It is statistically impossible for the count to change that much. I am sure the GDCs have voter rolls and have lists of outstanding mail-in ballots and no-votes that they could "find." I am also sure there are warehouses full of dedicated comrades who are helping ensure that those folks vote properly this election.

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We cannot allow them to steal this election. If we do we might as well turn our guns in and quit working because if we let them get away with this they will just keep stealing elections until it doesn't matter anymore. There is a line an we are right at it.

Turn them in?

Hell, no, clean them and load magazines.

Kind of my point.

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It is statistically impossible for the count to change that much. I am sure the GDCs have voter rolls and have lists of outstanding mail-in ballots and no-votes that they could "find." I am also sure there are warehouses full of dedicated comrades who are helping ensure that those folks vote properly this election.

Election fraud is a REAL thing... and always happens on one side. Democrats are lying, thieving criminals.

But that really shouldn't be a surprise. Their entire program and ideology is socialism. Socialism is based on theft. It's the idea that if you don't tend your own garden you can eat from your neighbor's garden.

Thursday on the radio, LevinTV host Mark Levin alerted listeners to the continued ballot-counting in Florida, which Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, R, called an attempt by “[D]emocrat lawyers” to steal the election.

Florida law requires counties to report early voting results within 30 minutes after polls close, but Broward and Palm Beach Counties in Florida are still counting and refusing to disclose the number of ballots remaining to be counted, Rubio said.

“You see, we not only have to win elections, we have to win them with enough of a buffer that all the cheating that goes on doesn’t affect the outcome,” Levin said.

Listen:



Levin called out the counties’ election commissions for counting late ballots and ballots filled out incorrectly — and doing so behind closed doors, though a judge ruled the process should be open.

“All these things are built into the voting process so the Left can steal it. Tell me, where has a Republican stolen an election? Where has a Republican stolen an election? Nowhere. And how is it when Democrats are behind, they always manage to pick up votes after the fact?” Levin said.

“Every vote should count, as long as they’re Democrats’ and as long as the Democrats win. This is Florida right now.”

https://www.conservativereview...otes-after-the-fact/

The GOP is like Charlie Brown trying to kick a football with Lucy.

Why do states still have paper ballots?

This happens every time, BushvGore, Franken, and too many others that I am forgetting.

Come on folks we need to do away with the paper ballot, especially for early voting. When has it ever helped the Republican party, never.

Electronic slates that are not network connected is the way to go.

simply plug them in at 7:05 after the polls close download the votes, boom results available. No ballots found in trunks of Democrat cars.

Please in my lifetime can we have a fair nationwide election.

HK Ag

Yeah sure. I'll tell ya', I trust elctronic ballots as much as I trust a fart on Taco Tuesday...

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Yeah sure. I'll tell ya', I trust elctronic ballots as much as I trust a fart on Taco Tuesday...

Both can work if administered by honest people.
But... both systems can also be manipulated. There is no such thing as a "foolproof" system of tabulating votes.

To your point: In St. Louis County, some of my assistant supervisors have witnessed techs, who were supposed to be resetting a machine when a PEB failed, cast ballots.

https://www.verifiedvoting.org...pment/ess/ivotronic/

But that's rare. It's actually easier to cheat with the paper ballots.

Just wanted to mention to those that don't know, Florida has bubble in paper ballots that get inserted by the voter and scanned by a counting machine on the spot when you are done so it is actually the best of both worlds. The paper ballot drops inside the machine so it is secure. You have a digital count for accuracy and expediency, and the paper ballots to reference in the event of issues.

Again, a reminder that two years ago Broward county election office workers were actually caught filling in ballots for Democrat candidates after one of the other workers blew the whistle on them and Brenda Snipes was found guilty of prematurely destroying ballots they were investigating. Also, military absentee votes should be the only votes outstanding to count by now per election law and those do typically break Republican by a 75 to 80% margin. Those are due in by Nov 16. A recount in 2000 couldn't make up 537 votes and they are now suppose to "find" a five figure difference? I don't think so. Brenda Snipes needs to be removed from office, investigated, and prosecuted along with her flunkies at the Broward office of elections. Plain and simple.

