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So if Rutgers is mandating us to get the vaccine and something happens to one of the students as a result, who is responsible here?

The person receiving the vaccine is 100% responsible. Nobody is forcing them to take it, and they know that all of those involved in the process are 100% immune from liability.

That 'has not' been proven in court just yet. Big Pharma may have total protection from liability, but I tend to agree with a number of the legal eagles I read about online that have suggested both employers and colleges, and any other groups with significant control over a person's life and future, may indeed be open to legal liability if they forced people to take a vaccine to maintain a substantial piece of their lives if that person later has a negative outcome as a result of taking said vaccine. I hope that works out to be the case, and that huge lawsuits result from the actions of all these entities.

New Zealand Coronavirus Restrictions Stay: PM Jacinda Ardern Says ‘Battle’ Just Begun

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...s-battle-just-begun/

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced Monday her left-wing Labour government won’t lift coronavirus restrictions until they are “well beyond” the peak of the virus, speaking even as anti-mandate protest numbers continue to swell in the capital.

Ardern has predicted that coronavirus case numbers are likely to peak mid-late March, but restrictions including reporting who you meet with in public via the NZ COVID-19 Tracer app, social distancing from people you don’t know, vaccine passes and mandatory vaccinations will remain until further notice.

The leader has claimed the vaccine passports resulted in New Zealand avoiding “more general restrictions across the whole population”, and insisted the current measures including vaccine passes are “temporary.”

Ardern, a former president of the International Union of Socialist Youth who mysteriously blamed “imported” forces for driving protests in her country, also highlighted despite the measures being “temporary” she has stated they will “remain important in some areas though, for some time”.

“Now is not the time to dismantle our hard work and preparation, to remove our armour just as the battle begins” Ardern insisted at a press conference on Monday, the Guardian reports.

The Labour leader also attempted to chastise the anti-coronavirus restrictions protestors who have remained outside New Zealand’s parliament for the last two weeks by suggesting protestors should be “celebrating” that the restrictions were in place “rather than protesting”.

While New Zealand has had record low numbers of coronavirus deaths and cases, with 32,927 cases detected in total and 53 deaths overall, around 50 percent of NZ’s cases (16,356) are currently present in the local community, raising concerns about a lack of natural immunity to the virus as a consequence of strict coronavirus restrictions.

The Wellington Freedom Convoy has remained outside the New Zealand Parliament for the last 14 days, with police being forced to take a softer approach with protestors after a crackdown attempt which saw 120 arrested backfired when a video showing a naked woman being dragged by her hair by police officers went viral and brought widespread condemnation on the police.

Freedom convoy numbers are said to have significantly swollen in size, with around 800 vehicles blocking the roads around the parliament over the weekend as Kiwis from across the country arrived to show their support.

New Zealand’s police have however begun an operation to starve the protestors of support after they placed concrete blocks around the protest in the early hours of Monday morning in an effort to prevent more vehicles from arriving.

Protestors are reported to have clashed with the around 300 police officers during this operation. Eight protestors were arrested and seven police officers injured, with some protestors allegedly throwing human faeces at the officers.

Despite the clashes on the streets of Wellington, Ardern refuses to brook any criticism for her actions against the Freedom Convoy, as exchanges with local media confirm:

The Wellington Parliament freedom convoy has pledged to remain in place “as long as it takes” for Ardern to lift the restrictions, while Ardern insists the convoy will not have an impact on her decision to lift restrictions.

New Zealand Police Commissioner Andrew Coster has claimed to have been in touch with Canadian authorities after they passed emergency powers leading to the violent removal of the three week-long Ottawa freedom convoy by riot gear clad police officers over the weekend.

Well, if Trudeau gets run out of Canada he might have a nice new home and job waiting for him in New Zealand.

CDC admits it withheld data from the public because they didn't want to create vaccine hesitancy

This is from the NY Times. The truth is the data didn't support their narrative so they hid it. Do you think they would hide the data if it showed the vaccines worked? Of course not!

Steve Kirsch

CDC admits it withheld unfavorable data

Here’s the story in the NY Times which says:

Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.”

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But the C.D.C. has been routinely collecting information since the Covid vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/0.../covid-cdc-data.html

Here’s a tweet about it:

@NBSaphierMDNicole Saphier, MD @NBSaphierMD
The CDC’s response when questioned about their withholding of Covid data and lack of transparency is essentially “we don’t trust you to be able to understand the truth.”

