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We are not what we were taught we were.


Many of us are simply not what previous generations taught that we ought to be.

Were they alive today, my grandparents would be jerkin' knots and spankin' butts.




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It was demonstrated to us that civilization is indeed only a veneer. We learned first hand how people can be manipulated with fear and hate, which allowed societies to go along with tyrants until it was far too late to stop them, and terrible things followed. The statements from government officials and regular citizens against those who questioned the narrative should never be forgotten. Those people were calling for our deaths and misery.

I believe the casualties from the last 3+ years will be similar to the atrocities of the last century. Huge numbers died because of government restrictions on treatments. Many have already died or been grievously harmed by the jabs, and the future death toll will be staggering.
 
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It was demonstrated to us that civilization is indeed only a veneer. We learned first hand how people can be manipulated with fear and hate, which allowed societies to go along with tyrants until it was far too late to stop them, and terrible things followed. The statements from government officials and regular citizens against those who questioned the narrative should never be forgotten. Those people were calling for our deaths and misery.

I believe the casualties from the last 3+ years will be similar to the atrocities of the last century. Huge numbers died because of government restrictions on treatments. Many have already died or been grievously harmed by the jabs, and the future death toll will be staggering.


And yet, despite all evidence to the contrary, the assholes double down at every opportunity insisting that the snake oil somehow increases immunity; it has been scientifically proven that those that got it are more likely to get it again and again, but the lies continue. Cases are declining. Deaths are declining. And most importantly, uptake of their garbage “vaccine” is declining; an abysmal 20% of those that were duped to begin with.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/mo...ittle-protection.amp

Most US adults are declining COVID boosters as CDC warns of health risks: 'Relatively little protection'

Adults who aren’t current on their COVID-19 vaccine booster doses may have "relatively little remaining protection" against hospitalization compared to those who haven’t been vaccinated at all, suggests a new study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The study spanned multiple states and examined more than 85,000 hospitalizations of people with "COVID-like illness."

Dr. Shana Johnson, a physical medicine and rehabilitation physician in Scottsdale, Arizona, was not involved in the CDC study but reviewed its findings.

The good news, Johnson said, is that the bivalent mRNA vaccine protects against the most severe COVID-19 outcomes, including hospitalization and critical disease (ICU admission and death), Johnson said.

The not-so-good news: The durability or duration of protection was not great, she noted.

"For adults, the vaccine effectiveness dropped from 62% at two months after vaccination to 24% at four to six months for protection against COVID-19 hospitalization," Johnson said.

"Durability was better for preventing critical COVID-19 disease, at 50% at four to six months after vaccination."

The vaccine was found to be effective for longer periods in people without immunocompromising conditions (weakened immune systems).

"These data support updated recommendations allowing additional optional bivalent COVID-19 vaccine doses for certain high-risk populations," the CDC stated in a discussion of the study findings on its website.

"All eligible persons should stay up to date with recommended COVID-19 vaccines."

Despite the CDC’s September 2022 recommendation that all vaccinated people 12 years and older should receive a booster dose, the vast majority of Americans have not received it.

As of May 10, 2023, only one in five (20.5%) U.S. adults had received a bivalent booster dose.

And most of that group had received their last vaccine dose more than a year ago, the CDC reported in the study findings.

"Uptake has been quite low," Dr. Marc Siegel, professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center, told Fox News Digital.

"It makes complete sense for adults — especially those in high-risk groups, including the elderly and those with chronic disease — to have a bivalent shot if they haven't already had one."

Dr. Siegel was not involved in the CDC's study.

While cases and deaths continue to decline in the U.S., Siegel warned that "COVID is still with us," citing the "huge" outbreak currently happening in China.

"Here in the U.S., with XBB subvariants still predominating, we do have a lot more population immunity than China does," he noted.

"That immunity is due to both prior infection as well as vaccination," he said.

"But the vaccine effect on decreasing severity or preventing long COVID is not forever — after a year, that effect has certainly declined significantly," he also said.

