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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I have a couple of mid-1990s 870 Express shotguns that have been great.

I bought one in '88 shortly after they came out. Still have it. It's been a great shotgun and killed a lot of birds with it.

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Originally posted by 400m:
I have a question about the photos of the NY Glock issue. Both pics appear to show the barrel hood wedged into the case. Where was the bevel cut? Also, did the bevel eliminate the possibility of that specific jam, or only allow for the jam to be cleared by racking the slide?

The jam is caused by a combination of factors that weakened ejection like slide drag and underpowered ammo, which is why such a rare jam most commonly manifested on NYPD ranges with their unique set of factors.

The bevel cut was to the front of barrel hood where it meets the slide. It decreased unlock time and allowed a bit more recoil force rearward to aid ejection.

Got it, thanks Rogue.

The R51 did one thing right: the streamlined and snag-free slide/rear sight profile.



Coincidentally, Ruger does the same with the LCP and LC series. LCP Max shown.

Back in 1979, my dad bought a Sterling Mk II .380 pistol, like the one in the pic from the internet.



The firing pin-block safety on the slide was cast and the lever snapped off the very first day. He took it back to the gun shop, and a couple of days later, got it back with another safety installed. That 2nd safety lasted about a week before breaking, just like the first.

The pistol wasn't too bad, as .380 pistols can be, but the magazine feed lips apparently weren't hardened and were easy to deform. I think less than 2 boxes of rounds were ever fired through the pistol, and it would misfire / jam on occasion.

It became a drawer gun and was stolen sometime around 1988 IIRC. Was that theft a blessing or a curse?

Sterling apparently went out business sometime in the early 1980s.

I believe there were a number of problems with Sigs P365 when it first came out in 2018, firing pins breaking because they weren't properly heat treated and other serious trigger problems.

It took me a long time to love the 365, and IIRC I bought about half a dozen that I just hated and sold 'em at a loss.


Now, I do love them, and by simply adding a Wilson grip Module so I could get my hand fully on the grip and some decent sights (I like Night
Fision) now I have 4 (all slightly different configurations) that have never let me down.

The gun that never messed up, IMO, is the Glock 43X and its older, but smaller brother, the G43. I don't recall any complaints about them, though I suppose I could have missed them.

I carry a 43X or P365 because I trust them. I have a Gen 5 G19 by the bed and though I don't have a lot of rounds through it, it always works. I never bought an Sig 320 or a Bren 10 (though I thought if they could make it work I'd like to have that Bren-but I was a lot younger and dumber).

Our family had a Remington 742 in the early 60s and it was always reliable. My Uncle took a lot of deer with it. I had one briefly in the early 80s, but never fired it except at the range. FWIW, it, too, always went bang when I wanted it to do so.

Bob

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The JLD PTR-91s with the “improved” chamber that was only warrantied to run American Eagle 147gr.

The scorpion logo was just as bad as Spike’s Tactical.

Also anything HK from Todd Bailey and Bill Springfield.

Colt American 2000.

Smith & Wesson Sd and SDVE: S&W’s early response to Glock? Can’t remember whether it had significant issues, or just a lack of pizzazz…or both.

Sigmas are mostly notorious for their long, heavy, gritty, downright terrible trigger pulls. Widely regarded as one of the worst handgun triggers of all time.

I remember a gun acquaintance that tried to sell me his 1st Gen Sigma at a awfully low price. He was counting on my ignorance of the situation with the Sigmas. Looking back I'd say it was a character flaw of some sort, particularly since we were not strangers and hung out a little in the same gun club shooting a particular discipline. When I told him no thanks, I didn't let on that I already figured hie out, I didn't want to damage the relationship we already had, but it did change my impression of his character, though I can't judge to harshly, therefore go I and all that.

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Sigmas are mostly notorious for their long, heavy, gritty, downright terrible trigger pulls.

One of those turned up on an episode of Forensic Files.

The victim appeared to have committed suicide by shooting herself in the head, but two shots were fired. The gun was tested to see if it might have "doubled" but the trigger disconnect was functional. The trigger pull was tested and found to be over 12 lbs. The ME concluded there was no way the victim could have pulled that trigger a second time with the first shot already incapacitating, so the death was ruled homicide.

The SD series triggers are supposed to be more M&P-like and are (to the best of my knowledge) still in production.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Sigmas are mostly notorious for their long, heavy, gritty, downright terrible trigger pulls. Widely regarded as one of the worst handgun triggers of all time.

Even worse than the HK VP70? (The original polymer frame gun)
What a POS that trigger was!

A guy I worked with bought one after getting a scare from a road-rager. Best thing I could say about it was neither of his kids could pull the trigger working even working together!

I have an SD. 2.0. Bought it to keep at a friends house out of state so I dont have to check a gun at the airport when I go see him. Paid $279 for it.
Trigger is pretty good and its somewhat reliable. Has an odd habit of ejecting the magazine when the gun is in my holster. Fixable probably, but dont be tempted by the SDs low price. Avoid it.

I was at the Remington Factory in New York for an Armorers class shortly after the express line was introduced. I watched the workers draw the internal parts from the same bins as the higher grade 870’s.
The only difference on those early guns was eliminating several external polishing stages and a cheaper wood stock to save money.
Later came the drastic cheapening up of the express line. The older express guns had a darker black finish and less visible machining marks and the newer had a more gray finish.

My story isn't really a quality issue, but a trigger system. The Sig DAK I had on a 220 carry. The single action was great but I don't know what that heavy second pull was about. Loved the gun but just couldn't work through the DAK.Wish it would have been sa/da. Sorry if off topic.

The first large bore pistol I owned was a Colt Compact 1911. Think Officer’s Model except parkerized finish. That thing didn’t seem to like ANY ammunition.