Imagine the draft were active right now.
Every 18-and up, male and female, is eligible for mandatory military service.
Now imagine the brainwashing that would be going on under the current hate-America, hate white people, hate capitalism administration with its lapdog military leaders.
Fuck that.

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Originally posted by Fenris:
Also, I think two years service requirement would be a good idea as well.

Every year about 10 million males reach the age of 18 in the US. With 2 years of mandatory service for all of them we'll have a standing army of roughly 20 million. OK, 15 if we are super strict on health/fitness requirements. What are we going to do with an army this big in peacetime?

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Every year about 10 million males reach the age of 18 in the US. With 2 years of mandatory service for all of them we'll have a standing army of roughly 20 million. OK, 15 if we are super strict on health/fitness requirements. What are we going to do with an army this big in peacetime?

Community service if the military is at full strength. Build roads, clean up litter, demolish abandoned buildings and clean up empty lots. Learn basic trades and help build/repair homes after a natural disaster. Stand guard at the border. Fight wild fires. There's a ton of productive things young people can do.

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this issue seems to put the dems in a bit of a pickle

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:

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Every year about 10 million males reach the age of 18 in the US. What are we going to do with an army this big in peacetime?

Stand guard at the border.

I like how you think...

Of course, we could repel the invasion, if we had the will to do so.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:

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Every year about 10 million males reach the age of 18 in the US. With 2 years of mandatory service for all of them we'll have a standing army of roughly 20 million. OK, 15 if we are super strict on health/fitness requirements. What are we going to do with an army this big in peacetime?

Community service if the military is at full strength. Build roads, clean up litter, demolish abandoned buildings and clean up empty lots. Learn basic trades and help build/repair homes after a natural disaster. Stand guard at the border. Fight wild fires. There's a ton of productive things young people can do.

So, condition them to being slaves of the central state, waste productive years of their life, and attempt trades which they will not have the training to do well.

I do not intend for my children to be the kind of wastrels who would be improved by 2 years of slavery. The crony class is already abusive enough, now that they have seized all of our money - you wish to get them a large standing body of force inside our borders as well?

Our internal enemy is the Ivy League. Not the poor.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:

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Every year about 10 million males reach the age of 18 in the US. With 2 years of mandatory service for all of them we'll have a standing army of roughly 20 million. OK, 15 if we are super strict on health/fitness requirements. What are we going to do with an army this big in peacetime?

Community service if the military is at full strength. Build roads, clean up litter, demolish abandoned buildings and clean up empty lots. Learn basic trades and help build/repair homes after a natural disaster. Stand guard at the border. Fight wild fires. There's a ton of productive things young people can do.

There is a little fly in that ointment:

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Thirteenth Amendment

Section 1

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

PS. I would never advise my sons to dodge draft for a real military service. But for the servitude you suggest I'd give them a ride all the way to Canada's border and help to cross it.

^^^ Not to mention the tax bill to put them all on the payroll.

The bill is for young men to be automatically registered. Leave the girls/women out of it. I registered for the draft when I was 18 and it was correct that I did so.

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
Not to mention the tax bill to put them all on the payroll.

Having a draft doesn't necessarily mean calling many up to serve. Most will be too busy finding an exemption to registration or purposely flunking out of any induction tests. I suspect most won't meet height/weight/PT standards...by a large margin. I hear Canada is opening its borders to draftees....

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The bill is for young men to be automatically registered. Leave the girls/women out of it. I registered for the draft when I was 18 and it was correct that I did so.

Yep. So did I.

Registration is a prerequisite for a draft, but it's not the draft. And... leave the women out of it.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
So, condition them to being slaves of the central state, waste productive years of their life, and attempt trades which they will not have the training to do well.

I do not intend for my children to be the kind of wastrels who would be improved by 2 years of slavery. The crony class is already abusive enough, now that they have seized all of our money - you wish to get them a large standing body of force inside our borders as well?

Our internal enemy is the Ivy League. Not the poor.

100% correct. Every bit of it. This is not about defending our country anymore, it's about protecting the class that runs everything behind the scenes.

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Originally posted by Fenris:
Currently only men are required to register. The other 56 genders get a pass.

It's 57, you missed one, but wait until tomorrow for an updated count.

Not a believer in military service for all. As someone currently in, we just don't need anymore problems from people who don't want to be here. The long term costs that no one talks about would be immense. Disability fraud is wide and rampant in many who are actually in the military. Ghost injuries and false claims of PTSD to collect disability and trying to get to the magical number of 100% so they don't have to pay property tax (Florida and Texas grant such exemptions) which effectively subsidizes their property tax bill onto others.

What I would propose is 2 years of work in a country that has true poverty so these kids can understand what true poverty is and understand how privileged they are to be in the United States. Poor in America means subsidized phones, cars, food, housing, etc. Poor in many other countries means you go hungry and cold.