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it also appears that representatives from MO and WI are now in AZ looking at the audit process

I hope they take some lessons home with them
It's been reported that representatives from 9 other states are checking out the AZ process.

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Just an FYI: DJT's birthday is Monday, June 14. I plan to observe it.
 
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And that day just happens to be Flag Day! There is a God! God Bless you Mr. President!
 
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Cool observation guys. Happy birthday President Trump.
 
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the fact that they are giving a bit of a warning about who to vote for makes me have hope that its mostly conservatives that are leaving, and that the residual progressives will slowly choke themselves


A “CA or NY conservative” may be a conservative when measured up against other CA or NY people, but measured up against Tennesseans they’re liberal at best. Our neighborhood is littered with them and COVID has made them completely insane. My best description is they’re like locusts and they’re a plague to the states they flee into. They might not be full blown commies but they’re not small government folks that believe in personal responsibility.


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^^^

that is true
 
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From Epoch Times

Pennsylvania Republicans Introduce Sweeping Election Reform Bill

By Allen Zhong June 12, 2021 Updated: June 13, 2021

Pennsylvania Republicans proposed an overhaul of the state’s election system on Thursday with stricter voter identification requirements and mail ballot signature verification.

State Rep. Seth Grove—the chair of the House State Government Committee who acts as House Republicans’ point person for election legislation—introduced the Voting Rights Protection Act, House Bill 1300, after months of hearings by the House State Government Committee.

The legislation aims at transforming and improving Pennsylvania’s election process to restore the integrity of and trust in elections, according to a statement from Grove’s office.

The bill seems to embrace ideas from both the Republican and Democrat side and proposes comprehensive measures to change the rules for election including:

Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025.
Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day.
Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations.
Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day.
Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls.
Requiring signature verification for mail ballots.
Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list.
Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits.

Most of the proposed rules in House Bill 1300 are based on a report published by the State House Government Committee back on May 10.

The report (pdf)—titled “A Comprehensive Review of Pennsylvania’s Election Laws: How Pennsylvania Can Guarantee Rights and Integrity in Our Election System”—identifies 25 aspects of the election process that needs improvements.

The bill is intended to fix the issues listed in the report. “This responsible bill includes all aspects of issues brought before the committee and will propel Pennsylvania’s election into the 21st century, all while fixing fatal flaws and election security issues,” Grove said.

Pennsylvania House Speaker Bryan Cutler, a Republican, is supportive of the bill.

“House Republicans have consistently paved the way to more accessible, secure[,] and accurate elections,” he said. “Our caucus ensured the state tracked the impacts of our evolving election law in 2019 and 2020, and today we see those efforts brought to fruition in this important and thorough legislation by Chairman Grove. Pennsylvanians must have faith in their elections and this bill is another piece of restoring the public’s trust.”

The proposed bill will likely be blocked by Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, though Republicans control both the House and Senate in the state legislature.

Wolf suggested earlier the week that he will veto any election bill from the Republican side.

“I will stand up for our freedom to vote. I will not allow bad actors to put up barriers to voting in Pennsylvania,” he said. “Not only will I veto any legislative efforts to roll back the freedoms Pennsylvanians right now have, I will continue to push for changes that expand our access to the polls.”

The Republicans may not have enough votes to override Wolf’s likely veto.

House Minority Leader Rep. Joanna E. McClinton told KDKA-TV that some parts of the bill may get bipartisan support but she denounced the idea of Bureau of Election Audits.

“We do not need a Bureau of Election Audits. One of the things I’m waiting for my colleagues across the aisle to do is end the big lie, which reeked so much terror and havoc and a deadly attack on our United States Capitol,” she said.

She also criticized that the Republicans cut off Democrats during the legislative process, saying the bill will reach an impasse at the executive branch.

“The thing that makes Democrats in the House relevant is that we have a Democratic governor. So in order for a bill to get signed, it’s best that we all collaborate,” McClinton said.

Wolf’s office and McClinton’s office didn’t respond immediately to requests for comments from The Epoch Times.
 
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Wolf suggested earlier the week that he will veto any election bill from the Republican side.

“I will stand up for our freedom to vote cheat. I will not allow bad actors honest legislators to put up barriers to [fraudulent] voting in Pennsylvania,” he said.

Fixed it.



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Wolf suggested earlier the week that he will veto any election bill from the Republican side.

“I will stand up for our freedom to vote cheat. I will not allow bad actors honest legislators to put up barriers to [fraudulent] voting in Pennsylvania,” he said.

Fixed it.
Wouldn't it be interesting if after he did that, the Legislature voted to override his veto?

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Pennsylvania Republicans Introduce Sweeping Election Reform Bill

By Allen Zhong June 12, 2021 Updated: June 13, 2021

Pennsylvania Republicans proposed an overhaul of the state’s election system on Thursday with stricter voter identification requirements and mail ballot signature verification...