"This study looked at the durability, or how long the bivalent mRNA vaccine protects people from hospitalization and critical illness from COVID-19," Johnson told Fox News Digital.

What the study did not evaluate was previous COVID-19 infection or natural immunity, she explained.

"The authors note that since a large portion of the population has experienced COVID, they have some level of protection from natural immunity, but the vaccine provides additional benefit," she said.

"Natural immunity confers a benefit, but the vaccine provides broader coverage, which protects against more variants."




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Plandemic: The great awakening is now out

You can watch it here. FREE. There is a lot to think about in this movie.

https://freedomplatform.tv/pla...ack&utm_medium=email



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Plandemic: The great awakening is now out

You can watch it here. FREE. There is a lot to think about in this movie.

https://freedomplatform.tv/pla...ack&utm_medium=email


Here is a direct link to all 3 of the Plandemic series videos.

https://plandemicseries.com/


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We are not what we were taught we were.


Many of us are simply not what previous generations taught that we ought to be.

Were they alive today, my grandparents would be jerkin' knots and spankin' butts.




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My theory is this: Way back in the dark ages when I first learned how to give an intramuscular injection, our instructor at Ft. Sam, a SSG who's name I've long since forgotten (but he had a speech impediment that I'll never forget), beat into our heads that you ALWAYS aspirate (draw back on the syringe plunger) before injecting the medication/vaccine. This was to ensure that you were not injecting into a vessel. I have queried many different nurses of many different ages who state that they never learned that technique. I even talked with a recent new graduate RN who said that it was definitely not taught to her. What this might be is injections of these vaccines intravascularly vs. intramuscularly.

Just a theory, but it makes sense.


my theory is this: they used several different mixes of the vaccine, some more 'potent', some less (they don't want everybody to die at the same time), the general populace was used as guinea pigs, they'll get it right, next time


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https://m.theepochtimes.com/mk...0PsWvNSnJonpoWLHg%3D

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FDA Makes Unexpected Ivermectin Announcement | Facts Matter

It seems like the messaging that’s coming down to us, the American citizens, from our own federal government resembles the world of George Orwell’s 1984 more and more.

Case in point: over on the FDA’s website, they maintain a page called: “Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19”

However, when you dig into it, you’ll find that the clinical trials that the FDA points to (the ones that are listed on that page) say the exact opposite.

As ridiculous as it sounds: the FDA claims that ivermectin does not work against COVID-19… but, in order to prove that point, they link to studies which say that it does.




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Reality and truth mean nothing to these people. Posturing, punishment and control is all they know.

White House mandating face masks, social distancing for unvaccinated 'College Athlete Day' guests


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I guess I wouldn’t be attending “College Athlete Day”, then.

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Hold up…on second thought, I’d be there maskless and “close-talking” anyone with whom I came in contact. They asking for “my papers” at the door? Yeah! I’m vaccinated! Just not with their propaganda snake shit oil……



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COVID-19 Was a Biological 9/11

Given the statements of senior Chinese leaders over the last decade, Beijing clearly believes that weaponized biotechnology is the silver bullet to wage war indirectly against America and its allies.
By Brandon J. Weichert
June 3, 2023

https://amgreatness.com/2023/0...s-a-biological-9-11/

COVID-19: A 'biological 9/11'
By John Dale Dunn

This June 3 remarkable essay by Brandon Weichert, former congressional staffer and essayist, author, and geopolitical analyst, is adapted from a book he wrote on Chinese ambitions and commitment to world dominance, Biohacked: China's Race to Control Life (Encounter, 272 pages, $30.99).

He opens his discourse on the Chicom attack by quoting People's Army officials in a 2015 document, "The Unnatural Origins of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons." They stated, "Coronaviruses can be "artificially manipulated into an emerging human disease virus, then weaponized and unleashed in a way never seen before."

