First mask mandate overturned, then judge speeds it up. Loudoun County falls to new law.

Judge orders Loudoun County schools to allow students to attend without masks Thursday

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Originally posted by chellim1:
^^^ That's exactly right, Ripley.

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the insurers and gov't bureaucrats having their feet on the medical profession's neck.

My parents are of the age that they trust their doctors completely. And, as bigdeal points out, I think this pandemic has changed that going forward.

The hospitals now own many/most of the medical practices which used to be independent. The hospitals tell them how to practice. They are told to follow the script.

The hospitals, in turn are controlled by their .gov regulators who can control the flow of funds. If you accept government funding of any kind (medicare, medicaid) the government calls the tune.

The regulators, in turn are controlled by Big Pharma which provides Big Money in multiple forms as illustrated by the Project Veritas interview with the FDA exec. It's called "regulatory capture" and it means the regulators are influenced by money from the regulated.

The result: Your doctor no longer works for you. You don't write the check.

That was the feeling I got when I got my checkup last September. No longer trust my doctor or the medical industry.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
First mask mandate overturned, then judge speeds it up. Loudoun County falls to new law.

Judge orders Loudoun County schools to allow students to attend without masks Thursday

Great news for VA. Youngkin has a lot of work to do and this is a good start.

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That was the feeling I got when I got my checkup last September. No longer trust my doctor or the medical industry.

Same when I had my physical last October. I just don't trust them. There always seems to be a push for prescriptions. Back then I remember saying in this thread I was reluctant to get a flu shot because I didn't trust it would be just a flu shot. I didn't get one.

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I just don't trust them. There always seems to be a push for prescriptions. Back then I remember saying in this thread I was reluctant to get a flu shot because I didn't trust it would be just a flu shot. I didn't get one.

Same here. First time in several years I didn't get a flu shot. I also don't like that they push so many pills on people. I just don't trust the medical establishment anymore. I know... there are still good docs out there. But as I posted above, the incentives are not aligned with the patient.

The Decline of American Medicine
By Anthony Matoria

The COVID pandemic has highlighted concerning trends in the way medicine is practiced in the United States. These trends have been present for long time, predating the appearance of COVID, but their pernicious nature has become more apparent under the stresses and anxieties associated with the virus.

The fundamental and most deleterious trend is the decline of the physician/patient relationship. There are many causes for this — some economic, some cultural, some ideological — but the cumulative effect is corrosive.

https://www.americanthinker.co...erican_medicine.html

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That was the feeling I got when I got my checkup last September. No longer trust my doctor or the medical industry.

Same when I had my physical last October. I just don't trust them. There always seems to be a push for prescriptions. Back then I remember saying in this thread I was reluctant to get a flu shot because I didn't trust it would be just a flu shot. I didn't get one.

My doctor prescribed statins for cholesterol levels slightly out of range. I researched guidelines for statin prescribing, and according to my research, no way should I be taking them. I wouldn't take them even if truly was a candidate.

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Same when I had my physical last October. I just don't trust them. There always seems to be a push for prescriptions. Back then I remember saying in this thread I was reluctant to get a flu shot because I didn't trust it would be just a flu shot. I didn't get one.

Yep. I can't be expected to create trust in the medical community out of whole cloth. It's not even a two way street. It's up to the medicos to earn my trust, no matter where my head is. That's their job. That's what my PCP will hear our next visit.

Philly just dropped their entire vaccine passport bullshit to get into a restaurant, but it looks like they want to keep masks forever now.

I can only imagine all the meetings that these restaurant owners and restaurant groups had with City Council, they had to be bleeding tons of money over all this nonsense.

With that being said, you couldn’t pay me to travel to go eat in that shit hole any longer, I just don’t want to get assaulted or shot.

Saw a blurb earlier that the Virginia arm of the ACLU is suing Gov Youngkin to keep school mask mandates in place.

