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Toying with the idea of getting a new truck. Most likely will not, but the numbers appear to be doable depending on what they deem my trade to be worth.

Of course, the 5.7 V8 is no longer an option but then I don't do a lot of towing any more either.

Any input on the twin-turbo V6? Power is fine I'm sure, more interested in mileage and reliability.




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Something about a V6 in a full size truck that feels akin to kissing your sister (so I'm told...)

Toyota has had some issues with this motor, but I'm certain they'll get it worked out. I'm a long time Toyota guy, and the 4.7 and 5.7 have been great motors. Shit, the 3.4 and 4.0 are also legendary.

Ford seems to be making this twin turbo V6 thing work, so I guess the idea is here to stay.




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Posts: 9786 | Location: Orlando, Florida | Registered: July 12, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Bought my Tundra twin turbo V 6 three months ago. It has quick acceleration, very good top end. Every day driving mileage averaging nineteen and a half MPG. Towing my 22 ft.equipment trailer(empty) gets thirteen MPG. Rides good , drives good. I don't care for all the "smart" features but can turn most of them off. Hope this helps.


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Posts: 254 | Location: Middle Georgia | Registered: June 26, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I wanted one but all the motors grenading got me looking elsewhere. Once RAM started shipping their Hurricane engine RAM 1500's last summer (inline-6, twin turbos), I bought one and have been quite happy with it. I got a Limited trim to get air suspension, massaging seats and AMP Research running boards as standard and the Crew cab/long bed combo (not easily found on lots...nearly all dealers seem to fit the short bed).

The Laramie is the trim to get on the 1500; the Hurricane SO runs on 87 and is nearly as quick as my HO. If it was a daily driver, I definitely would have gone SO for the gas savings alone as they're very closely matched performance-wise (mid 4's for the HO and high 4's/low 5's for the SO).

The Toyota V6TT doesn't touch either in performance sadly.

 
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Coworker has one, lower trim. He's been happy with it so far. Replaced a 2.7TT EcoBoost F150 with the Tundra.

My brother in law just went from a 2015 V8 Tundra to a new one. Hasn't had it long enough to make any real assumptions on it yet

Personally, I'm not a fan of the looks.
If I were truck shopping today, the F150, Sierra & Ram would get first look, probably in that order.
Love the looks of a light gray F150 Tremor, but not the $60-70k pricetag.




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Posts: 16423 | Location: Spring, TX | Registered: July 11, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I wanted one but all the motors grenading got me looking elsewhere.


Reference: https://www.thedrive.com/news/...ce-100000-tundra-v6s


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In May, Toyota announced a recall of its 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6. The affected models are the 2022 and 2023 Toyota Tundra pickups and Lexus LX SUVs. The issue was engine failure due to metal debris contaminating the circulating oil. The reason this debris, called swarf, existed in the first place was because internal passages within the engine block or cylinder heads were not thoroughly cleaned during the assembly process.

The obvious fix would be to remove the engine for disassembly, cleaning, and reassembly, followed by reinstallation. Sounds simple, but it’s a labor-intensive and time-consuming repair. Instead, Toyota opted to replace the engines entirely.



Additional link: https://www.thedrive.com/news/...eps-self-destructing


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Models within the ’22-23 year range, powered by the gas-only 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 are subject to the voluntary recall in North America, where they’re part of the Tundra and LX’s base configuration. The hybrid iForce Max pickups are not included in this recall.




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Posts: 14290 | Location: Virginia | Registered: July 15, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The Car Care Nut did a video on the V6 and the problems. Maybe this helps.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EyI4ujjxxuk


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Posts: 205 | Location: Orange County, California | Registered: July 18, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm a manager at a Toyota dealership and I'm not a fan honestly. I have a hard time with a truck with plastic bumpers and no tow hooks. The interior to me also feels incredibly cheap. Toyota these days is not the same Toyota I've known and purchased for past 20 years.


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I'm a manager at a Toyota dealership and I'm not a fan honestly. I have a hard time with a truck with plastic bumpers and no tow hooks. The interior to me also feels incredibly cheap. Toyota these days is not the same Toyota I've known and purchased for past 20 years.


Thanks. That and the history of the engine has pretty well put me off.

Never have managed to get a Ford dealer to talk sense, I have a personal hard-on for GM products. Might have to look at the Dodge/Hurricane combo. I've had a couple of Dodge vehicles in the past with reasonable luck.

If I was REALLY smart, I'd just keep the '13 Tundra and keep up with the maintenance and repairs on it.




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I have a 2016 Tundra with 5.7 L V8 about 90,000 miles. Love everything about the truck, except 13 - 14 MPG.
I will probably be driving it as long as dinosaur fuel is sill produced! I won't ever be able to afford a new truck again without divine intervention or lottery winning!
 
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I'm a manager at a Toyota dealership and I'm not a fan honestly. I have a hard time with a truck with plastic bumpers and no tow hooks. The interior to me also feels incredibly cheap. Toyota these days is not the same Toyota I've known and purchased for past 20 years.


Thanks. That and the history of the engine has pretty well put me off.

Never have managed to get a Ford dealer to talk sense, I have a personal hard-on for GM products. Might have to look at the Dodge/Hurricane combo. I've had a couple of Dodge vehicles in the past with reasonable luck.