The condescension is palpable.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...-from?utm_source=url

Hiding the data to avoid vaccine hesitancy is literally the opposite of informed consent. Doesn't matter if that information supports or doesn't support the safe and effective narrative, they have admitted to violating The Nuremberg Code and every other moral and ethical medical standard they're sworn to uphold.

And here's the crazy thing. Dr. Nicole Saphire thinks it means the wheels are coming off, but really nobody is going to care. And by nobody I mean the cabal that has pushed the mass vaccination as the solution to everything narrative, which includes the NY Times. The NY Times will do nothing to further investigate this because they believe and agree with the CDC's reasoning/excuse.

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They withhold data if it does not support their narrative.

From the article:

Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.”

Another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted, Ms. Nordlund said.

“The C.D.C. is a political organization as much as it is a public health organization,” said Samuel Scarpino, managing director of pathogen surveillance at the Rockefeller Foundation’s Pandemic Prevention Institute.

Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire for not tracking so-called breakthrough infections in vaccinated Americans, and focusing only on individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk comparisons with unvaccinated adults, rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients stratified by age, sex, race and vaccination status.

Ms. Nordlund confirmed that as one of the reasons. Another reason, she said, is that the data represents only 10 percent of the population of the United States. But the C.D.C. has relied on the same level of sampling to track influenza for years.

Some outside public health experts were stunned to hear that information exists.

“We have been begging for that sort of granularity of data for two years,” said Jessica Malaty Rivera, an epidemiologist and part of the team that ran Covid Tracking Project, an independent effort that compiled data on the pandemic till March 2021.

A detailed analysis, she said, “builds public trust, and it paints a much clearer picture of what’s actually going on.”

Concern about the misinterpretation of hospitalization data broken down by vaccination status is not unique to the C.D.C. On Thursday, public health officials in Scotland said they would stop releasing data on Covid hospitalizations and deaths by vaccination status because of similar fears that the figures would be misrepresented by anti-vaccine groups.

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Biden Extends US National Emergency Over COVID-19

I was wondering when this pathetic old man would double down like that.

And the UK is officially ending ALL Covid restrictions as of Thursday 24 March

It actually makes a lot of sense for the CDC to hide the data. If the data shows the vaccines to be ineffective, people could used their scientific data as mis/dis/mal information. Can't have facts get in the way of the plan, whatever it is.

I hear people say it's about money, or God knows what else, but seriously, what in the world could the goal be here?

I understood when the medicine was effective against original strains, but it's no longer effective, why is there still a push for it? I can think of some kind of weird conspiracy theories like protection from eminent alien invasion, or aliens have already arrived and infiltrated the government and they are genetically modifying us to make good hosts. Literally any reason I think of to continue the push seems about as silly as aliens.

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So if Biden said that there is no “federal solution to Covid”, why is the doddering old fuck preaching about an unnecessary emergency extension? I’d love to see that old traitor drop dead so he can’t enjoy his ill gotten gain for even a second longer.

Money, believe he's asking for more...

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I hear people say it's about money, or God knows what else, but seriously, what in the world could the goal be here?

Twofold. One, it is about the money. Enormous amounts of money. From Big Pharma, to their shareholders, to large corporations, to the billionaire elite, to the politicians they 'own', everyone is getting insanely wealthy off this bug. And two, with the amount of money we're talking about comes enormous power. The politicians are drunk with it. It's given them the basis on which to do things and push others they would have never considered in years gone by. At this point I think the goal is to drag this out as long as possible to squeeze every dollar possible out of the system, and to establish just how far the population as a whole can be pushed and how much they'll accept before substantial push back occurs.

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I understood when the medicine was effective against original strains...

I wouldn't be so quick with that comment. Until some trusted group can provide verifiable data confirming the effectiveness of these vaccines for their advertised purposes, I'm not believing a word of it. None of these medical 'experts' are credible, and most suffer from a total lack of ethics and honesty.

Face it, we've been (and continue to be) scammed for two and a half years by those at the top of the political, economic, and societal structure to pad their pockets and expand their control of this country. And unfortunately for all of us, its worked quite well for them to date.

