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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservative are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

Yeah, "no widespread fraud." "No proof of fraud."

Just like CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc., told you.


Keep drinking that Kool-Aid. Soon enough, you might actually come to believe that tripe you just spewed out here. . .

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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservatives are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:

WOW, you missed the point by county mile!

The whole process is now completely corrupted.

How are you going to vote someone out, when they control the vote counting???

What just happened in November?

It's unfathomable that a longtime member such s yourself, with so many posts, has missed so much from the owner of the forum about these types of posts. But to remind you about the fraud, the court cases were not dismissed based on evidence. They were all dismissed based on standing, which is bullshit and everyone knows it. No evidence was ever heard in court. That is fraud right there.

No not really. The were dismissed for a lot of reasons, different suits in different jurisdictions for different reasons.

https://www.businessinsider.co...tion-results-2020-11

It sounds like a lot of the suits were just full of shit, and the lawyer involved new it and tap danced as best they could.

Let me ask you this. In 2022 and 2024, are you going to vote? Is your beliefs about this election going to stop you? If the answers are no and yes, you've just handed the Dems permanent control of the country. And the real fraud is that it would be for no good reason.

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Originally posted by frayedends:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservatives are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:

WOW, you missed the point by county mile!

The whole process is now completely corrupted.

How are you going to vote someone out, when they control the vote counting???

What just happened in November?

It's unfathomable that a longtime member such s yourself, with so many posts, has missed so much from the owner of the forum about these types of posts. But to remind you about the fraud, the court cases were not dismissed based on evidence. They were all dismissed based on standing, which is bullshit and everyone knows it. No evidence was ever heard in court. That is fraud right there.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservatives are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

Delusional....Kool-Aid much?

Which side is drinking the cool aid?

Let's be honest here. AFAIK, no one on this board, or any of the other I'm on where this is discussed, has any direct first hand knowledge of what happened. We're all just watching/reading what's flying by on the web and other news sources. Before the election, and in it's immediate aftermath, when the fraud was starting to be discussed, I was willing to entertain the possibility that it would/did happen. But I also knew that Trump was going to deploy a lot of resources to attack it. So it would not be allowed to go unchallenged. I decided I'd watch the well resourced challenges, and see how the played out.

How they played out was that they completely failed. Not partially, not even a few wins and more losses. No, it was a complete gutter ball.

Look at GA. A state with a Republican Governor and Secretary of State. Do you think that if there was large scale fraud, the people who are in charge of running the election at the state level, and would lose power/influence because of that fraud, wouldn't be able to identify and counter it? Sorry, I don't buy it.

The demographic chicken's are coming home to roost, and, let's be honest Trump turned off a lot of people. Conservatives don't want to hear it, but it's the truth.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservatives are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

Delusional....Kool-Aid much?

BBMW do you know of a case where evidence was heard by the court? Anyhow I’m sure you know all the the different ways fraud was done. It’s not new news and I’m sure I don’t have to rehash it all. If you can’t see the fraud I do think you are delusional. Heck I know 2 people personally turned away from voting because “they mailed their ballot”. That’s in Massachusetts no less.

When I read this “there’s no way there was fraud post citing the loss in court proceedings, various investigations, etc”, I have to ask how they can even believe any of the “findings” at face value. About how states with 5-6 million votes can conclude an “investigation” in 48 hours is the first questionable thing. The second is that few courts (if any) actually heard evidence that was presented. Lastly, there were THOUSANDS of whistle blowers. Thousands. And they were all engaged in a giant conspiracy to claim election fraud and not a single one was legit?

It took the US government six months to investigate 2-3 whistleblowers in the Ukraine fraud, but most of the election fraud investigations were completed within 48 hours? And that doesn’t smell to some people?

Yes, that is the definition of kool aid drinking. No real, Transparent investigations took place. Why do you think twatter face space and the usual suspects are ramping down on anyone claiming that there was fraud? If the evidence from an actual investigation was legit, why not let it stand on its on merit and not have to desperately control the narrative?

It’s just more never-Trumpers strutting and gloating against a President they never liked anyways. More “orange man bad” nonsense.