Rick Scott / Hannity video detailing what is going on in Broward and Palm Beach counties.

This Brenda bitch is the dirtiest election official in the country. Shame on the republicans for not getting rid of her.

Hehe

Anyway, Trump is on the case.

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Protesters have gathered outside of the Broward County elections office and a judge will be hearing the filed lawsuit in an emergency court session this afternoon.

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Why do states still have paper ballots?

This happens every time, BushvGore, Franken, and too many others that I am forgetting.

Come on folks we need to do away with the paper ballot, especially for early voting. When has it ever helped the Republican party, never.

Electronic slates that are not network connected is the way to go.

simply plug them in at 7:05 after the polls close download the votes, boom results available. No ballots found in trunks of Democrat cars.

Please in my lifetime can we have a fair nationwide election.

HK Ag

As someone who's worked in the information technology world for that last 25 years, your comments are misguided. I'll take the paper ballot system we have in Florida any day over electronic voting. Its not the process here, as you can readily tell from the other 60+ counties that have no problems reporting election results. Its always the same couple counties in south Florida who just coincidentally happen to be those who have lost court cases filed against them for vote tampering.

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I'd like to know what the Republicans are doing about this blatant cheating/corruption, instead of rolling over and play dead.

Nothing. Nothing is going to happen because Democrats wrote the instructional manual on cheating and the Republicans never read it.

I’m a pessimist when it comes to this shit so I think Florida is lost along with Arizona. When the GOP wins, they gotta win big or they’ll lose the recounts. Fuckin disgusted.

Not this time.

This time, Governor Scott picked up the tattered Flag and is rallying the troops to take the charge against the enemy.


"We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn!" ---- General Patton

In FL the ballots have to be counted on the election day, there is a time constraint, Broward County is trying to help push the numbers close enough to get a machine recount, and in doing so, hope to push the numbers close enough to get a paper hand recount.

In Seminole county Nelson picked up 73 votes over Scott in the machine recount, not enough to change it over but it's + votes for Nelson.

Getting this old coot out of the office has always been a challenge, Broward is a problem county.

I always wondered what happened to this guy after TEMPLE OF DOOM...




Who knew he would go on to become an election supervisor in Florida!

If the law says votes not submitted by the deadline must be discarded, how can they get around that? Sure, the FL State Supreme Court can do what they want. But then, isn't that how they got overturned by the SCOTUS in Bush v. Gore? Pretty sure the premise there was that the FL State Supreme Court had to enforce what the legislature intended (crazy concept).

just saw this, had never heard of such a Consent Decree. Explains a lot of the GDC shenanigans...


End of 1982 Consent Decree: GOP finally can contest vote fraud after 36 years


Just in time for this November’s mid-term elections!

Did you know that since 1982, the Republican Party had been legally prohibited from contesting elections due to suspected vote fraud, because of a legal agreement called the Consent Decree the GOP made with the Democrat Party?

Finally, 36 years later, a judge has ended the agreement, freeing the Republican Party to ensure electoral integrity by investigating and pursuing suspected vote fraud.

Betcha you never heard or seen this truly momentous news in the Left-infested mainstream nedia. Why’s that?

THE 1982 CONSENT DECREE
As I explained in my post of November 15, 2012, “Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud,” in 1981, during the gubernatorial election in New Jersey (NJ), a lawsuit was brought against the Republican National Committee (RNC), the NJ Republican State Committee (RSC), and three individuals (John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado), accusing them of violating the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (VRA), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

The lawsuit was brought by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the NJ Democratic State Committee (DSC), and two individuals (Virginia L. Peggins and Lynette Monroe).

The lawsuit alleged that:

The RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in New Jersey in an effort to intimidate them.
The RNC created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters. Then the RNC put the names of individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls.
The RNC enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands, to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

To settle the lawsuit, in 1982 — while Ronald Reagan was President (1981-1989) — the RNC and RSC entered into an agreement or Consent Decree, which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance.

