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Originally posted by parabellum:
The armpit of America

Let's all go have lunch in Orange, NJ.
I hear it's a happening place.

I would love to buy one of those P229 NJ rejects.

Newark has some of the best Portuguese restaurants around.

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yet they've all functioned just fine once the state emblems were ground off and they were sold

They were never sold.

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Originally posted by mrmn50:
I would love to buy one of those P229 NJ rejects.

I was thinking the same thing, but the way the government of that State thinks, maybe they will destroy them?

downtownv, I meant no offense when I remarked about the training. I want to say this to you because I respect the way you are involved in working toward firearms rights in NJ. I do not like it when I remember what they do to law-abiding gun owners there. It brings back a lot of memories, none of them good.

They are suing for $ 2.5M. Seems like small fry these days.

Eh, that might make it easier to settle than to fight.

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Eh, that might make it easier to settle than to fight

Exactly and admit no wrongdoing. That is a ridiculously low amount in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by David Lee:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
13121 your NJSP 228 is junk, please send to me for destruction.

Whatever the cause, that was way, way to long to fix the problem. SIG f-ed up, refund the money, fix the problem, sell as CPO and eat the difference.

It's 12131 dude. Somewhere, there's a NIB P228 with that serial number. Probably belonged to JP Sauer himself.

Well they can both send me their defective NJSP 228s then.

You try typing on cell phone while sitting on hold on other cell phone with no auto correct.

12131 I'm sorry for the egregious slight. Will you forgive me?

Well, I loaned 13121 the gun, and he disappeared. Can't send it to you for disposal. Sorry.

Grayguns needs to check it out

I don't know how they operate in the factory to produce an order like this, but I am thinking they must have had a special run just for New Jersey SP with the flaw baked in to have this many guns fail. We would have heard about widespread failures in the civilian market if this was a problem spread across the full production of 229's

Sounds like this is on Sig. I saw the artical below. Every one of those 229s should have been test fired at the factory and running perfect. Wonder what happened? http://taskandpurpose.com/new-...usly-defective-guns/

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Originally posted by HayesGreener:
I don't know how they operate in the factory to produce an order like this, but I am thinking they must have had a special run just for New Jersey SP with the flaw baked in to have this many guns fail. We would have heard about widespread failures in the civilian market if this was a problem spread across the full production of 229's

Yes, and something is not right in that batch. It's darn near impossible to make a 9mm self loader and have such a large number with reliability issues. Definately a part design, make and fit problem.

Meanwhile...they switched to Glock 19s and have had no real issues....This one just might be a Sig issue.

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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yet they've all functioned just fine once the state emblems were ground off and they were sold

They were never sold.

I stand corrected. The Jersey State Police ones were stored and later melted down. They didn't have emblems either.

Will they go to Gun Broker or who for resale? LOL

In the long run, It's probably good for consumers and good for SIG that someone is holding them accountable. Is it possible NJ is exaggerating? Sure, but I doubt it. The bad PR will likely sting far more than $2.5M, and going in for future contract sales, SIG better be able to demonstrate improved QC in manufacturing and offer better guarantees, or they may not be invited to compete.

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Originally posted by P210:
New Jersey had a number of AD and self inflicted wound issues when they adopted the P7 years ago, yet they've all functioned just fine once the state emblems were ground off and they were sold off to the public. It was a different manual of arms and adjusting to it was the real problem.

Yeah somehow I don't think going from a 228 to a 229 is going to cause that many issues.

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Originally posted by ArLEOret:
Will they go to Gun Broker or who for resale? LOL

They'll go to who ever pays the biggest kickbacks... Trenton, home of Taylor Ham/ Pork Roll and incredibly corrupt politicians!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The armpit of America

Absolutely and Cali and NY close behind