If I was REALLY smart, I'd just keep the '13 Tundra and keep up with the maintenance and repairs on it.


As a dealer just steer clear of a Dodge/RAM/Jeep product unless you are okay with leasing. They make an awesome looking feature packed truck, but if you buy a new one with a $20,000 discount you'll still be upside down. The power of the Hurricane is nice but I'm not signing up for an engine with no dipstick.

I've personally had good luck with GM but I'm very picky about which model I choose. I'm actually in the processing of ordering a new Chevy 2500 HD with the 6.6 gas engine. A half ton tows my car trailer just fine, but all the new GM/Ford/Ram half tons are made in Mexico and just aren't built that heavy duty. The 2500's from GM are made in Michigan and the 6.6 engine doesn't have any AFM/DoD/Auto-stop-start emission style stuff on there. Many people are already well over 100k on them with hard use and they are staying together.


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I'm a manager at a Toyota dealership and I'm not a fan honestly. I have a hard time with a truck with plastic bumpers and no tow hooks. The interior to me also feels incredibly cheap. Toyota these days is not the same Toyota I've known and purchased for past 20 years.


Thanks. That and the history of the engine has pretty well put me off.

Never have managed to get a Ford dealer to talk sense, I have a personal hard-on for GM products. Might have to look at the Dodge/Hurricane combo. I've had a couple of Dodge vehicles in the past with reasonable luck.

If I was REALLY smart, I'd just keep the '13 Tundra and keep up with the maintenance and repairs on it.


What's the driving force on replacing the '13? I cant imagine the maintenance is an issue, just looking for something new(er)? What about replacing existing Tundra with a newer 2nd gen, like a 2020 or 2021?




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Posts: 9786 | Location: Orlando, Florida | Registered: July 12, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As a dealer just steer clear of a Dodge/RAM/Jeep product unless you are okay with leasing. They make an awesome looking feature packed truck, but if you buy a new one with a $20,000 discount you'll still be upside down. The power of the Hurricane is nice but I'm not signing up for an engine with no dipstick.


Yeah, I surfed a couple of semi-local Dodge/Ram dealers and nobody had anything on the lot that didn't start at $6x,xxx and that is NOT going to happen.

Looks like the '13 Tundra will grace my drive for the foreseeable future.




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AFAIC, the best Tundra is the 2007-2012. It has the 5.7 and the trans still had an external cooler. There are still some iffy things about them but they’re not catastrophic. Mostly annoying and Toyota should have been more careful. Correctable though. I have a 2010. Compared to my Duramax truck, the Tundra is nimble and muscular. Feels like a sports truck. But also capable of towing moderate loads.

I had a 00 Tundra before. I sold it at 500,000 miles. It was mechanically good to go for another 500,000. Mrs DF made me sell it because it got kind of ugly. She was right. But the 4.7 had great performance and reasonable fuel efficiency. I guess I’m saying with proper maintenance, Tundras can be great vehicles. V6 twin turbo notwithstanding.



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Something about a V6 in a full size truck that feels akin to kissing your sister (so I'm told...)



Try selling a full size truck with a turbo four banger, the 2.7L. The tow numbers GM claims are absolutely stupid, 9200 lbs Roll Eyes



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all GM/Ford/Ram half tons are made in Mexico



A lot of Chevy's 1500's are built in Oshowa Canada and Indiana. All of the HD trucks are built in Flint and Oshowa



 
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As a dealer just steer clear of a Dodge/RAM/Jeep product unless you are okay with leasing. They make an awesome looking feature packed truck, but if you buy a new one with a $20,000 discount you'll still be upside down. The power of the Hurricane is nice but I'm not signing up for an engine with no dipstick.


Yeah, I surfed a couple of semi-local Dodge/Ram dealers and nobody had anything on the lot that didn't start at $6x,xxx and that is NOT going to happen.

Looks like the '13 Tundra will grace my drive for the foreseeable future.


As you may or may not have heard the CEO of Stelantis got the boot a couple of weeks ago and the new chief has said he’s going to reduce pricing on the ‘25 Jeep and Ram products anywhere from 25-30%. If I were you I’d wait a couple of weeks and see how things shake out. They are also starting to discount left over ‘22 &. ‘23’s

https://youtu.be/1UlDUHipDIM?si=6E0-infLKkXZ22cV


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I got so lucky that I bought my 21 Tundra in Oct of 20 right before all the crazy markups started happening. From the info I've seen the 22, 23, and 24's are a no go. Even if you get a good discount and Toyota covers your motor, who wants to deal with that? I would wait to see what happens with the 25's before I bought one.




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I wouldn't go near the new motor for a couple years, they're already replacing a buttload of longblocks. I'll probably drive my '21 V8 for as long as I can climb up into it.
 
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Keep your ‘13 Tundra for a few more years, until the new engine is deemed solid.


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Keep your ‘13 Tundra for a few more years, until the new engine is deemed solid.



This, from what I’ve heard Toyota is having issues with this engine. I have an eco boost f150 and while it’s good on gas and gives you pretty decent power I do miss the simplicity of my v8 f150 I had before it.
 
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