The two parties agreed that “in the future, in all states and territories of the United States,” they would:

(d) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their employees to campaign within restricted polling areas or tointerrogate prospective voters as to their qualifications to vote prior to their entry to a polling place;

(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;

(f) refrain from having private personnel deputized as law enforcement personnel in connection with ballot security activities.

The RNC also agreed that the RNC, its agents, servants, and employees would be bound by the Decree, “whether acting directly or indirectly through other party committees.”

To put it bluntly, the Consent Decree in effect gave a carte blanche to the Democrat Party to commit vote fraud in every voting district across America that has, in the language of the Consent Decree, “a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations.” The term “substantial proportion” is not defined.

In 1987, the Consent Decree was modified to define “ballot security activities” as “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.”

Since 1982, the Consent Decree had been renewed every year by the original judge, Carter appointee District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, who, even after he retired, returned every year for the sole purpose of renewing his 1982 order for another year. Debevoise died in August 2015.

In 2010, the RNC appealed “to vacate or modify” the Consent Decreein “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012). But an appeals judge at the New Jersey District Court, Obama appointee Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., declined to vacate the decree.

Flash forward to December 1, 2017, when the Consent Decree was due to expire.

According to NJ.com, the Democrat Party tried to extend the Consent Decree, claiming that the 2016 Trump presidential campaign had colluded with the RNC in voter intimidation efforts, and that Trump’s commission to examine suspected Democratic voter fraud was, in the words of Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ), “a thinly veiled voter suppression effort”.

But Sean Spicer, who had been a top RNC official before entering the Trump White House as spokesman, testified there was no collusion of the Trump campaign with the RNC, and that the RNC had stayed away from all 2016 election day activities, including any voter-intimidation, voter-suppression or ballot-security efforts. Nor did any party officials discuss voter fraud allegations with the Trump campaign. Spicer said:

“It had been abundantly clear for the six years that I worked at the RNC that the RNC and its employees were prohibited from engaging in Election Day activities, including poll watching, so I intentionally stayed away from all of that.

The [RNC] counsel’s office had been vigilant in informing both senior staff and subordinates on the importance of the consent decree and the activities that we were clearly should not be engaged at or be even perceived as engaging in. And so we had grown accustomed to not even coming too close to a line that would in any way, shape, or form lead one to believe that we were engaged in those activities.”

RNC lawyer Bobby Burchfield said Spicer’s testimony proved there was no collusion and asked the presiding judge, U.S. District Court Judge John Michael Vazquez, to allow the 1982 Consent Decree to expire.

As reported by NJ.com on January 9, 2018, Judge Vazquez ruled that the Democratic National Committee did not prove that the RNC violated the Consent Decree prior to its Dec. 1, 2017, expiration date.

And with that, Judge Vazquez, an Obama appointee, ended that noxious 1982 Consent Decree legal agreement between the RNC and DNC which had tied the Republican Party’s hands from contesting elections and investigating vote fraud for 36 years.

RNC spokesman Michael Ahrens said “We are gratified that the judge recognized our full compliance with the consent decree and rejected the DNC’s baseless claims” and that Judge Vazquez’s ruling “will allow the RNC to work more closely with state parties and campaigns to do what we do best, ensure that more people vote through our unmatched field program.” As a result, the GOP will be able to boost its Election Day turnout operations, including targeting potential voters and get them to the polls, which the Democrats have been able to do but the Republicans have not for 36 years.

Nominated by Obama to the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey in March 2015, John Michael Vazquez, 47-48, who received his J.D. from Seton Hall University School of Law, was confirmed by the Senate on January 27, 2016, by a vote of 84 to 2.

Thank you, Judge Vazquez, for your fair and judicious ruling.


http://www.investmentwatchblog...DJjoKFB56Jy1hG1miBvQ

So now we have woman who is a resident of Minnesota and moved from Broward county 5 years ago receive a Florida ballot in the mail. Now that's not so surprising in and of itself.

What I find surprising is this. The lady who received the ballot turned it over to her friend who is a CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST! A conservative activist in Minnesota?!?! WOW!

Link

Trump is a bit fired up over all these dishonest shenanigans.