Self delete. Double post, sorry.

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Here's my rally report:

Monday Evening: I drove down to our house in Wildwood Crest Monday evening (Everything is winterized since it's a summer town) to open up the house and get it ready for my in laws who were accompanying me.

Around 6pm, I donned my Trump gear and biked over to the convention center to scope out the situation. It was a festive atmosphere, there were already a few thousand people braving the cold temps camped out in line. The first 2 and a half corrals were full of people already. The bars across the street were all decked out in Trump everything and there were smiling people singing classic American patriotic songs and reveling in the atmosphere. There were food trucks set up all night and into the next day for people to grab some food.

I hung out for a bit to take it all in because I still couldn't believe that this was all happening. I eventually biked back to my house to meet the in laws, pack my gear for the upcoming long night, and try and get a few hours sleep so we could get in line by 3am. There was no way I was getting sleep, I was too excited and also worried that we wouldn't get in as the crowd numbers on a rally facebook page were rising quickly.

Time to Go: Around 2am running on no sleep, I gathered my gear and went outside to get our chairs, American flag etc ready to go. My inlaws and I walked over to the convention center to get in line and it was a little more quiet than earlier, since people were trying to get some sleep. It was cold, around 31 degrees with an ocean breeze. We got into line which was in the 4th corral at this point, and set up camp to get ready for the long wait. People just kept coming after us, filling the 5th corral by 5 am. We passed the time by talking to the people around us who were all so friendly and excited. Around 6am, I left the line to go home and get some blankets and coffee (despite 7 layers and sitting still, the cold creeps in). It was easy to leave and come back, people saved your spot, and even moved your chairs when the line would move. At this point everyone was spread out a little bit with chairs and tents.

COMPRESS THE LINE!!!: Around 9 am, all the corrals were full. Everyone was awake and the excitement for what was to come was intensifying The line of people was out of the corrals, down the convention center parking lot, across the street and around the block with more and more people coming. If you came at this time, you weren't getting inside. We started moving up in the line as they compressed everyone into a tighter area so that more people could get into the corral. We slowly moved our chairs and bags around the corral and got nice and close to everyone around us to allow more people in. Everyone was helping each other break down tents and move gear. We eventually came to rest in corral two with the remaining corrals filling up quickly with people, 10 yards thick. The lines still went across the street and around the block. I never was able to see the end.

In line: We were now pretty much where we were gonna be for the duration, other than a few small moves. We got to know the people around us very well. The people in front of us, a large family of Russian Jews, were fun and hilarious, behind us, a large group of black people, all decked out in MAGA gear. The Jewish people kept appearing with boxes of coffee and donuts and handing them out to everyone around them, some Grey Goose vodka as well! Everyone was finding out where each other was from and bonded over our love of America and what Donald Trump is doing. I've never experienced being around so many diverse, yet like minded people, who came together like this. I always craved it, but I never though it would actually happen. It was happening and then some. Many people were singing God Bless America and America the Beautiful. I had my giant American Flag on a pole that was very useful to people looking for a landmark in a shifting line.

Noon: The street outside the area was full of people still arriving to show support, the line was still massive and kept growing as they tried to continue to compress the corral. People in MAGA gear were all over the streets as far as the eye could see, for those not in line, the baseball fields across from the convention center was packed with people hanging out and watching the videos on the jumbotron in that area. (We had a jumbo tron in our lot as well). I was starting to get worried that we might not get in to the rally, we were all doing our own brand of math as we looked at the sea of supporters, trying to figure out around about where we stood. People were cold, tired, uncomfortable, yet still smiling and excited. It just kept getting better.

Protests: My neighbor was actually running the main protest. She's a nice lady, a bit wacko. She's a retired IRS Administrator (She was high up in the Admin) who hates Trump for every stupid reason, especially the "grab her by the pussy" comments. The funny thing is, she gets drunk and shows everyone in the neighborhood her boobs all the time, heck, my in laws even saw them once. She makes sexually inappropriate comments to me all the time, yet she thinks Trump is the problem. Anyway, the designated protest area was well away from the main location, and had a pathetic group consisting of local older white people...not very diverse. I don't know what they were protesting, other than their dislike of Trump, the man. It was quite silly, but we never saw or heard them, I just saw photos on facebook.