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CDC admits it withheld data from the public because they didn't want to create vaccine hesitancy

Though I hate to use the term, this is a 'bombshell' story everyone should be reviewing. If you had any reason whatsoever to trust the CDC previously, this should eliminate that trust totally. Talk about third world behavior. The CDC, just like the ATF, should be defunded and disbanded as neither provides any value whatsoever to those paying their bills.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I hear people say it's about money, or God knows what else, but seriously, what in the world could the goal be here?

Twofold. One, it is about the money. Enormous amounts of money. From Big Pharma, to their shareholders, to large corporations, to the billionaire elite, to the politicians they 'own', everyone is getting insanely wealthy off this bug. And two, with the amount of money we're talking about comes enormous power. The politicians are drunk with it. It's given them the basis on which to do things and push others they would have never considered in years gone by. At this point I think the goal is to drag this out as long as possible to squeeze every dollar possible out of the system, and to establish just how far the population as a whole can be pushed and how much they'll accept before substantial push back occurs.

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I understood when the medicine was effective against original strains...

I wouldn't be so quick with that comment. Until some trusted group can provide verifiable data confirming the effectiveness of these vaccines for their advertised purposes, I'm not believing a word of it. None of these medical 'experts' are credible, and most suffer from a total lack of ethics and honesty.

Face it, we've been (and continue to be) scammed for two and a half years by those at the top of the political, economic, and societal structure to pad their pockets and expand their control of this country. And unfortunately for all of us, its worked quite well for them to date.

Sounds about like aliens to me, who knows, maybe there's a secret big pharma consortium that controls the globe in control of thing? I am certain individual politicians are in the pockets of a company or industry, and also that they'd frame their testing and data (of which we can't even verify or see) in the best light possible, but I'm sure there's not some global conspiracy. I'm more likely to believe a global psychosis combined with power hungry politicians.

They do not want a large control group of unvaccinated people so no comparative data can be drawn ten years from now so everyone even children must get the shot. And as always there's the money.

CDC Admits They are Keeping Vaccine and COVID Data Hidden Because They Worry People Will Talk About It

The New York Times reports quotes from the CDC spokesperson about why the public health organization refuses to release data on COVID-19 and the vaccines. Nothing quite builds public confidence like the CDC saying they cannot release information because they are worried people will talk about it.

The CDC basically says they do not want to release the data because they are worried people will talk about the data, and not the official CDC interpretation of the data. So, the CDC says, trust us… we’ve looked at the data… it says good things, promise.

(New York Times) […] Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.” Another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted, Ms. Nordlund said.

[…] The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public.

[…] the C.D.C. has been routinely collecting information since the Covid vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.

Ms. Nordlund confirmed that as one of the reasons. Another reason, she said, is that the data represents only 10 percent of the population of the United States. But the C.D.C. has relied on the same level of sampling to track influenza for years. (read more)

If the vaccines are effective, they cannot be misinterpreted as being ineffective. However, if the data shows the vaccines are ineffective, which at this point almost everyone admits they are, then the question becomes what were all of the mandates about?

The CDC has become yet another institution, amid a network of institutions, that has collapsed itself under the weight of pushing political ideology as the primary mission. Entrenched ideological political bureaucrats being exposed in the system is the brilliant legacy of Donald J Trump.

The CDC joins the FDA, DHS, HHS, FBI, DOJ, DoS, Pentagon and the larger intelligence apparatus as collapsing under their institutional ideology.

We were always rightly skeptical of these institutions of government. However, now a much larger audience sees them naked and exposed.

https://theconservativetreehou...bout-it/#more-228166

I recall a member here last summer saying "I am the control group".

Me too!

Every other highly vaccinated country in the world that actually released data showed a lot of hospitilizations and death among the vaccinated,especially in the last few months.

The United States was an outlier in this regard.Now we know why.

Yup, more evidence (as if we needed more ) that the US Government is corrupt, and driven by political ideology.

I'll NEVER believe ANYTHING they say EVER again!

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Biden Extends US National Emergency Over COVID-19

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Boris Johnson ends all coronavirus restrictions in England

ASSOCIATED PRESS
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is scrapping the last domestic coronavirus restrictions in England, including the requirement for people with COVID-19 to self-isolate

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Berkeley County WV school district (my sons school included) just announced this evening that they are going to a mask optional status. About damn time.