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I don't understand? Do you think the article is false? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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^^^True, that what the sign says, but that may have been the initial mileage (kilometerage?) target, or a banner indicating the milestone achieved. Per the article, "the Model S has traveled 1,609,344 kilometers." ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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So a 600,000 mile car. Whoop-tee-do. My great uncle had a 1960s era VW Beetle with a million miles on it. He could rebuild the engine in an afternoon using a $300 kit he purchased from the back ads in VW Trends. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
I was thinking the EV manufacturers would have to have a refurbishment program where they’d take a vehicle, replace the battery pack and what ever else, then sell it with a warranty at a lower price than new. But, I think you’re right. That would be much simpler. | |||
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My great great uncle said your great uncle was crazy because all he ever had to do was throw a hay bale over the fence and keep water in the trough. | |||
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I need some bumper stickers to give out that say "This car runs on coal".  | |||
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| Master of one hand pistol shooting  |
My patience would never last waiting for one of those 30 minute fill-ups. Especially if I was in line for one. SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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| 7.62mm Crusader |
I think the future for batteries, even those used in EVs will be old fashion zinc bromide and sodium ion. The latter would do away near completely with lithium ion. Thats all the big words I got for now on the matter. | |||
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It could be the perfect vehicle for people with IBS. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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I hauled hydrogen on my 18 wheeler, Kept a cornbroom on the truck. If we thought a hydrogen cylinder was leaking hold the broom up to the valve, if it cought on fire... RUN AWAY | |||
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That would actually be funny. | |||
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Everything about that article sounded goofy. Why would anyone buy a used EV? The “gas tank” is constantly shrinking. It loses charge when it’s too hot. When it’s too cold. Don’t over charge. Don’t undercharge. Subscription service? You guys are smoking crack. Uber and Lyft are great too. Until it’s peak and they fuck you on price. What is your subscription plan going to tell you when a car isn’t available? Or it smells like weed. Or it literally has weed in it at a traffic stop? Or, or, or. I will buy my own car thank you. Renting apartments probably seems practical for everyone as well right? Give me a fucking break. | |||
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This will get you started. Some will pay for additional features. Some will get the whole package. https://www.caranddriver.com/f...-options-automakers/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/...tures-of-the-future/ https://www.hertz.com/rentacar...age=subcriptions.jsp https://www.cars.com/articles/...ubscriptions-431020/ https://www.autoblog.com/car-subscription-services/ https://www.carinsurancecompar...bscription-services/ Bookmark this thread and come back in 10 years and we'll talk.  Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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No not at all.I'm just saying thats what the sign says but I did see the post belowe re 1.6 million KM so that clears it up for me. | |||
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You can bookmark that all you want. If you think Americans are giving up their cars I will take that bet any day. You realize your first link talks about subscription service for “services”. Not cars. Maybe we are cross talking. All those links are paying a fee to “unlock” features on a car. There isn’t a single feature I need that I would pay for. The last 5 cars I have bought offered “services” after the subscription ran out. They are 0 for 5. On other threads and I thought on this one, the reference was to corporate ownership of vehicles and you bought a membership to use. That shit ain’t flying. Tesla douchebags paying for a hotspot or extra acceleration or whatever, sure. Those people don’t care about money. A car is a vehicle to many of us. I’m not paying for heated seats. Either the car has them or it don’t. If that’s the “subscription” you are referring to I misunderstood. No car I buy will ever get money from me in that manner though. I don’t mind roll down windows either though. | |||
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| Down the Rabbit Hole |
For those like us, you are right. For young folks just starting out, it may be the only way to afford one. With some of these subscription services, you can get a new car each month with no worries about car repairs, etc..
That's what I meant by "Some will pay for additional features. Some will get the whole package." Here is another link. "Many programs often bundle things like insurance, maintenance and other perks in one single monthly payment." This will be popular for some people. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/...cription-lease-loan/ Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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Reading skills matter. When you said in coming years most will have EV subscriptions I was referring to partial ownership or fractional ownership of cars. As has been discussed here many times. As I clearly clarified in the post before yours. As for what you are talking about, sure. People who don’t mind overpaying for an EV because whatever probably won’t mind paying a subscription service for features. Most people will balk. Notice the brands where this has gained ground beyond a basic OnStar style system. Tesla, Porsche, BMW. I’m sure guys who pay 80k for a pickup truck will be next. Who won’t be next are most people who don’t wildly overspend on vehicles. The last link you provided is talking about what you are claiming not to be talking about. Fractional ownership with the intent of “dissolving car ownership”. Their words. Like I said, I will take that bet. What’s the lifespan and quality of those Lyme scooters that seem to be all the rage around town? | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
I’m not saying I believe fractional ownership will be the thing for EV. I’m thinking more along the lines of leases which are fairly close to a subscription service as it is. I’ve never leased a vehicle as I tend to put on a lot of miles. I’m at 28,000 a year on my truck, for example. Younger people aren’t phased by not owning the thing they purchase. Take gaming systems for example. Sure, you pay $500 for the system, but then you need a subscription account to play with your friends. Phones are another example. How many people buy a phone and hang onto it for years after it’s paid off? How many people trade it for the next model and keep the payments going? | |||
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| Ammoholic |
There are already car share and subscription services for cars. You can make money off your car by allowing people to use it when you're not. Makes a lot of sense for city dwellers who don't have a full time need for a car. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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These monthly subscription fees would go away quickly if everyone just said no. Unfortunately most people are great at short term thinking and paying monthly for everything and horrific at long term thinking and building wealth. | |||
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