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I don't think Harris is legally qualified. Not a natural-born citizen, ...

Incorrect. She was born on U.S. soil, that makes her a natural-born citizen by U.S. law.



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President Donald Trump on Tuesday reacted to the news that former Vice President Joe Biden had selected Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate in 2020.

The president criticized Harris for treating his nominee to the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh, unfairly during the confirmation hearings.

“That was a horrible event,” Trump said. “I thought it was terrible for her, I thought it was terrible for our nation. She was the meanest, most horrible, most disrespectful than anybody in the U.S. Senate.”

Trump said that Harris was “nasty” to Biden during the Democrat primaries.

“She was probably nastier than even Pochahontas to Joe Biden,” Trump said, referring to Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s attacks against Biden during the primary. “It’s hard to pick someone that’s so disrespectful.”

Trump also criticized Harris for her record of prosecuting criminal marijuana cases in California and admitting during the Democrat primaries that she smoked marijuana.

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...srespectful-senator/
 
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Kamala is safe and she's not going to sway voters with her position on the issues.

I'm fearful there's a number of voters who know, beyond question, that Biden isn't ideal and she isn't either but they'll still vote for them if that's what it takes to beat Trump.

These voters don't care about Biden/Harris if it gives rise to some way for the Dems and Progressives to regain power. Removing Trump is the only goal and the Dem ticket are the pawns.

You seriously think KH is going to bring swing voters out for Biden? Sure, crazy loons will vote how crazy loons do, but that lady invokes strong feelings of animosity on a lot of fronts.
 
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She’s one heartbeat way from the being the President. Is she qualified enough for that position? The Governor of Alaska sure wasn’t....

No, but neither is Joe. And I think Sarah Palin was more qualified than either of those two, by a long shot.



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Agreed, but look how the media badgered Palin during that campaign. They were relentless in their opposition.

This time around it will be crickets.




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Kamala is safe and she's not going to sway voters with her position on the issues.

I'm fearful there's a number of voters who know, beyond question, that Biden isn't ideal and she isn't either but they'll still vote for them if that's what it takes to beat Trump.

These voters don't care about Biden/Harris if it gives rise to some way for the Dems and Progressives to regain power. Removing Trump is the only goal and the Dem ticket are the pawns.

You seriously think KH is going to bring swing voters out for Biden? Sure, crazy loons will vote how crazy loons do, but that lady invokes strong feelings of animosity on a lot of fronts.


She is a loon and kind of a Hillary Lite but she doesn't harm the ticket if Biden picked Rice or Bass.

Progressives wanted or warned that they'd be pissed if someone who wasn't progressive enough got the mood but even today, Bernie supporters are falling into line with support.

45% will vote Trump, 45% for Biden. Harris is safe for swing voters bc she doesn't automatically push the middle 10% to Trump. Just my opinion of the landscape.

Harris has no real experience other than being in 100% campaign mode ever since she became CA AG but you can't say that's necessarily bad. Trump had no experience at all

I believe Trump will win but for the next 80+ days Harris will offer razzle dazzle that some voters may like.
 
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LOL! This is beginning to look more and more like a rout.
But, but, but the media keeps telling me its Biden in a run away. Razz Roll Eyes


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She's a nasty bitch, someone that the fucktards and the Commie Media can rally behind. Independents won't like her and I'm looking forward to Pence crushing her in the debates.
 
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Yeah, I don't see how any way someone can slice this in any a that equals a win in any of the swing states. I look at this as a great pick (for us).


Well, he chose her first and foremost based on her skin color and gender. History would tell us that this strategy doesn't normally lead to success.
Balze, take color and gender out of the equation completely. You tell me how many people throughout the rust belt and the rest of the country are going be excited about supporting a California Lefty. Ain't gonna happen. She's the proverbial millstone around the campaign, that is if Biden doesn't completely steal the day with his continual screw ups. I can't in my lifetime remember a more incompetent anti-American pair of candidates to run for the White House. And something tells me I'm going to be joined by a majority of the country in that assessment.


