You deliberately trying to be antagonistic or is this your natural state?

Thomas Paine, 1776:

“THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated”

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Originally posted by SIG228:

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Originally posted by bozman:
This is going to end in violence any way it turns out.

I believe the President will win, but either way there will be violence.

If you have not prepared for this, time to do so. Get your affairs in order. Have the discussion with your family. Gather your gear.

Everything I would need to last the 30 minutes my old ass would survive is ready, by the front door.

I don't write this as a keyboard warrior, full of big words and ego. I write it with reflection of what those men who were readying to march off to war in 1775 were doing.

Be responsible, prepare now. Be a good American and be ready to heed the call.

Again, what the fuck are you waiting for, someone to tell you who the enemy is? Maybe that dumbfuck from Park City can swing by and pick you up. Couple of keyboard comedians, I mean commandos.

He is just an Oregon DemonRAT

Quit bickering yall. Ignore the trolls and move on. Giving them a second of your time or repeating what they say is counter productive. Focus on the positive.

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The best we can hope is they all do the right thing. Which these days that's a hard thing to come by.

Nobody in that fetid swamp of Washington is willing to do the right thing! Every damn one(with only a handful of exceptions) of them is crooked as hell and only interested in making themselves rich of off the public they are supposed to serve.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
Well gee, Marsha, was it too much trouble to ASK, then run a security test on the machines?

I guess maybe you don't know much about how software works, is developed, coded, tested (hopefully), released, and installed?

Not saying this happened. I've no way of knowing. But it would be trivial to insert into otherwise legitimate software, code that could materially affect the outcome of an election. The people that install the new code can tell you whatever they want wrt what are the differences between old and new. And testing? Guess who designs, and often runs, the testing and validation procedures?

For a recent example: Just look at how close VW came to almost getting away with spoofing EPA testing regimens. And that didn't involve a clueless electorate and marginally-educated poll workers.

The truth of the matter is that our democracy has always depended upon there being a preponderance of integrity. A preponderance of people primarily concerned about preserving the republic and the public's faith in the system. An educated and informed electorate. These things more anything else.

The evidence suggests those conditions no longer obtains.

No, I not really skilled that well, although I've used Computers at work and home for over 30 years.

However, thru experience, I have learned not do a Computer upgrade the day before the machines will be heavily used.

To me, it's like doing a modification on a motorcycle the day before you leave on a long trip.

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Originally posted by SIG228:

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Originally posted by bozman:
This is going to end in violence any way it turns out.

I believe the President will win, but either way there will be violence.

If you have not prepared for this, time to do so. Get your affairs in order. Have the discussion with your family. Gather your gear.

Everything I would need to last the 30 minutes my old ass would survive is ready, by the front door.

I don't write this as a keyboard warrior, full of big words and ego. I write it with reflection of what those men who were readying to march off to war in 1775 were doing.

Be responsible, prepare now. Be a good American and be ready to heed the call.

Again, what the fuck are you waiting for, someone to tell you who the enemy is? Maybe that dumbfuck from Park City can swing by and pick you up. Couple of keyboard comedians, I mean commandos.

What is your issue, if you play this out to the end...unless Trump concedes there will be violence.

Now I certainly don't believe it's wise to advertise on a public forum specifics but saying " I am ready to stand up and be counted" is not just chest thumping. Many here on SF have experienced the horrors of war and while they certainly do not welcome it (only the truly perverse or stupid would/do) they also recognize that they may be called on again.

Bravado from those that have "been there...got the scars" serves a purpose. I would not discount it as "big talk".

I do not wish to presume what is in others heads but I have been asking myself for several weeks " when would I stand up" it's not an easy question for those not wearing the uniform anymore complicated by the issue of this being our country not some third world shithole but the place where our families sleep....where our professional lives exist....

Men have been asking themselves these question for millennia.....

I have experienced a color revolution first hand, there is no question n my mind we are seeing one here in the US.

The Don is pissed. And damn it so am I.

Fight for the truth, Mr. President. I remember the meme well posted here (some place, not long ago): It's not me they're after, it's you. I'm only standing in the way.

So, to satisfy my curiosity, did the media "call" ALL of the states that stopped their counts, and continued to stop and go the last 4 days?

Release it all. Every page. Unredacted. Go scorched earth.

Trump is Rocky. Like all Rocky movies Rocky takes a beating for four rounds or so and then the hammer punches come. Monday those hammer punches begin. Ding....Ding!!

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Originally posted by GWbiker:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
Well gee, Marsha, was it too much trouble to ASK, then run a security test on the machines?

I guess maybe you don't know much about how software works, is developed, coded, tested (hopefully), released, and installed?

Not saying this happened. I've no way of knowing. But it would be trivial to insert into otherwise legitimate software, code that could materially affect the outcome of an election. The people that install the new code can tell you whatever they want wrt what are the differences between old and new. And testing? Guess who designs, and often runs, the testing and validation procedures?

For a recent example: Just look at how close VW came to almost getting away with spoofing EPA testing regimens. And that didn't involve a clueless electorate and marginally-educated poll workers.

The truth of the matter is that our democracy has always depended upon there being a preponderance of integrity. A preponderance of people primarily concerned about preserving the republic and the public's faith in the system. An educated and informed electorate. These things more anything else.

The evidence suggests those conditions no longer obtains.

No, I not really skilled that well, although I've used Computers at work and home for over 30 years.

However, thru experience, I have learned not do a Computer upgrade the day before the machines will be heavily used.

To me, it's like doing a modification on a motorcycle the day before you leave on a long trip.

Yep. When I was doing desert riding in the 80s we damn sure didn't do a major rebuild or mod before a trip. We made sure we could test it first. We didn't have a lot of extra cash to ruin an entire trip.

The media will keep mocking him, but they are Tokyo Rose at this point.

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Originally posted by highroundcount:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Well, if Facebook, Twitter, et al keep censoring it, that's good enough for me.

https://parler.com/post/ab54f9...46c29f53fd75f83c14c5

Good grief, this triggers my inner paranoid self. This predicted exactly what happened.

I need a stiff drink after viewing that. It would explain the rabid responses from a number of key players the past four years.

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
However, thru experience, I have learned not do a Computer upgrade the day before the machines will be heavily used.

True: Normally one would not. There may have been a real, legitimate issue they felt had to be addressed. They may have bungled the fix. Or not fixed what they intended to fix. Or something nefarious might've been going on. One hopes we'll get an answer. And that it will be a true answer.

I, for one, will not hold my breath. I don't know if there was election fraud--either related to the instant question or any of the other issues that have been raised. If there was: I don't know if any of it rose to a level sufficient to materially effect any outcomes. I suspect there was and I suspect it did. I also expect the perpetrators have so-muddied the waters these questions cannot definitively be answered.

This is why I have lost faith in the election process.

I just told the Wall Street Journal "Fuck you. Biden is not elected." Cancelled.

It ain't over.

Im sending money now, no more words- action! Lets makes sure Schumer doesnt steal seats from Georgia and help with the Run Off.

https://secure.winred.com/geor...q1s73zJRnQKUfVtw6zL0

The real conservative victory...



This was the year redistricting will happen. We gained more seats in the house which means we can re-draw the lines for districts which will be effective for the next 10 years, essentially setting up a bloodbath for dems in 2022.

Tony.