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They can be sweet dogs. Unfortunately, the owner determines how their dog will act. I've been attacked by one, but also spent some time with another at an animal hospital. We either had to euthanize her, or keep her. So we kept her. She was very sweet, but we had to keep her away from cats. She had a tendency to eat through chain link fences to kill cats, that's how she ended up with us. Not the breed for me. The bad owners put the good dogs in a bad limelight. But yes, they are a fighting breed. ----------------- I apologize now... | |||
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I don’t need to own a grizzly bear to know it’s dangerous. | |||
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Funny this came up tonight. I just called animal control because an unsupervised "pit bull" was running around the neighborhood. The thing is, I have 2 boxers and have owned large dogs for the better part of 20 years so I have no fear of large dogs but I do have a lot of respect for their speed and strength. This dog was running the fence with one of my boxers and was friendly enough since it jumped up on the fence and let me pet him. He looked well fed and healthy and was "fixed". Regardless, I still called animal control because an unsupervised 70lb+ dog is potentialy dangerous if for no other reason than they could knock down my elderly neighbors even in a friendly manner. I was not going to risk trying to corral the dog since I don't have the right gear and I wasn't sure how he would behave if I was on the other side of the fence. FWIW, a lot of what folks call pit bulls seem to actually be mutts that have a lot of american bulldog in them possibly mixed with boxer or bull terrier or even some hound. Basically they are all muscle and have that short snout, cinder block head with massively powerful jaws. Ken | |||
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The way you worded that made me laugh  Actually, it is normal. Disturb any animal while it's trying to sleep and you risk an attack. A teenager in my family decided it would be fun to keep poking my puggle while she was trying to sleep on the couch. My words of warning went unheeded and he was attacked full on LOL. | |||
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There is certainly something to be said for the way a dog is trained, raised, treated, and socialized. But there is also instinctual behavior in dogs. I have a herding dog, raised her since she was a puppy. She has never been trained to herd anything, nor has she been around any other herding dogs/behavior or herd animals in her lifetime. But she sure loves to herd things. | |||
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I know two different people who got pitbulls from a good breeder, raised then in a caring, tender, fun loving the environment, and still had the dog snap and attack a family member resulting in severe injuries. I also dated a woman for a time who helped her best friend raise one, dog sat for it all the time, and one day it attacked, crushing her face, 80% of it is now plastic. I learn from others mistakes. I have no need to be around those dogs. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Had two bad experiences with pit bulls. Both when I lived in my old townhouse almost 20 years ago. 1-Arrived back from 2 week trip from out of town for work. Had stupid girl roommate with pit. Bed smelled like piss when I went to crash after long flight. After being confronted, she said it was her dog. Might have been her drunk ass sleeping in my bed. Who knows. 2- Same house a year later after roommate was evicted. Walking my newly adopted lab on a leash outside. He was attacked by a Pit. Blood everywhere. Beat the pit to retreat. Talked to owner who said it was a boxer and lied about his dog being off leash. Two weeks later, same pit comes out and tries to attack my boy. Couple of serious head kicks and he was gone. Pit owner still let his terror dog out out of the house unleashed when I moved out of that place. Probably ate cats for breakfast. Agree, owner has most of the blame. Guy was an asshole. | |||
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I've known several pit bull breed dogs. The only thing I was afraid of with them is being licked to death, or having an errant foot on my junk as they're trying to climb into my lap. ------------- $ | |||
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For yet the second time in this thread, 'Pit Bull' is not a breed. Its a concoction of multiple breeds. Refer to AKC doc if you don't wish to take my word for it. The term 'Pit Bull' is every bit as ambiguous as the term 'Assault Weapon'. As such, there is no 'ruining' the breed, because there is no breed. Balze, if you're an intelligent caring parent (which I believe you are), you won't leave your daughter in a room unsupervised with 'any' dog. My hounds have proven time and time again they love everyone, but I always remember that its not beyond impossible for a child to catch them on a very bad day and hurt or scare them, prompting an unnatural response. I let my dogs have access to children all the time, but I always supervise that interaction, sometime for no other reason than to teach the kids how to behave and act around a dog. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Siegfried & Roy owned a few tigers too  ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Ok that made me chuckle. I'm a doxie and a mini poodle guy, but if any of them got violent I'm pretty sure I could take them in a fair fight  | |||