I saw a few random protesters who had the balls to come around the main area, mostly walking around the sidewalk. As they tried to shout bullshit, they were ignored, or drowned out by singing or chants of USA!

Secret Service Presence: I love looking for the stuff that other people don't notice. I made a game of spot the secret service with my father in law. Other than the 2 guys in tactical gear standing on the roof of the convention center, I didn't see any obvious secret service people until around 2pm when I saw two serious people in black just walking around the outer area of the corral scanning people. The female was absolutely beautiful and could have been a model. Other than the pole with a bunch of fancy cameras on it, The only other time I saw SS on the outside was when we eventually got close to the SS security screening around 6:30pm. The guys on the roof pulled out their rifles and assumed a more aggressive stance for the 7:45 arrival of the president.

The Final Push: I can on and on about how crowded it was, and how awesome people were, it was like Disney World for Patriots. You get the picture. Around 2pm, they REALLY compressed us to where we couldnt use chairs. They started letting people up through SS screening, at which point they put up everything that wasnt going to be allowed through the check point...which was just about everything we had. The crowd of thousands had to leave behind chairs, tents, backpacks, hand warmers, lighters, vape pens, food, water, blankets, flags, signs, and just about everything else we brought to survive the night. Just heard that all that stuff was collected and given to the homeless.

The line compressed more as everyone pushed forward. The lines outside the corral were were even still growing with people hoping they might get in. Apparently those lines snaked around blocks and down the main street where the motorcade came in. They didnt get in, but they did see Trump waving to everyone! Around 3-4pm, as people got into the convention center, we were only at the top of the 2nd corral of people, with a serpentine of 1 and a half corrals in front of us, filled with thousands of people, all excited to get out of the cold and to see Trump. The faces showed concern that they wouldn't get in, I shared that concern as well. At one point, the line totally stopped moving for about an hour, everyone's spirits dropped a bit because we figured the rally was full, we endured this hardship, only not to get in. The sun starting to drop, and the return of the bitter cold only added to the frustration. Some people, convinced that they weren't getting in, left the line. Most stayed. Around 4:30 pm, to everyone's relief, the line started moving again! The whole corral remained full with hopefuls, as well as the line around the corner. We slowly made our way to SS screening and as we got through, everyone was filled with joy...kinda like Charlie getting into Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. We immediately beelined for the seating area, which was pretty much 95% full. Luckily, we found 5 seats close to each other at the upper right side. Shortly after, the limit was reach and the sad souls who remained outside could only watch on the jumbo trons. Those people didn't leave, they all stayed until Trump ended his speech.

After we got our seats, we ran to the bathrooms and got in line. I peed like a racehorse and used the sink to wash my hands and face. I almost felt human again, despite being tired and sore all over. The excitement of what was about to happen kept building as we sat down again.

For the short time we had cell phone service, We got alerts from friends on the outside that the "The Eagle has landed" in AC and was taking the helicopter to Cape May airport. Shortly after, our cell phone service was intermittent, no texts or internet.

TRUMP Arrives: 7:45pm...long day. No one really knew the speaking schedule, I thought we'd be hearing from a few people, and end with Trump. To our surpise, it was ALL Trump, with a quick speech from Van Drew and Kelly Ann Conway, while Trump stood next to them.

The best way I can describe this was a "Religious Experience", I know it sounds corny, but this is what most of these Americans were waiting for their whole lives, I know I have. A President who truly loves America and isn't afraid to show it. The man is amazing in person, his presence is unlike none I've ever experienced. The crowd was at a near frenzy at each opportunity for applause, with chants of "USA!" and "Four more Years!" whenever Trump noted an accomplishment. It was electrifying and I, along with thousands of others who experienced history in our little town are still basking in the afterglow of this amazing, once in a lifetime experience. Not in a million years would I have expected to see people this united and passionate about our country, all behind one man who we know has our best interests at heart and will fight the devil himself to Keep America Great!!!

