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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Fair enough. I still am very puzzled and disappointed in his performance thus far though. I would imagine it was this early loyalty that is the one thing keeping Trump from firing him? I know he values loyalty very highly. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
It’s a fine balance between firing and resigning, kept in sway by the prospect of confirming a successor in a 51 vote Senate. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Perillo Tours: 'Dump Trump' statement a 'quick decision' during primaries, since removed but not removed from google maps, you can see it via the satellite image, link below: https://www.google.com/maps/pl...045766!4d-74.0722832
https://www.northjersey.com/st...aid-staff/380433002/ ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
So what you're saying is that your principles are just whims blowing in the wind, based on money, of course... __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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So Trump is going to use an EO to outlaw bump stocks? Really? I think the damn things are stupid, but what prevents the next President from making an AR illegal by EO? Or 30 round mags? Slippery slope and all. I’m watching some shit show on Fox with Trump and a bunch of Senators. Good Lord. | |||
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Live Slow, Die Whenever |
Well, there goes national reciprocity...Trump flat out said to Rep Rutherford you just dont have the support for it. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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Chip away the stone |
Did I hear correctly? Did Trump tell a congressman that the reason the congressman didn't have a requirement to be 21 to purchase a rifle in his proposal was "because you're afraid of the NRA"...? | |||
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Yup. He’s said it about 5 times in the past several days. Now he’s saying to some senators “you have to come down on the strong side” in regards to Feinstein complaining about ARs. What the actual fuck. | |||
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Live Slow, Die Whenever |
I think Trump is trying to play both sides at this point. He did just shut down Feinstein on another assault weapons ban. Basically told her you just need to work together to strengthen background checks, the usual bs from diane ”.... but, but ARs!!! Weapons of war !!!” "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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. See my post above yours. He didn’t exactly blow her off. He told Toomey you can come down on the soft side or the hard side (relative to some bill he’s working). And said he thinks you have to come down on the hard side. More or less what I heard. | |||
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Live Slow, Die Whenever |
Theres not going to be another AWB for the same reason there isnt going to be national reciprocity... not enough support. Were gonna get another watered down gun bill that does nothing to stop mass shootings but doesnt really affect legal gun owners either. I have faith Trump will stop the most insane crap from reaching his desk. We really need to keep the house and the senate more than ever though, that much is clear. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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Chip away the stone |
Then there was also his comment about how if you're unstable, the cops should take away your guns, whether or not they have the right to. | |||
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Thank you Very little |
Trump just asked the senators for a national comprehensive bill on gun laws.....
that is what I heard him say, the senator, I wasn't sure who it was from PA answered him that "he doesn't see why they should write a law that punishes all the law abiding people who are under 21 and have never done anything wrong with an age restriction" Good for him. Trump nodded to him, but also made the comment that the reason the age limit wasn't in the bill was everyone was afraid of the NRA and they need to buckle up (my words not his) | |||
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wishing we were congress |
White House Communications Director Hope Hicks, who completed nine hours of testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee Tuesday, will reportedly resign from her position. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...white-house-n2455744 | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
I love what he has done, but taking them first then due process concerns me. I'd like to hear more details. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
These Senators aren't afraid of the NRA. They simply listen to the NRA because they represent us. The reason the age limit isn't in the bill is because it's a do-nothing, feel-good item that does nothing but punish law-abiding Americans. But it sounds like he may want only the AR type rifle prohibited until 21. We'll see. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Now in Florida |
That was truly a bizarre performance by Trump at the gun summit today. Take a look at his speech to the NRA when they endorsed him during his campaign. Was that the same guy from the gun summit today? Don't get me wrong, I thank heaven every day that Hillary isn't president, and Trump has been much better than most of us who didn't support him initially thought he would be. Still, today is what we all feared about Trump. Hopefully, it is just politics and he stands firm on the 2A, but taunting Senators that they are "afraid of the NRA" (you know CNN will have that replaying on a loop) and casually dismissing due process for gun seizures is disturbing for sure. | |||
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Chip away the stone |
I've only watched a few minutes of this so far, but not liked what I heard: Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TN1qsBrep8 | |||
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Since he first launched his bid for the Presidency, Trump has been three steps ahead of his opponents, domestically and internationally. He is as great a strategic thinker as I have ever seen. Don't underestimate him or lose faith in him.
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I agree with this 100%. Individual states may do some asinine law-making also so watch out for that. ------------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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