Iowa has passed a similar law, and it's driving the libs and the media (one and the same) crazy:

Iowa voters embraced early voting. Then Republicans rushed to restrict it.

Tom Barton 14 hrs ago

As prospects for a federal voting rights bill flounder, Iowans who prefer to vote early will likely face more difficulties casting a ballot in the next election.

Iowa voters will have less time and fewer options to vote early in person or by mail-in ballot under sweeping changes to Iowa election laws passed this spring — the first in a Republican-backed nationwide push to pass so-called election-integrity measures critics warn will disenfranchise voters.

A raft of new restrictions in GOP-led states has sparked passionate debate across the country about voting rights, with President Joe Biden issuing a plea for legislation in Congress to protect the right to vote.

Biden pledged that June would be a "month of action" on Capitol Hill as Congress considers the legislation, and he tasked Vice President Kamala Harris with leading the administration’s efforts to defend voting rights.

But months before, Iowa Republicans had moved swiftly in the legislative season to place new hurdles to casting ballots before Election Day, limiting a voting method that has had growing appeal for both Democrats and Republicans.

Nearly 6 of 10 Iowa voters cast ballots before Election Day 2020...

... The lawsuit claims the new law creates an undue burden on the fundamental right to vote, citing numerous violations of voters' constitutional rights. It claims none of the provisions of the new law will make elections more secure or increase public confidence in the electoral process, but instead imposes "undue and unjustified burdens on a wide range of lawful voters, including some of the state's most vulnerable and underrepresented citizens."

"This is because the bill is an exercise in voter suppression, one disguised as a solution for a problem that exists only in the fertile imaginations of its creators," the lawsuit states....

Complete (and long) article:

https://qconline.com/news/loca...ource=home-top-story
 
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Originally posted by flashguy: Wouldn't it be interesting if after he did that, the Legislature voted to override his veto?
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That would be the only goddamn way it would happen.
 
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Nearly 6 of 10 Iowa voters cast ballots before Election Day



I still don't understand why we have "Election Day" when people seem to believe that they can vote whenever they feel like it.


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Happy birthday to President Trump

a real leader in a world full of half-wit politicians, he is missed
 
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I still don't understand why we have "Election Day" when people seem to believe that they can vote whenever they feel like it.

Because that's the only way to make it honest and fair. Everyone must show photo ID. Everyone votes on "Election Day". Maybe we should value fair elections enough to do that again?

Happy birthday to President Trump !



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This letter lines up w some things DiGenova said in the above




letter seen at CTH

Garland is a political hack.

I've been reluctant to post it because we have been disappointed so many times, but there are reports that the Arizona audit has discovered many of the 2.1 million Maricopa County ballots are missing. This is a "watch item" to see if it turns out to be true.

Mark Brnovich also just announced he will try to be the Republican candidate to run against Mark Kelly for the Arizona senate seat in 2022.
 
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and from Georgia ???

GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger tweets:

"Restoring confidence in our elections is going to be impossible as long as Fulton County’s elections leadership continues to fail the voters of Fulton County and the voters of Georgia. They need new leadership to step up and take charge."

"New revelations that Fulton County is unable to produce all ballot drop box transfer documents will be investigated thoroughly, as we have with other counties that failed to follow Georgia rules and regulations regarding drop boxes. This cannot continue."

I am pretty sure the claims about no ballot box transfer documents were made months ago

A reminder - Mark Zuckerberg gave $350 million to DEM cities to help run the 2020 election and to set up drop boxes for mail in ballots. He was a key enabler of the mail in fraud and cheating.
 
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Garland is a political hack.

I've been reluctant to post it because we have been disappointed so many times, but there are reports that the Arizona audit has discovered many of the 2.1 million Maricopa County ballots are missing. This is a "watch item" to see if it turns out to be true.

Yep. Garland will do anything possible to interfere, to obfuscate, and to keep the truth from coming out.

What's so frustrating is knowing the election was stolen but being treated as a pariah for speaking it. The truth could have been pursued in a timely manner, but the weak Roberts led Supreme Court didn't want to have anything to do with it. That enabled the media to say: "Nothing to see here... move along!"

Biden was installed, but I suspect even most Democrats know he wasn't elected.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Biden was installed, but I suspect even most Democrats know he wasn't elected.
From your lips (well...keyboard) to God's ears......



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It Garland wants to interfere in states rights, how can we interfere with Garland?

Wonder what skeletons he has buried? Wonder what his past would show?

He needs to be Bork’d to the extreme.

He is nothing more than a partisan hack just like Janet Reno was a brilliant AG.
 
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