Then comes an in-depth history of the Wuhan Lab, which explains why and how Wuhan became a bioweapon lab (yes, it did become a bioweapons lab):

  • China did not want, nor could it be successful in, a traditional war, and China wanted and needed international trade.
  • Xi knew that Donald Trump had a large army of domestic enemies who hated him.
  • A biological attack would be bloodless, be less risky, and give opportunities to Trump's enemies, China's friends.
  • Wuhan took so long (15 years) to build because China continually made it so it could be a bioweapons producer when it was supposed to be for civilian research (BSL-4 designation).
  • A French firm, RTV (indirectly owned by China), provided the tech for the Wuhan lab, and French intelligence knew and continued to warn about the Wuhan lab having bioweapons capability.
  • The nature of the COVID-19 virus is a virulent respiratory virus modified by gain of function genetic manipulation to be lethal and infectious for humans and transmitted human to human.

The lab was built for bioweapons research. Mr. Weichert provides the evidence, and the machinations, in detail.

Is there any wonder why? China wanted an alternative way to come out on top. Commie China had wasted millions of people in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution purges of Mao — sure, the people running China would put their own population at risk for the long-game strategy of putting a hit on the West and particularly Trump. Then they could return to their commitment to world dominance and the beneficial relationships they enjoyed with their Western quislings.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._biological_911.html



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Dave Rubin talks about tennis pro Novak Djokovic and includes a clip where Novak is interviewed by a BBC journalist about Novak's refusal to be vaccinated and its consequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnWTQaMsY5s

For those that don't follow tennis Novak was refused to allow to participate in the Australian open tennis tournament last year and was kicked out of the country.

He also wasn't allowed to come into the US without proof of vaccination through most of the spring. He can return to the U.S. now.

What's happened since then is that Novak returned to Australia earlier this year and won the Australian open and just this past Sunday won the French open.

I know some of this has been posted before, I thought I would include another follow up post and I particularly wanted to include his interview with the BBC journalist.


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^^^ I'm glad he kicked ass!




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I've not seen it posted - but "The Sunday Times" on June 4th published an article "What really went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid Erupted"

it's behind a paywall - but if you could take every ridiculed conspiracy theory wrap it into one story - this would probably cover all of them.

They have some tidbits on Twitter: The Times and The Sunday Times

Chinese Military researches were involved side by side with the Wuhan researchers.
Actively researching different means of creating bio-warfare pathogens
Funding from the US
Accidental infection gets out in the wild.

I've picked up bits of it - but it's funny how there doesn't seem to be a peep about this anywhere but the UK, AUS and India.

The Times isn't known as a sensationalist paper either.
 
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Not giving up. I wonder how many places will make this one mandatory for students or employees?


FDA advisers consider changing COVID vaccine to target latest omicron strain

https://wcyb.com/news/nation-w...ange-vaccine-makers#

The COVID-19 vaccines are on track for a big recipe change this fall.

Today's vaccines still contain the original coronavirus strain, the one that started the pandemic — even though that was long ago supplanted by mutated versions as the virus rapidly evolves.

Thursday, the Food and Drug Administration's scientific advisers reviewed whether the next round of shots in the U.S. should only include protection against the newest variants that are now dominant worldwide — a branch of the omicron family tree named XBB.

While infections have declined, the virus could be a real concern next winter, FDA's vaccine chief Dr. Peter Marks said as the daylong meeting began.

"We're concerned that we may have another wave of COVID-19 during a time when the virus has further evolved, immunity of the population has waned further, and we move indoors for wintertime," he said.

Here are some things to know:

WHY ANOTHER ROUND OF SHOTS?

The FDA told Americans to expect an updated fall vaccine against COVID-19, just like they get a new flu shot every fall. Even though most of the population has either been infected or had at least one round of vaccinations, the coronavirus keeps churning out new varieties.