U.S. Court Orders Further Review of United Airlines Vaccine Mandate

https://www.usnews.com/news/to...ines-vaccine-mandate

Now that the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has established "Irreparable Harm" has been achieved, the case essentially returns back to the same lower court (Judge Mark Pittman's court) for ruling on the Preliminary Injunction. Continued prayers for our success is still GREATLY appreciated.

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Continued prayers for our success is still GREATLY appreciated.

You bet!
.. And pray for our military members, including my son-in-law, who are being 'separated' (kicked out) for refusing the jab. He just got the word that his appeal was denied.

^^^^^
Well...hopefully that tide will turn as well. My O-6 brother is in the middle of his paperwork. He's trying to drown them in appeal after appeal and run out the clock to his separation date of 1-JUL.

Thanks for your support!!

His Lordship, Jay Inslee has decreed a loosening of the mask mandates here in Washington. Probably has nothing to do with the shenanigans going on up in Soviet Canukistan encouraging folks down here to tell the gooberment to eat various genitalia from bags. Doesn't go into effect until March 21st, so the pessimist in me tells me that they'll have a new surge, or variant, or whatever and they can say "Sike! Put that chin diaper back on, loser!"

So we'll see soon enough. Still, fuck Jay Inslee, and fuck those silky soft pussies that gobble up his every word, and wrap themselves in blankets made from this bullshit propaganda. And fuck the "authorities" for the theft of two years, for the destruction of small businesses, and fuck you for ruining a generation of children with your panic porn, a whole generation that wont be able to go outside or walk around in public without freaking out someone might cough in their direction and murder everyone they love. Just because the mandates end, doesn't mean it's the end, we haven't seen the real damage, and the perpetrators will never get their justice in this life. I hope there's a Hell, because a bunch of these scumbags deserve it.

Anyhow, I'm pretty excited to do some day adventures with my girlfriend again.

Go ahead, jerkoff. Brag about being the "first state" to reach the endemic phase. Never mind those red states like Florida that are just living life instead of wasting billions of dollars on some ridiculous endemic dystopian plan.

What a horrific joke.

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California adopts nation’s 1st ‘endemic’ virus policy

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California became the first state to formally shift to an “endemic” approach to the coronavirus with Gov. Gavin Newsom’s announcement Thursday of a plan that emphasizes prevention and quick reaction to outbreaks over mandated masking and business shutdowns.

The milestone, nearly two years in the making, envisions a return to a more normal existence with the help of a variety of initiatives and billions in new spending to more quickly spot surges or variants, add health care workers, stockpile tests and push back against false claims and other misinformation.

“We are moving past the crisis phase into a phase where we will work to live with this virus,” he said during a news conference from a state warehouse brimming with pandemic supplies in Fontana, east of Los Angeles.

The first-term Democrat, who last year survived a recall election driven by critics of his governance during the pandemic, promised the state’s nearly 40 million residents that as the omicron surge fades, “we’re going to keep them safe and we’re going to stay on top of this.”

A disease reaches the endemic stage when the virus still exists in a community but becomes manageable as immunity builds. But there will be no definitive turn of the switch, the Democratic governor said, unlike the case with Wednesday’s lifting of the state’s indoor masking requirements or an announcement coming Feb. 28 of when precisely schoolchildren can stop wearing face coverings.

And there will be no immediate lifting of the dozens of remaining executive emergency orders that have helped run the state since Newsom imposed the nation’s first statewide stay-home order in March 2020.

“This pandemic won’t have a defined end. There’s no finish line,” Newsom said.

Newsom’s plan sets specific goals, such as stockpiling 75 million masks, establishing the infrastructure to provide up to 200,000 vaccinations and 500,000 tests a day in the event of an outbreak, and adding 3,000 medical workers within three weeks in surge areas.

Newsom’s administration came up with a shorthand acronym to capsulize key elements of its new approach: SMARTER. The letters stand for Shots, Masks, Awareness, Readiness, Testing, Education and Rx , a reference to improving treatments for COVID-19. (Assholes)


Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, an epidemiologist at the University of Southern California, said while some may argue these should have come sooner, he believes “the timing is right on.”