The truly hilarious part is the ones who were claiming an election in 2916 was rigged, despite 4 separate FBI investigations lasting 3 years nor uncovering any evidence, are now telling us there’s no way any election fraud could happen. Anyone is delusional if they think any kind of a credible investigation took place in a matter of days. That a government that takes several months to start an investigation the rest of the time, has jumped into a phone booth and came out super efficient and can be trusted.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Which side is drinking the cool aid?. . .

Sorry, but you are the one on kool-aid if you think there was no fraud in the election.

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Originally posted by bigeinkcmo:
The process in many states was intentionally ripe for fraud. In my state of CO we had ballots where you could see your vote if you didn't use a secrecy sleeve when putting it in the envelope. Here's my own ballot which shows it. Linky: https://imgur.com/a/qEDJ8qR I provided this to my SOS, AG, Gov and crickets....because it was BY DESIGN!!! So it may not be illegal to make it so that the only candidate you might happen to see through the ballot envelope is a vote for or against Trump...it sure does raise some questions.

Btw, you cannot see any other candidates that we voted for regardless of the orientation...only a vote for Trump! And this year our secrecy sleeve wasn't a stand-alone item. It was part of a flyer with stickers and it had a blurb on it to use it as a secrecy sleeve if you need one...

This is but one tiny, tiny bit of scheming the Dems deployed across the country.

CA Dems do ballot harvesting, if the voter record doesn't show you voted, they will pay someone to go to your place to have you complete a ballot, which they will take to the registrar. (Or, they will just fill out your ballot in your behalf and submit it).

Also in CA, illegals, without any documentable proof of identity, much less citizenship, can get a drivers license plus register to vote. Since most illegals come to get their ticket on the gravy-train, who do you think they vote for??

Tidbit. A few years ago a boater in the San Francisco Bay noted boxes floating in the water. Turns out they were still sealed ballot boxes, a few days after the election. What ballots were counted in lieu of these boxes??

A good many people were happy to bathe in the luxury that the Bad Orange Man, drew for all, only to piss in the tub as it now turns lukewarm and act as if they were being drowned the entire time.

Yeah, you folks know who you are.

With all of Joe’s Executive orders is there really any need for Congress?

Seems we could save a bunch of money by just laying off all those in the House of Representatives and Senate.

Seems somewhere along the line we forgot there were three co-equal branches of Government.

Guess the Congress was not much interested in keeping their power. Not sure about the Judicial Branch, the Supreme Court seems willing to just sit on the sidelines.

Have at it Dictator Joe, the sooner you destroy the Country the sooner we can start to get it back on it’s feet again.

The workin people have things to do.
Coal Miners can start schooling for Solar Panel Technician jobs and those Oil and Pipeline guys can start to retrain on Windmill Repair.

Kerry tells oil & gas workers losing jobs to go make solar panels

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I'm glad all the RINOs are in a safe space now because the last guy was mean. This has to be so much better for them...cause mean men bad.

Biden’s Press Secretary, Jen Psaki. She’s gonna get dizzy.

Kayleigh McEnany rarely needed to “circle back,” did she

^^^^^

Listen again, I'm pretty sure she's saying "circle jerk".

The Biden DOJ is now indicting people who posted memes in 2016. This is not an exaggeration, the guy literally posted memes like 'vote for Hillary by replying to this tweet' and other nonsense like that. Facing federal indictment and 10 years in the federal pen now. Paying a Russian spy for a fake dossier and lying to a federal judge about evidence for a FISA warrant to sway the election - nothing. Posting a stupid meme - 10 years in prison.


https://twitter.com/mtracey/st.../1354505226720567297

Read the full nonsensical indictment here:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...ile/1360816/download

If you read the indictment, the Agent goes on and on about her vast investigative experience. Of 3 years! When I had 3 years on the job, I did not even rate driving a new patrol car.
Its amazing to me that what was once the preeminent law enforcement agency in our country has reduced itself to investigating an idiot posting memes to other idiots who believed you could vote with a text.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservatives are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:

WOW, you missed the point by county mile!

The whole process is now completely corrupted.

How are you going to vote someone out, when they control the vote counting???

What just happened in November?

Is it "fraud" when it's never investigated? I moved from CA to AZ more than two years before this election, I notified CA (the Los Angeles County Registrar of Voters) of my move and simultaneously registered as a resident/voter in AZ, yet months before this election I was sent a questionnaire from Los Angeles asking what language I wanted my ballot sent to me (in ARIZONA) in!

