess,
    I speak jive.
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    coincidence

    cute.
     
    Posts: 25613 | Registered: March 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Naïveté to think it’s coincidental.

    It’s most definitely not.

    Most folks get this already, accepting some of the risks (not sure we fully understand all the risks).

    At least Apple tries to sell security as part of their product. Whereas Google/android are happy to give away shit for free and let you trade all your personal information/data for recompense.





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    .

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    ^^^Pretty sure that's frowned upon at this establishment... Wink


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    Posts: 8949 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: October 29, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Black92LX:
    quote:
    Originally posted by pbslinger:
    Is this an opportunity to brag about your new Suunto watch and Ryobi post hole digger?


    Unfortunately not. I am going to run this watch into the ground I have decided.

    I was so very close to buying a auger but this garden project is a project with my boys. They do a little and I mean very little of the digging but they are all under 8 so they are doing just fine.
    But I am really trying to teach them not to take the easy way out and to spend money wisely.
    Spending $350 on an Auger that uses a new battery system that I likely won’t use for years to come when I can do the labor myself.


    I was just joking that their ploy and advertising was effective and they got you.
     
    Posts: 7471 | Location: Over the hills and far away | Registered: January 20, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    We get pop up ads per our discussions all the time. I will have to re-read this thread. I'm not clear how they got his email address. That's never happened to me (hope I didn't just jinx myself).


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    Nullus Anxietas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by redstone:
    Here is a good article that discusses it. FWIW, it is NOT a gunforum. Wink

    Does your phone listen to you for ads?
    Yeah, and look at the bottom-line:
    quote:

    So, Why Do You Get Ads for Things You Talk About?

    Well, we know that Google does record you, just as we know that Amazon does, via the Amazon Echo. But is the information is used for commercial purposes?

    Probably not. Enhancements in mobile device privacy seem to have put an end to this sort of privacy breach. If you're using a recent mobile operating system, it's unlikely that you'll be affected by this.
    Believe what you like.



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    Posts: 26009 | Location: S.E. Michigan | Registered: January 06, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
    Shall Not Be Infringed
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    Lot's of people believed in facebook...Until the didn't!

    My previous post re: my wife receiving ads for piano music/lessons, etc seemingly out of the blue, and later linked to a conversation she was not even party to, took place with her Apple iPhone merely present in a small lunch room. It happened...Period.

    Terms of Service are only worth the paper they're written on, and only on the day they're released as far as I'm concerned at this point!

    Remember when Apple released the iOS update, part of which was to provide the framework for COVID Tracking (Contract Tracing & potentially Vaccine Passports at some point), and there were those that said, 'It's just an API'... Roll Eyes


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    After visiting with my 84 year old father, he'll routinely talk about some of his maladies, blood pressure, blood sugar, other health issues.

    I get home and open up fakebook, bam, the news feed is full of offers for medications regarding these issues.

    Not sure if it's the Apple Watch, iPhone, his iPhone, Alexa, but somethings listening in, or, as was said, we're connected by emails, however, the question then is, how or why those advertisements started right after the visit, some kind of proximity based on GPS or BT along with the microphone possibly.
     
    Posts: 23563 | Location: Florida | Registered: November 07, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    I don't think it's coincidence.

    And I think we're wrong to think cows are dumb. Cows don't pay their own money to willingly be tracked to maximize their own milking.



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    Posts: 19697 | Location: The Free State of Arizona - Ditat Deus | Registered: March 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Interesting timing on this article about Apple and Privacy released today..

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    Apple's Tim Cook Says the Fight to Protect Privacy Is a Crucial One

    Apple's CEO also pushes back against charges that its app store controls are anti-competitive.

    Calling it "one of the most essential battles of our time," Apple CEO Tim Cook said Tuesday that his company will continue to fight for data privacy protections that are in the best interests of consumers.