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Ya, I dunno. My money is on the doxy. They never fight fair. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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[/QUOTE]For yet the second time in this thread, 'Pit Bull' is not a breed. Its a concoction of multiple breeds. Refer to AKC doc if you don't wish to take my word for it. The term 'Pit Bull' is every bit as ambiguous as the term 'Assault Weapon'. As such, there is no 'ruining' the breed, because there is no breed.[/QUOTE] Ahem... Breed standards And I loves me some big-headed Pibbles Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Large, powerful dogs must be ruled by a strong human leader. Unfortunately too many people walk around thinking their big dog is a person and treat them as such - leading the dog to think they don't have to listen to the human. I don't like pit bulls, but then again there are other breeds I don't like either. Chows, Jack Russells, pretty much all ankle biters. Most of all, I hate untrained, disobedient dogs of all sorts. Which is 95% the human owners fault. | |||
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Wow, probably 80%+ of the Dogs in this list are Pit Bulls. Humans > Animals. Many dog lovers have this backwards. | |||
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To be fair, the media can hardly tell a Pit Bull from a Glock. Any dog that bites someone is a "vicious Pit Bull" until proven otherwise, seven ways to Sunday. If it's got a big square head, they will not accept any proof that it is a Cana Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, American Bulldog, or anything other than a "Pit Bull". It's all about getting clicks and views, not accurate reporting. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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My German shorthair pointer/lab mutt snapped this year and cost me a $300 ticket when she bit someone. It involved her getting overly agitated due to endless fireworks during the holidays. She escaped and bit someone. Bottom line is any animal can snap in the right conditions. Having said that, I think the problems with Pit Bulls are two fold. First, when they do snap, their potential for damage is enormous. Second, since the ignorant public believes any big muscled dog to be a PB, this breed gets blamed more than is probably fair. I once had a HUGE-for-breed pure boxer, and half the people we’d meet thought he was a pit bull. So any attack by a big muscled terrier is attributed to pit bulls as a kind of confirmation bias. People like Michael Vick didn’t do the breed’s reputation any favors either. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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Ummmmm then what on earth do you call an American stafforshide terrior, recognized by the akc..... it is a breed.....aka pit bull. "Despite its name, the Staffordshire Terrier's ancestor (Bull and Terrier) was first bred in the nineteenth century in Birmingham, West Midlands, rather than in the English county of Staffordshire where it was then later bred. The early ancestors of this breed came from England where, until the first part of the 19th century, the Bulldog was bred. Bulldogs pictured as late as 1870 resemble contemporary American Staffordshire Terriers to a greater degree than present-day Bulldogs. Some writers contend it was the White English Terrier, Fox Terrier, or the Black and Tan Terrier that was crossed with the Bulldog to develop the Staffordshire Bull Terrier; all three breeds shared many traits, the greatest differences being in color and spirit. The cross of Bulldog and Terrier was called by several names, including Bull-and-Terrier Dog, "Pit Bull Terrier" (Bull terrier used to fight on pit), or Half and Half.[5] Later, it assumed the name of Staffordshire Bull Terrier in England. These dogs began to find their way into America as early as 1850. Became a new breed and was recognized by the United Kennel Club in 10 February, 1898, with the name American Pit Bull Terrier. In 1936 some pit bulls were accepted for registration in the American Kennel Club (AKC) Stud Book as Staffordshire Terriers with a new standard and purpose, belonging to the terrier and molosser groups. The name of the breed was revised January 1, 1969 to American Staffordshire Terrier; breeders in the United States had developed a variety which was heavier in weight than the Staffordshire Bull Terrier of England. The name change was to distinguish them as separate breeds.[4]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...taffordshire_Terrier | |||
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Look at the entire list, or at least look several years back. "Pit bulls" used to not dominate the list, yet they've been relatively popular in the U.S. for decades. It looks like around 2003 was when they started to become consistently the most prevalant on the list. | |||
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