After Trump walked out, I quickly tried to get out of the building to see the motorcade, but I just missed it. There were still thousands outside in a very festive atmosphere, no problems whatsoever. Planning and execution of this was perfect. Police from every local shore town were there providing help. All the excitement and looks of amazement were still on everyone's faces as they milled about, or walked to where ever their cars were parked. I walked around a bit sad that it was ending, but fully energized by what I just experience. I went home to get warm and lie down, but my brain wouldn't stop. I watched hundreds of videos from the rally on facebook, reading about other's experiences, and just trying to keep the experience going in my own way.

Some reports say there were 50k-60k people on that little island, all in support of America and what Trump is doing. Something like 175k tickets were requested.

There's so much I've left out, from the actual speech and all the fun we had in line freezing our asses off, but I think you get the general vibe of what went down

KAG 2020

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Here's my rally report: *snip*

...There's so much I've left out, from the actual speech and all the fun we had in line freezing our asses off, but I think you get the general vibe of what went down

KAG 2020

Wow, what a great report! That sounds like an unbelievable experience.
Thanks for sharing it with us!


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Thanks for the rally report RAMIUS. Wow!

thanks for the report Ramius. Event of a lifetime

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old interview w Bolton. He would lie for national security. (so would I, but this is a bit ironic)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1222375736809598976

Thank you for that, Ramius. In my head, as I read it, I was seeing the imagery of all of you folks waiting in line, and replayed a lot of the highlights of his speech. Fleshed it out quite a bit.

Compare the rallies that Trump has been holding for years, and especially lately, with anything the Dem candidates have been doing and it's a startling difference. There's a lot of patriots in this country, and now we get to unite behind, and support a man who actually has the best interests of the country at heart. And he's made incredible gains for us! We absolutely need four more years, and we need to take the House back. I was glad to hear him keep banging on that drum.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Here's my rally report:


Some reports say there were 50k-60k people on that little island, all in support of America and what Trump is doing.

KAG 2020

Thanks for the report.Just one question-with that many people on the island werent you afraid the island was going to tip over?

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Originally posted by triggertreat:


Thanks for the report.Just one question-with that many people on the island werent you afraid the island was going to tip over?

good for Gardner

https://hotair.com/archives/ed...lton-lets-end-thing/

Cory Gardner, one of the most vulnerable Republican incumbents in Senate race this year, told Colorado Politics that he will vote down any attempt to subpoena John Bolton or anyone else. Seventeen is enough, Gardner declared for the record:

“I do not believe we need to hear from an 18th witness,” the Colorado Republican told Colorado Politics in a statement. “I have approached every aspect of this grave constitutional duty with the respect and attention required by law, and have reached this decision after carefully weighing the House managers and defense arguments and closely reviewing the evidence from the House, which included well over 100 hours of testimony from 17 witnesses.”

Gardner had previously been noncommittal about Democrats’ demands to call more witnesses, including Bolton, who writes in a forthcoming book that Trump told him he withheld military aid from Ukraine to pressure the country to investigate Democratic political rival Joe Biden.

It will take 51 votes to call witnesses or subpoena documents, meaning four Republicans will have to join the 47 Senate Democrats and independents who have said senators should consider more evidence before deciding whether to remove Trump from offices on charges he abused his power and obstructed an ensuing congressional investigation.

Ted Cruz

Scenes from the impeachment trial: Schumer invited Lev Parnas to be his personal guest today at the trial. Minutes ago, Parnas was ejected from the gallery...because he’s wearing an ankle bracelet mandated bc he’s a criminal defendant accused of serious felonies!

Should of been issued an orange jumpsuit, flip flops & tossed in a cell.

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Originally posted by PASig:
The GOP has already taken that idiot Don Lemon's clip and made a campaign commercial out of it.

