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The Russians still cache a lot of money in Britain, don't they? And if the Turkish lira is sucking wind, alternatives are bound to be more attractive.

I mean, really - would you buy real estate in Turkey? For a Russian that might be one notch better than Afghanistan, and about on a par with Chechnya.
 
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The Russians still cache a lot of money in Britain, don't they? And if the Turkish lira is sucking wind, alternatives are bound to be more attractive.

I mean, really - would you buy real estate in Turkey? For a Russian that might be one notch better than Afghanistan, and about on a par with Chechnya.


Russians do not convert to a Turkish Lira. In Russia (now restricting use of US Dollars), Spain, Italy, & many other countries you can open a US Dollar and/or Euro account at banks. Before Putin's restrictions on use of US Dollars & Euro's; Auto Teller machines in Russia could dispense US Dollars, Euros or Rubles by selection. Inflation of the Ruble makes US Dollars & Euros the currencies of choice for upper middle class Russians to pack in a briefcase & book a flight to Turkey.


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Just a quick update.

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Istanbul's New Opposition Mayor Cuts Funding To Some Pro-Government Groups
Reuters, 8/27/2019

Istanbul's new opposition municipality canceled the transfer of more than 350 million lira to some pro-government foundations, Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu said on Tuesday, in one of his first moves against Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan since his election.

Imamoglu, of the main opposition Republican People's Party, won a decisive victory in a June 24 re-run vote, ending a 25-year rule by Erdogan's AK Party (AKP) and its predecessors in the country's largest city and commercial hub.

Throughout his election campaign, Imamoglu vowed to uncover what he said was the wasteful transfer of millions of lira to pro-government foundations by previous administrations.

"As of now, we have completed the cancellation of a total of 357 million lira ($62 million) of resources that were given or transferred to foundations," he told reporters on Tuesday, adding that this figure included 56 million of "food support" and a 165 lira building.

Full original text at http://www.usnews.com/news/wor...ro-government-groups

Now, did we ever get around to stopping giving ACORN millions of dollars to get out the vote and boost the popularity of (and demand for) ObamaCare? Or have Nancy and her little friends in the House managed to guarantee that some of the American taxpayers' money is still hemorrhaging into commie hands? I guarantee you that Imamoglu just made it substantially harder for Erdogan to buy votes with the taxpayers' money in Turkey.
 
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Erdogan's AK Party Membership Seen Sliding Further As Dissent Grows
Orhan Coskun, Ece Toksabay, Reuters, 9/27/2019

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan's AK Party faces more defections after losing 840,000 members in the last year, former loyalists say, compounding its difficulties after two founding members broke ranks aiming to set up rival parties. Erdogan, modern Turkey's longest serving leader, has already faced a series of setbacks this year including an economic recession which has eroded AK Party support and defeat for his candidates in mayoral elections in Ankara and Istanbul.

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The defections pose a serious challenge to Erdogan's 16-year rule in Turkey, a NATO member bridging Europe and the Middle East which wields regional power despite the downturn that hit its $722 billion economy. The AK Party already relies on an alliance with nationalists for its parliamentary majority, leaving it vulnerable if it loses even a small proportion of votes to new parties set up by either Babacan or Davutoglu.

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However, official data shows the huge membership of the party as a whole slid to 9.87 million by early September, from 10.72 million in August last year. In a speech to party officials earlier this month, Erdogan played down the decline, saying that 95% of the fall was due to deaths of existing members and that membership was still more than 10 million. But some commentators say the sliding membership reflects an underlying decline in support. "Erdogan's popularity over the last seven years...is generally on a declining trend, artificially boosted by one-off events, to the point where it looks irreversible," said Gareth Jenkins, of the Stockholm-based Institute for Security and Development Policy.

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Jenkins said a party formed by Babacan would draw support away at a critical time, with Erdogan making policy "mistakes and miscalculations" in the absence of good advice. "He has become more disconnected from the expertise and competence withing the AK Party, increasingly surrounded by 'yes' men," Jenkins added.


Some compression and editing for space; full text available at http://www.yahoo.com/news/erdo...-seen-121554080.html

The interesting thing here is that Erdogan's gonna have to stay committed to fighting against the Kurds and in Syria in order to keep the nationalist parties on his side in Parliament. That means more expense, more risk of catastrophe, more war weariness weighing on his popularity, more dependence on Russia and less flexibility to pursue other strategic goals or focus on improving the economy.

The question in my mind is whether that means he's more likely to be replaced by someone who manages to be even worse. He can only crack down so hard if he can still lose elections and if his best political buddies still feel free to abandon him and start political parties of their own.
 
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This is getting toward the thing I asked a long time ago.

Thanks for staying on it.

So, it seems we get Erdogan, someone bad in my view, or we get worse.

This big country seems to be spinning away from freedom, tolerance and pluralism.

Turkey's original role and justification for being in NATO from the European perspective was to deny the Soviet Union ports. LINK

Times have changed and Turkey seems to be aligning toward Russia.

That may realign NATO as well.


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