The corruption inherent in ballot harvesting is undeniable, especially since these same ballots haven't been verified by signature comparisons. In CA, the Department of Motor Vehicles automatically registers EVERYONE that obtains a driver's license or state issued identification card, including illegal aliens. Much has been made of the fact that illegal aliens' driver's licenses indicate they don't meet federal standards for legitimacy, BUT nothing has been said about the fact that:
1) All those who receive licenses and ID cards from the state who are ineligible to vote MUST VOLUNTARILY "OPT OUT" (off) the voter registration rolls.
2) CA polling personnel are legally prohibited from asking for ANY ID of those showing up to vote or mailing in ballots.
3) Vote "harvesting" is legal in this state and it's rife with opportunities for fraudulent balloting under the above circumstances.

No "fraud" here, eh? I have a friend that observed voter fraud (he's a retired police sergeant) as a poll watcher and his attempt to report this was negated by those appointed by Democrats. The Attorney General is a hardcore Democrat and he's in charge of the CA Department of Justice, the organization responsible for investigating complaints of voter fraud, that he repeatedly insists he's never received.

I'm a retired cop (as you know) and my family immigrated to Los Angeles in the 1950's, in part because of the corruption they saw firsthand in Chicago (my place of birth). California has become the "new" Chicago politically, and hopes to make the entire country follow in it's footsteps. When they insist we (taxpayers) allow illegal aliens to be counted in the census so that congressional districts will be weighted in their favor, the "fix" couldn't be more obvious. Yes, voter FRAUD is evident, even though those responsible for investigating/prosecuting the offenders have obviously ignored their duty to do so.

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If you read the indictment, the Agent goes on and on about her vast investigative experience. Of 3 years! When I had 3 years on the job, I did not even rate driving a new patrol car.

I had more time on the station toilet than that in my career.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. You were sold a bill of goods that the process was corrupted. If it were, at least some of the lawsuits filed would have succeeded.

Fraud didn't make Trump lose the election. Trump made Trump lose the election.

Now I know a lot of people here aren't going to agree. I don't really care. What I DO care about is that a lot of conservatives are going to check out of the electoral process because of Trump's bullshit, which is going to guarantee the liberals are going to stay in power

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:

WOW, you missed the point by county mile!

The whole process is now completely corrupted.

How are you going to vote someone out, when they control the vote counting???

What just happened in November?

BBMW,

Gonna disagree with you, kind of.

1. I believe fraud did happen, just not on the "massive" scale Trump's team claimed but, just enough in a select few areas.

2. The limited amount of time prevented his team from gathering enough of the right evidence to make a convincing case to SCOTUS.

3. Trump's actions is likely to bring out the fringe elements - on both sides - for 2024.

4. Biden’s actions (and possibly his removal for mental incapacity) will bring out core Republicans in force along with moderate Democrats who just want a job (ie., union members and others who are about to go on unemployment in the next two years.

5. If the first two weeks of Biden are any indication of the next 18 months, there'll be a Republican tidal wave in 2022 just like 1994.

The biggest, I hope, will be tidal wave followed by changes (for 2024) with regards to how the federal elections (legislative and executives branches) which will ensure only those legally allowed to vote do and, an openess of the counting process to possibly include a requirement for live streaming of ALL counting.

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Originally posted by pulicords:. . . I'm a retired cop (as you know) and my family immigrated to Los Angeles in the 1950's, in part because of the corruption they saw firsthand in Chicago (my place of birth). California has become the "new" Chicago politically, and hopes to make the entire country follow in it's footsteps. When they insist we (taxpayers) allow illegal aliens to be counted in the census so that congressional districts will be weighted in their favor, the "fix" couldn't be more obvious. Yes, voter FRAUD is evident, even though those responsible for investigating/prosecuting the offenders have obviously ignored their duty to do so.

So Officer Pulicords, I would like your professional opinion. (I lived in Silicon Valley for close to 4 decades, well know the political machinations of the Bay Area).

What do you think will take out CA first: earthquake, tsunami, meteor, bankruptcy (moral and/or financial)??