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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
My 2010 crew max has been solid. No frills. The 5.7 is an amazing power plant. The t. turbo v6 seems silly.
I am thinking that a Ford super duty work truck with the 7.3 gas is my next truck. One on my dealers lot right now with long box and extra cab for $55k msrp.

One of my neighbors just purchased that exact truck a couple months ago, a brand spanking new Ford HD with the 7.3 gas engine, I'm assuming it's a 2025. It's a real beauty. Love that engine. He will be towing, but said he didn't want the expense or xtra cost of a diesel, since he's kind of a low to no maintenance type of fellow, he typically waits till something breaks then gets only what needs to get fixed to get rolling again, he uses his trucks as part of his living. If I had the moola I'd get one too and use it primarily as a commuter, as I do my current light duty truck, though I do haul on a regular basis stiff like lumber and compost, not anything really heavy like trailers and such.

I have owned several Tundras with 5.7, I personally don’t think one can buy a more reliable truck.
There are many trucks that offer way more bells and whistles at a cost of reliability.

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Originally posted by wrightd:
Many specific engines with factory turbos have known problems resulting from the turbo itself. Others are better. Personally I'd avoid a turbo unless it was a high performance car or otherwise unavoidable. If you DO get any factory turbo vehicle of any kind, study up on factory turbo engine maintenance, and DO NOT follow the manufacturer's recommendations for oil and colling fluid changes, or you will be sorry for it, since the life of the turbo system are critically depending on the specs, quality, and freshness of those fluids, and as far as the engine oil goes, the oil spec the manufacturer specifies is not the best one for the turbo system. The manufacturer has no interest in maximizing the life of that system, they only want to keep it running until the very next day the warranty runs out.

I think any motor, you have to study up. N/A or FI. It’s all down to design, production quality (including suppliers), etc. There is no blanket statement this or that. I’ve been running turbocharged engines since the early 90’s. All have been Japanese, sans one, a Ford, but it was a German Ford, built in Saarlouis. And the issues with that one stemmed from a head change more so than any turbo anything. Ford was supposed to farm out the entire head to Cosworth, cheaped out, did it themselves, and put the wrong HG on every single one of them, and pushed them out of the factory, knowingly, so meet production schedule. It backfired on them and they no longer make it. A friend had one also and put very highly mileage on it with no problems whatsoever. I was just unlucky. But it wasn’t serious issues either. An oil supply line to the turbo started leaking, then a transmission seal. 2 minor repairs + the full head change (recall was for HG replacement only, but I demanded a new head altogether).

My point is they are not all the same. I have friends who have ran hundreds of thousands of miles on turbocharged diesel engines. 300k, 400k, etc. Simple maintenance only. As I said, it’s all down to design, and production quality. All you need do is research. I’m not a Toyota bumper but am a Japanese only gearhead. 8 vehicles, all Japanese are in the garage/driveway. And while I only have 1 Toyota currently and have only owned 2 altogether, I’d trust them to sort this out in due time. And I would still trust them as a mfr. as they are largest on the planet. Any FMC I’d hit the pause button unless the motor has been used extensively overseas for years prior coming to the US like my current Toyota. I think the recommendation of hitting pause on a Tundra is wise but if I ever upgrade my current truck I’d go Toyota all day unless I needed a Diesel. Most mfr’s are going towards FI to meet EPA/CAFE regs. Seems Toyota has a supplier issue with this new Tundra as not all of them are affected. Waiting would be prudent, MMC, then good to go. Or just get one and get a CPO or extended warranty and make them deal with it if it comes up.