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| Three Generations of Service  |
Yeah, that decision has been made. The RAV4 will be paid off in November and I'm going to see how long I can go without a vehicle payment. Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent. | |||
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Wrong. GM builds some 1500s in Mexico. Seems to be mostly the Trail Boss and ZR2 trims these days. The rest come from Indiana, Ontario and I at least back a few years ago Flint did some 1500 production at times. Ram built the 1500 Classic and all the HDs in Mexico. Classic is dead now. The 1500 is made in Michigan. Ford builds the F-150 in Dearborn, MI and the Kansas City area. | |||
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| in the end karma always catches up |
Seems like all the new Toyota trucks/large SUV’s seem to have some sort of issue. We stopped and looked at new Sequia and dear Lord they were well North of $80k. Probably get a used one when I retire. " The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State" Art 1 Sec 32 Indiana State Constitution YAT-YAS | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us  |
2019 was the first year without the trans cooler. I prefer the aesthetics and interior upgrades of the 2014+ compared to the 13s and earlier. I have 121k on my 2014. One of the best trucks you can get. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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I bought a used 2024 Tundra SR5 with 4k on it in October I’m a GM guy, I had a 2017 Sierra . It had ACtive Fuel Management, and bent the push rods. This is a known issue and GM did nothing for me. That was an expensive out of pocket expense. I’m done with GM. No to Ford, Dodge or Nissan so that left Toyota. First time Tundra owner so far so good. I looked and looked for a 2018-2021. Anything decent was 40-45k. I didn’t pay much more than that for my 2024 and got some warranty. I’m not a gearhead so not much help in that area, it feels like a rolling computer with plastic parts. It’s feels kinda like a truck but more like just a vehicle if that makes sense. We are taking a trip next month, I’ll know more when we get home. __________________________ If Jesus would have had a gun he would be alive today. Homer Simpson “Him plenty dead” Tonto | |||
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Many specific engines with factory turbos have known problems resulting from the turbo itself. Others are better. Personally I'd avoid a turbo unless it was a high performance car or otherwise unavoidable. If you DO get any factory turbo vehicle of any kind, study up on factory turbo engine maintenance, and DO NOT follow the manufacturer's recommendations for oil and colling fluid changes, or you will be sorry for it, since the life of the turbo system are critically depending on the specs, quality, and freshness of those fluids, and as far as the engine oil goes, the oil spec the manufacturer specifies is not the best one for the turbo system. The manufacturer has no interest in maximizing the life of that system, they only want to keep it running until the very next day the warranty runs out. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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So much truth to this statement. Personally I wouldn't touch anything with a turbo. I'd look at an F-150 with the 5.0 Coyote V8. We have one and love it. A big plus is that they don't have that cylinder deactivation crap that GM and Ram put in their trucks. Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six | |||
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I bought a ‘21 TRD Pro Crew Max. Last year of the 5.7. Bullet proof, proven driveline. Gas mpg sucks, averages about 13mpg combined, but it’s a truck. I love mine. I wouldn’t touch a new one. I’m certain they will work out the bugs but the idea of working on a tt engine has me concerned as well as it’s longevity. Foster's, Australian for Bud | |||
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I'd call this a winner, particularly if the Coyote engine is from the generation of the famous Ford modular big block motors. It the coyote is as good as the best of the modular engines, it should last forever with no trouble. These big V8 engines without the turbos give great power without the heat and trouble of turbos. Which is better, a big block v8, or a sewing machine on crack ? That's basically it. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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I own a 2017 Ford Expedition with the 1st gen 3.5L Ecoboost. Currently have almost 90,000 miles on it. I am religious about maintenance. I have owned (and still own 1) 4 German cars, 2 with turbos. Always (even in college, changed oil in the student parking lot) have done the required maintenance on time, and always used full synthetic oils. The only mechanical issues I’ve had were a front differential bearing going bad (Expedition, replaced under warranty), and a failed water pump (Expedition also, at 70000 or so, changed myself since I bought used and out of warranty). I don’t frankly by into the “never own a German car out of warranty” stuff, but I do think they are not likely to tolerate ignoring scheduled maintenance. Point is, 3 modern turbo vehicles from 3 manufacturers, with usual maintenance (though I do change the oil in the Expedition at 5000mi rather than trusting the oil monitor), and no turbo/engine related issues. Not a large sample, of course. However, these engines have all been excellent motivators of the vehicles they were placed in, whether for performance, efficiency, or power/towing. Forced induction is nothing to shy away from. My father’s 5.3L Sylverado is an absolute goat next to my Expedition, even though it outweighs it significantly, and gets (barely, in regular driving) worse gas mileage to boot. Forced induction is power on-demand (when you want it), without the losses associated with large displacement and heavy rotating mass. | |||
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Curb weight of my truck is pretty close at 5700#, I get 16.9-17.5 mpg in mixed driving. | |||
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Stay away from the 22-24 Tundras. The 2025’s are good to go. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
That is still TBD. Already been a couple engine failures on the forums. One was under 1k miles I believe. I still don’t believe the “machining debris” is the reason for these motor failures. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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My mileage experience has been about the same as barndg00. I have 60k on an '18 Crewmax. The '07 double cab I had was the best vehicle we had ever bought, totalled in a wreck with 212k. | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
I have a 2014 with 121k, full aftermarket skid plates, 2.5” lift, and big aggressive A/Ts. Rarely do interstate so I get about 10-11 mpg if I do go on the interstate I get 13-14 mpg. I did not buy the truck for its gas mileage. My biggest gripe is the tiny 28 gallon tank. I have no fill up every 220 miles or so. I wish I had the extra coin to upgrade to the Transfer Flow 46 gallon tank. Actually I take that back, my biggest gripe is no true limited slip differential. Its an electronic setup that is decent aside from the fact I have to manually turn it on and off and it sounds like absolute hell when functioning. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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| Ammoholic |
I know absolutely nothing about Tundras, so I’m kinda shooting in the dark. I can only call on my limited experience 40 years ago working in a garage and less limited experience more recently working with heavy equipment on the ranch. The conclusion I’ve come to is that if you use a piece of equipment that will barely do the job and run it really hard it is not going to hold up nearly as a piece of equipment that never gets much over 60% effort and is basically loafing. I’d happily take a naturally aspirated V8 making less horsepower over some smaller motor force-fed induction air to make more horsepower. I don’t have to consider it much to have a pretty good idea which one is going to hold up better… | |||
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^^^^^^^^that’s the right way to look at machinery You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
My 2010 crew max has been solid. No frills. The 5.7 is an amazing power plant. The t. turbo v6 seems silly. I am thinking that a Ford super duty work truck with the 7.3 gas is my next truck. One on my dealers lot right now with long box and extra cab for $55k msrp. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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And until they change that Fugly grill! I can’t speak to the V6, but I do know ford went that way with their half tons. Engine technology seems to be getting better. I loved my 2015 Tundra. I also owned a ‘22 Tacoma. Both performed extremely well. I hold Toyota trucks in high regard from my experience. If you’re not towing a lot the V6 surely will get the better gas mileage. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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