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Women should automatically be enrolled just like men. Surprised the auto-enroll hadn't been standard for awhile. While they won't necessarily be fulfilling combat arms rolls, the realty is certain jobs will likely involve some level of direct action; for example various intelligence, linguistics and logistics. There's many rolls and situations where women will be better suited than having men. As an example Shannon Kent not only pioneered female in-beds with direct action units but, was also much more adept at language/interpretation and interrogation than her male counterparts. The crux is knocking-off this flat-rate women can do everything and recognize we ALL have a roll in society, even in our armed forces. | |||
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Women don't get to demand equal access and opportunities in military service, including pilot training and combat assignments, without also having the responsibly to register for the draft. If your sons have to register, so should your daughters, and I say that as the parent of a 19 year old son and a 17 year old daughter. All or none, but not one or the other. | |||
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The crux: “… the bill, it still allocates the annual $300 million to the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative which is used to fund the war in Ukraine. …”. | |||
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| Run Silent Run Deep  |
It’s just two years… Women can go be Mommies and protect whatever the fuck you are talking about after they serve like everyone else. Someone has to make the damn sandwiches for the real fighting men up front!  _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
Sooo, just to clarify, the House bill doesn't include women in the "Automatic Military Draft Registration", but the Senate bill does. Am I reading this correctly? Edit: The Senate bill doesn't include the "automatic" provision, but adds women to Selective Service. So the bill would have to go to conference committee, I THINK. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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...clearing minefields... "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
Mandatory service to DC is BS, and will result in a new form of the HJ. Service in a state militia/state version of the national guard, which cannot be federalized, might have some historical precedent in the U.S. The public school system already wastes far too much of the life of our youth - enslaving them for 2 years will hardly improve matters. | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
If my son wants to volunteer, I say go for it. If they have to draft him because they need bodies for the next global meatgrinder they blunder us into, then I say "fuck no." I have an issue with compulsory service, especially the way our political system has a history of spending service member's lives, but if we're going to enact a draft, then the women can do their part. Having voting rights but not an equal share in the consequences doesn't seem right to me. If 18 year old girls want to vote for the next swamp critter who takes his foreign policy advice from Lockheed Martin and Boeing because he's for "a woman's right to choose," and we end up going to war with a technological peer based on the advice that swamp critter got from his top donors, then I say they can choose which branch they get to serve in when their number gets called up, same as the men. I could be fully behind our young men having to spend two years in their state guard unit, but not the way our guard units were used in OIF. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Chip Roy said it more elegantly than me. http://x.com/chiproytx/status/...bcc93c0963549405ce61 ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Everything except our country, I guess. I have a son and daughter. It should apply to both sexes. There are countless roles for people, who may not be suited for combat, to support the country in times of war. ________________________________________ -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- | |||
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| Uppity Helot |
I disagree with Chip. I am not interested in my Son’s (or any else’s) being used as cannon fodder to boost Raytheon’s quarterly profits. If having the parents of Daughters share the same worry as the parents of Sons with regard to potential conscription, then I think this may help adjust the national tolerance level for foreign intervention. | |||
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| Frangas non Flectes |
100% This would be a good thing. We're far too eager to send off generations of young men every ten years or so, but our daughters? Oh heavens no, anything but sending off Daddy's little girl to go get turned into meat paste in the process of destabilizing some shithole somewhere because they weren't friendly to US business interests. That's a man's job.  ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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I just wanted everyone to read that again because, yeah. | |||
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I have mixed feelings about the draft/Selective Service in general and the potential inclusion of women in particular. No, we really shouldn't send our women to do our fighting. But they have demanded equality and more and more of them have been doing traditionally male jobs for the past ~50 years, so why shouldn't they also be subject to it? Put another, cruder way, as Clint Eastwood playing Dirty Harry said, "If they want to be lumberjacks, they've got to hold up their end of the log." | |||
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| The Main Thing Is Not To Get Excited  |
This is like the jr. hi jab, "hey! let's you and him fight!" I don't see the respect from the executive branch that our soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen deserve. It's not surprising given the number of Ivy know-it-alls in D.C. I don't see the respect in a DOD that wants a woke-balanced force-at-arms. I don't see the respect I expect in the Marines 'hiring' techies as Gunnery Sergeants, when fighting Marines are in barracks in disrepair, or maybe despair is a better word and are stuck at sergeant or staff sergeant, outranked by tech support. These people or their predecessors in those academic jobs that send flesh and blood warriors into harms way have lost whatever respect I ever had for them. Re: Afghanistan withdrawl tragedy: a lieutenant colonel could not, would not clear a shot on a suicide bomber but had to leave the AO to go see if someone could give him clearance and a cookie. Meantime Hadji Baba pushed the switch. Result...no need to print here. No, these people have not earned the right to demand that we send whoever they want in whatever numbers they want to wherever they want to do whatever they want, not by a stretch. _______________________ | |||
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This. I agree one thousand percent. It will be a cold day in hell before I allow my grandsons to go fight in a place like Ukraine. We will move and hide them before that happens. Our government, and I don't mean just Biden, is far too quick to send our young people off to foreign countries to fight a war that has no strategic value to the United States. | |||
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I’ll be the voice of unpopular opinion… I think that every American, male, AND female, should be required to serve two years active duty, and be a permanent reserve member. There should be exceptions for mentally disabled, however even the physically disabled should be required. There are non physical roles that can be filled. Similar to how Israel and Korea (Korea only requires men) have that requirement. You should be allowed to delay your service if you are headed to college, however after x number of years, your service is required. Failure to report for service, you can spend those two years in incarceration, with a mark on your record noting that you failed to serve your country. That should follow you when you apply for a job. It should be a mark that is black enough that it puts you to the end of the hiring line. I’m certain many will disagree. Thank you to those who fought for me to have the freedom to say this. Having our sons AND daughters being put on the front lines, very well may change what bullshit conflicts we get involved in. The “lol” thread | |||
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The Joy Maker |
I dunno why anybody would willingly offer up their sons to our government anymore. The lizards that run this place are too preoccupied with being World Police still, always looking for places to send our best and brightest to get turned into cripples, physical and emotional, or ground up into hamburger. There isn't some great crusade to send them on like World War 2, it's all just a lot of us sticking our noses into places it doesn't belong. You wanna help Israel? You wanna help Ukraine? You wanna help XYZ? Cool, they all take volunteers, and Rosetta Stone has a Father's Day sale, 50% off. Learn a language and join up, over there. 
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