“Surveillance, testing, vaccination and treatment make the context very different and make it appropriate to shift our response from a pandemic response of trying to do everything possible, to a more rational response to try to implement things that we have strong evidence that work,” Klausner said.

The plan includes increased monitoring of virus remnants in wastewater to watch for the first signs of a surge. Masks won’t be required but will be encouraged in many settings.

If a higher level of the virus is detected, health officials will determine if it is a new variant. If so, state and federal officials have a goal to within 30 days determine if it responds to existing tests, treatments and immunities from vaccines or prior infections.

California’s health secretary, Dr. Mark Ghaly, said one of the goals is to avoid business closures and other far-reaching mandates. However, he said the state’s requirement that schoolchildren be vaccinated against coronavirus by fall remains in effect.

The plan includes new education, including “myth-buster videos” to fight misinformation and disinformation and help interpret ever-evolving precautions for a confused public whiplashed by safeguards that seemingly shift by the day and vary across county lines.

In coordination with the federal government, it calls for a first-in-the-nation study of the pandemic’s direct and indirect impacts long-term on both people and communities.

All this will cost billions , much of it already outlined in the pandemic response package Newsom sought as part of his budget last month. That includes $1.9 million that lawmakers already approved to boost staffing at hospitals and increase coronavirus testing and vaccine distribution, as well as existing money and anticipated federal funds.

His proposed budget also includes $1.7 billion to beef up the state’s health care workforce, with more investment in increased laboratory testing capacity, data collection and outbreak investigation.

Newsom, who has faced criticism for sometimes failing to follow his own rules, defended keeping in place some of his executive emergency orders, which he said most recently have allowed the state to quickly bring in temporary medical workers and to quickly distribute more than 13 million home test kits to schools.

Those orders have dwindled from 561 to fewer than 100 in recent months, he said, and his administration is working with legislative leaders to eventually make them unnecessary.

https://apnews.com/article/cor...eeb334fe1448e87fb74a

ASG, I’ve been reading from some folks that seem to think it coincides with when Biden is supposed to announce he’s defeated COVID. I guess we’ll see. Probably be like last year, give people a taste of freedom and then take it away again two weeks later.

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ASG, I’ve been reading from some folks that seem to think it coincides with when Biden is supposed to announce he’s defeated COVID.

I’ve been seeing and hearing some talk that Dementia Joe is going to do exactly that; declare that “he” defeated Covid at the SOTU on 1 March and all mandates and masking and all the other BS is therefore rescinded and he’ll try to take all the credit and try and revive his dying presidency from the expected popularity boost.

On March 1st we will be told how Al Gore invented the internet and Joe Biden defeated COVID, as well as Magical Unicorns flying in the air.

We’ve all known this was coming- the democRAT trash is going to declare victory over Covid, except that it will never really end. They will “hunt for new variants” and rest assured they will find them and drive their more rabid supporters into a frenzy supporting masks, shots, and whatever horse shit they can get away with. The smart half of the country has been waiting for an end to this erosion of rights and privacy, but the retarded half is begging to be subjugated. It’s sickening.

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ASG, I’ve been reading from some folks that seem to think it coincides with when Biden is supposed to announce he’s defeated COVID.

I’ve been seeing and hearing some talk that Dementia Joe is going to do exactly that; declare that “he” defeated Covid at the SOTU on 1 March and all mandates and masking and all the other BS is therefore rescinded and he’ll try to take all the credit and try and revive his dying presidency from the expected popularity boost.

Anyone else notice how flu numbers are dropping at the end of flu season?
And when it comes back next flu season what will dementia Joe say then?
I guess it will be Trumps fault.

Was just in a gun shop in Olympia. Met with a guy who is retired military and does electrical contracting on Joint Base Lewis-McChord and the subject of the vaccine requirement came up. Turns out there were quite number of active duty folks on base who flat refused to get “vaccinated” and while there was a lot of threatening, he says he hasn’t heard of anyone who got fired over it.

Kudos to all the people who refused and told their employer to stuff it.