    Cook also pushed back against charges that his company's tight controls over its app store are anti-competitive. While Apple maintains that the controls protect consumer security and privacy, the store is the only official way to download apps to iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs and Apple Watches.

    Speaking at the International Association of Privacy Professionals' Global Privacy Summit, Cook said privacy continues to be threatened by the "data industrial complex," which seeks to collect information about everything from the restaurants where people eat and the stores where they shop to the websites they browse.

    While those companies say they're collecting that data in order to provide consumers with a more custom experience, they usually don't give consumers a choice about it, Cook noted.

    "Who would stand for such a thing if it were unfolding in a physical world?" he asked, noting that few people would actually agree to have someone with a camera follow them as they took their child to school, or watch them as they worked on their laptop.

    "You wouldn't call that a service, you'd call that an emergency," he said. "In the digital world it is one too."

    Cook pointed to several features designed to protect data privacy that Apple has introduced in recent years, noting that users can now decide for themselves if their apps should be able to track their activity across their devices, as well as take steps to mask their location and shield their email addresses if they desire.

    He also pointed to Apple's efforts to minimize the data it collects and maximize the amount of processing that's done on device, rather than in the cloud, reducing the risk that consumer data could be stolen by cybercriminals.

    While Cook said the company remains in favor of strong privacy regulations like the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR, and continues to call for such a law in the US, he said new regulations being debated in this country could put security and privacy at risk.

    There's been fierce debate both in the public and within the tech industry about how much power tech giants should wield over their respective app stores and platforms.

    Lawmakers, regulators and developers have argued that Apple, in particular, should loosen its restrictions, which don't allow developers to offer alternative app stores or to use alternative payment processors for in-app purchases of digital goods like new looks for a character in a game. Apple and Google both charge commissions of between 15% and 30% for those purchases, which they say help fund the technology and administration of their respective stores.

    Some of the largest developers in the industry have taken strong stances against the current app store system. One of them, Fortnite maker Epic Games, sued both Apple and Google over the way they restrict payments on their respective app stores. The game maker, whose online battle royale game has become an international sensation, unsuccessfully argued to a California District Court Judge last year that Apple's actions ran afoul of antitrust laws. It is appealing that decision.

    Cook argued Tuesday that allowing the downloading of apps from outside sources could let companies subvert Apple's privacy protections, as well as put the security of consumer data at risk. While not naming Google's Android operating system specifically, he pointed to the recent case of a malicious app that spread ransomware on devices other than Apple's after users downloaded it from outside of the official app store.
     
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    V-Tail, pornography is strictly prohibited in this forum. You should know better. No excuse.
     
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    I keep my phone in airplane mode about 90% of the time, and I also keep location services turned off

    other than give up the phone I don't know what else I can really do
     
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    Nullus Anxietas
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    Originally posted by HRK:
    Interesting timing on this article about Apple and Privacy released today..

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    Apple's Tim Cook Says the Fight to Protect Privacy Is a Crucial One
    Tim Cook can bite me.

    While I more-or-less trust Apple's doing what their ToS claims they're doing, until proven otherwise, Cook and Apple are in no position to be crying "foul," vis-a-vis privacy. Not when, just a few months back, they proposed putting spyware in every Apple mobile device and into Mac OS X.

    All in the name of "Save The Children"

    It was only after unanimous push-back by every last security and privacy organization on the planet, and massive back-lash from consumers, they revised their plans. Note: They didn't actually cancel the project, but merely paused it for re-consideration.

    This is why the ensigmatic household may yet return to the Android fold.



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    "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
     
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    Originally posted by nhtagmember:
    I keep my phone in airplane mode about 90% of the time, and I also keep location services turned off

    other than give up the phone I don't know what else I can really do




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    Posts: 13957 | Location: On the mouth of the great Kenai River | Registered: June 24, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    The phone company has always listened in to conversations as far back as the 60's and 70's as evidenced by Ernestine's comedy bits on Laugh-in.... Big Grin

    They have just gotten better at it, with changes in technology...

     
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