Not on YouTube (On Twitter) so I can't embed it:

Embedded.

In the wake of Don "The Stupidest Man on Televsion" Lemon's non-apology, I heard it noted that Donald Trump frequent insults his opponents, but unlike them, never insults the voters.

Think about that, fellow "boomer rubes." Still deplorable?

On August 27, 2019, Bolton described Trump’s July 25 phone conversations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) as “very warm and cordial calls” and acknowledged that corruption poses a significant problem for Ukraine.

However, Bolton’s story changed after Trump allegedly fired him.

video at

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...efore-getting-fired/

We need some common sense publishing reform

I would support a 10 year waiting period for anyone who serves in government to be able to publish accounts of their experience for profit. You are there to do a job in the service of this country, you should not be able to profit by slinging dirt on your way out the door. If the shit you have to say is still interesting enough to get you a book deal after 10 years then have at it. At least then you are not shoveling poo on the current administration.

Note I said published for profit. By all means, if there is corruption then report it, testify, do interviews but no money for you.

If your solution to any problem is “the government should make a law....”, it probably isnt a very good solution.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...nnell-again-n2560361

Tomorrow marks the final day of questioning during President Trump's impeachment trial and it's looking likely that Senators have heard enough.

Despite days of pleading, Senate Democrats will likely lose their bid to break precedent by calling new witnesses who did not testify during the House impeachment inquiry and before articles were transmitted to the Senate. Minority Leader Chuck Schumer seems to be accepting the inevitable: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has bested him again.

Democrats need four Republican votes. All eyes are on vulnerable seats in Arizona, Maine, Colorado and on "moderates" Susan Collins, Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski. Despite Schumer's claims, Democrats have not "won over the American people," who just want this whole thing to be over with.

Republican Senator Cory Gardner has said he will vote "no" on new witnesses, leaving Democrats with fewer options.

In the end if Senators vote against new witnesses, it will be to preserve the integrity and dignity of the Senate and will serve as a rejection of the House's incomplete, weak case against President Trump.

Jerry Nadler: Our Case ‘Proven Beyond Any Doubt at All’

https://www.breitbart.com/crim...nd-any-doubt-at-all/

House impeachment manager Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) repeatedly told the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump on Wednesday night that the House case was “proven beyond any doubt at all.”

Nadler’s odd, and repeated, claim seemed to undermine claims by Democrats that they needed to see more witnesses and documents in the trial. The House Judiciary Committee chairman played an unusually understated role in the first day of the question-and-answer session in the Senate.

Republicans have asked that if Democrats are so confident in their case — confident enough to impeach a president for only the third time in American history — then they should allow that case to stand or fall based on the evidence collected in the House, not by adding new evidence.

Nadler added, at one point, that simply because the House Democrats had, in his view, proven their case beyond all doubt, that was not a reason to stop adding more evidence. It “doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have more proof if it comes forward,” he told the Senate.

Democrats and White House lawyers disagreed over the standard of proof. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) told Senators they were the individual arbiters of the standard required, according to their constitutional oath.

Deputy White House Counsel Patrick Philbin disagreed, arguing that the Constitution likened impeachment to a criminal process and therefore proof beyond a reasonable doubt was required.

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Originally posted by recoatlift:
I never suspected so many traitorous people that held good paying jobs while truly hating their boss.

Hated the man from the start because he wanted integrity and their full support to get our country back on its feet. True Americans want this country to be # 1 in the best of ways. No apologies, we are the best.

And as I recall, Bolton wanted to start another war. Had been advocating it for some time.

Apparently got a little over-zealous with DJT which led to his dismissal.

Asshole has been a "hawk" for a long time. Don't know if he ever actually wore a uniform, or not, but don't care enough to look it up. OTOH, maybe I will.

Did some checking, seems he did most everything he could to avoid military service. Did some time as a national guard member, but the article was not all that enamored about it.

From recent headlines, it seems he might be subject to some issues about publishing classified info in his book.