What's in use in the U.S. now are combination shots from Pfizer and Moderna that mix the original strain with protection against last year's most common omicron variants, called BA.4 and BA.5. But just 17% of Americans rolled up their sleeves for a combo booster.

And while the FDA did allow seniors and others at high risk to get an extra booster dose this spring, most people will be many months beyond their last shot by fall.

Those currently available shots do still help prevent severe disease and death even as XBB variants have taken over. But protection gradually wanes over time and was short-lived against milder infection even before the virus, inevitably, evolved again.

“We need a better vaccine. We should be updating it,” said one adviser, Dr. Eric Rubin, an infectious disease doctor at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.

SHARPENING PROTECTION

Last year when regulators were struggling to decide how to update the vaccine, a combo shot seemed like the safest bet. Omicron was pretty new, and there was no way to know how long it would stick around or if the next big coronavirus change would more resemble the original strain.

Now, "there's no reason really to keep the original strain in there," said Dr. Rachel Presti, an infectious disease specialist at Washington University in St. Louis. She is not on the FDA panel.

Doing so actually has a downside called "imprinting." After repeated exposure to the original strain, people's immune systems tended to recognize and respond more strongly to it than to the half of the new booster dose that was brand new.

So the FDA is leaning toward dropping the original strain and picking a fall shot recipe that targets just XBB. The hope is that the XBB variants are different enough to spark the immune system to make more diverse, cross-protective virus-fighting antibodies.

The World Health Organization's vaccine advisers and European regulators recently made similar recommendations.

PREDICTING WHAT WILL HIT THIS WINTER

Another challenge: Deciding which XBB variant to target — since what's spreading now likely will have mutated again by winter.

Regulators will be making their best guess, just like they do every year in setting the recipe for the fall flu vaccine.

The FDA has identified three XBB subtypes as the top strain choices. Vaccine makers already have been developing XBB-targeted formulas, and FDA's outside advisers on Thursday will review new data on how well those choices rev up the immune system.

HOW MANY MORE SHOTS?

The FDA's advisers will debate that, too. Older adults and others at high risk because of seriously weak immune systems continue to have the highest rates of hospitalization from COVID-19 even as cases have declined. One question is whether they'll be urged to get a single fall shot or be eligible for more than one.

Another is how many doses the youngest children who've never been vaccinated would need.

Ultimately, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will make the final recommendations.


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I listen to Joe Rogan’s podcast frequently. Try to find time to listen to his show with RFK Jr., it’s an incredible show. Learned a lot about Kennedy and the concerted effort by the Democrats and MSM to marginalize him; he’s not an “anti-vaxxer.” What you’ll learn is that he, reluctantly, became involved in lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies over additives in vaccines. Really an incredible discussion all around. I’ll add, Fauci and Bill Gates are much worse people than I imagined.


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Pretty much every normal person I know has put Covid in the rear view mirror. Nobody, and I mean nobody talks about it, puts on silly useless masks, or even talks about boosters. Unless one is in a truly leftist loony region, it seems like nobody believes they are necessary- hence the pharmanazis drive to sell more fear to get them back on the needle teat. I sincerely hope the world doesn’t fall into the annual flu shot style trap they are laying with Covid snake oil “vaccines”.




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In our travels this year I have noticed definite trends. In Seattle about 1 in 10 to 1 in 15 were wearing masks. Generally younger than about 40. Elsewhere in the USA it is more like 1 in 100 at most, and generally it is older people who are wearing an N95.

Usually in groups if one is wearing a mask then they all are. Group-think in action. Most are wearing useless non-N95 masks, and usually using terrible technique which makes them worse than useless for spreading disease (touching the mask all the time while in dirty public places like airports or on trains).

When there is a masked family including pre-teen children, the parents have that progressive liberal look in their clothing and hair, and they seem scared of the world. They carefully segregate their kids from everybody else. They speak quietly.

In our old-people activities like cruises and group tours the chatter is generally fuck Fauci, screw the fear, and the pandemic revealed the world has gone mad.
 
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