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These voters don't care about Biden/Harris if it gives rise to some way for the Dems and Progressives to regain power. Removing Trump is the only goal and the Dem ticket are the pawns.
One error in that equation, the progressives you mention want control, but they want a President/VP who believe as they do and will fully support their positions. You tell me. You think Kamala, who just got huge praise from like a half a dozen Wall Street fund CEO's as well as Jeff Bezo's, are going to jump right in and raise the top income tax rate to 70%+ as these lunatic libs want? Not a chance. Both Biden and Harris are establishment Dem's, and the Bernie style progressives know it, hence the current outrage on social media. More and more Dem's are coming to the rationalization that they only have two 'real' choices this fall...Vote Trump and stick a finger in the eye of the DNC, or don't vote at all. Either way, the outcome will still be the same.
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I don't think Harris is legally qualified. Not a natural-born citizen, ...

Incorrect. She was born on U.S. soil, that makes her a natural-born citizen by U.S. law.
Who cares? That's a no win argument if its posed by Trump or the Repubs. Let it alone. This woman has a plethora of failings to attack her on. Let's stick to those.


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I am slightly...embarrassed...to admit that I have a twitter account....I do and I follow quite a few of the celebrity types, along with various youtubers and tech channels and of course a few cat and dog and other animal type....things....

I used to enjoy spending time reading through things but for the last many many months I really just do more scrolling through than reading.

Most of the reason being that quite a few of the celeb types post and re post non stop anti Trump crap and other similar stuff. I did unfortunately catch the mention tho of Harris being pick for Biden Vp....actually a LOT of mentions of it. The one thing that really got me is that basically every one that mentioned it or re tweated it are acting like the election is already over and done and Biden and Harris already won???

People celebrating the "fact" that we now have a black female VP. Not that it MIGHT happen or COULD happen....but that it is said and done and it is the greatest thing ever. It is just insane.

Like I said, I mostly just do a lot of scrolling now but I still stop and read all the kitty and doggy posts and tech stuff, but it is really getting hard to do nowadays with stuff like this Smile
 
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Harris is safe for swing voters bc she doesn't automatically push the middle 10% to Trump.

Yeah, we are pretty far apart on this one.
 
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Harris was born on US soil, so she's a citizen; but not both of her parents were US citizens at the time of her birth, so the "natural" part is debatable. The "natural born" phrase was not defined in the constitution. It's been argued at the state level, and argued at the Federal District level and won by Obama, but never pushed to the Supreme Court.

If it *were* pushed to the Supreme Court, I think the current court would take the stance that just being born on US soil is enough, but I think it would be 5 to 4. Replace one justice, and you could get the more restrictive "both parents must be US citizens" answer, the position I hold.

Like I said, though, I think the issue should be left alone. She does nothing to improve Biden's electability, and a different pick could be better for him.


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Note to sdy: as the original poster I would suggest changing the title of the thread to a more general one like “The Biden train wreck post” or some such, since it seems to be “the” Biden 2020 thread.


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It's pretty obvious that Harris was chosen because she's from California. And we know the Democrats consider California a "swing state," right? Roll Eyes

It's also not lost on me that in any other profession, "White men need not apply" is illegal.




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She also polled behind Biden in support from blacks so she doesn’t even bring greater appeal from any particular demographic. Roll Eyes
 
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This time around it will be crickets.

True.



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45% will vote Trump, 45% for Biden. Harris is safe for swing voters bc she doesn't automatically push the middle 10% to Trump. Just my opinion of the landscape.


She polled terribly in the Democratic primaries and she is very unlikable among the Dem's base. I think Senile Joe made a great choice for conservative/mainstream America.



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I'm thinking this got shoved down Biden's throat


Heh, heh, heh. Kamala got shoved down Joe's throat. Heh, heh, heh.


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