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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I think you have not read the ruling. The judge usually explains, and provides the authorities upon which his decision was made. I’ve not read it either, but my guess is that it has something to do with rights which are supposed to have vested conveyed in the order which cannot now be lost or denied without due process. Something like that. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
It’s more complicated than you think, as is customary. I’ve not found the ruling, but I did find this summary.
Link Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
Yay! הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Political Cynic |
thats fine and all BUT Congress had an opportunity over 8 years to pass a law that would have codified DACA they didn't, they tried and it was rejected by the democrats who wanted it Zippy the Putz took it upon himself to crayon an executive order doing exactly what congress rejected the EO has an expiry date how is that NOT all the due process they deserve? the judges are requiring that the current President create another EO to extend one that is expiring thats the bottom line they are trying to force a sitting president to create a piece of legislation that has already been rejected by the democratic party time and again how is that NOT the due process? Trump should tell Napolitano and the two stooges to go fuck themselves [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Member |
The slap that comes from the Supreme Court to the 9th Circuit and the district is going to sting, when it was remanded that was a salvo to get this right. The 9th took its usual stance the Supreme Court will decide and separation of powers and the President will prevail. | |||
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Now in Florida |
The Trump-backed immigration reform, which gave amnesty to almost 2 million illegals in exchange for border wall funding, major restrictions on chain migration and ending the diversity visa lottery failed in the Senate today. It couldn't even get 40 votes. 14 Republicans voted against it! On the positive side, none of the other weaker proposals got past a cloture vote either (although they all got more than 50 votes). This country is screwed. A majority in the Senate (and surely the house as well) are itching to give the biggest possible amnesty for the littles border security and enforcement crumbs they can get away with. Eventually the Dems will have power again, and this will be the firs tthing they do....and enough "Republicans" will go along with it to let it pass. It will be hugely unpopular like Obamacare, but once done, it can't be undone. And it will only encourage millions more to come illegally. Sad day. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I think these are tactical votes, designed for the folks back home, their bases, while a deal is being hammered out behind closed doors. You need to be able to convince the folks bsck home you are really on their side, even when you end up being forced to go along with some distasteful compromise ultimately. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
The Family Guy tie-in is annoying, but stick with this and watch this little prancing fraud speak faster and faster as the clip progresses, in an effort to support his personal opinion. You know he's treed when he throws out that idiotic "bots" crap. Disgusting little bitch. You are NOT a journalist, jerk. | |||
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Now in Florida |
Normally I would agree...but all the compromises were voted on. There were 4 different proposals with varying degrees of border hawkishness - from nearly clean DACA to full Trump and a couple in between. Nothing got 60 votes. I don't see what compromise is left. I think it is more likely that the Dems are content to let this issue sit out there so that they can campaign on it in the midterms. | |||
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Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
What the hell ever happened to that silly majority rule thingy?? As I understand it, that 60 vote crap is nothing more than what amounts to a senate "custom" that is invoked whenever they do not want to deal with something. I.e. gee, let's do the 60 vote thing, we know it will not pass, and we can move on to something more important, like how can more lobbyists get me more money. Screw the country! Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I think it is more than a mere custom to be invoked on occasion. The cloture to cut off debate is inshrined in Senate Rules and has been in various forms for many, many years. It is mandatory, unless they can pretend to conform to reconciliation. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Political Cynic |
it is all posturing the dems know they're not going to get immediate amnesty - 12 years is a long way off and most of them will be retired by then so they can't count on the votes to help them in 2018 so they default to their best position which is to screw over the American people they are so transparent they might as well not even exist [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Bad dog! |
Mueller has indicted Russians for interfering in our 2016 election. It is banner headline on Drudge and just about everywhere. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/1...-muellers-probe.html What utter horse shit. Every major power does something like this to other countries at their election time. Mueller-- and his entire "investigation"-- is a complete fraud. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
It's good news. It means that douchebag and his douchebag team of douchebags have found nothing on President Trump. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
So, it sounds like he's got nothing and needs to justify keeping this bullshit witch hunt going. When is Trump going to shut this nonsense down already, FOR F*CKS SAKE! | |||
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safe & sound |
Never. Not going to happen. Trump will not shut this nonsense down and for good reason. It will die its own death AND will justify the next special prosecutor doing the same, thorough, unimpeded, free from influence investigation into the Dems. | |||
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goodheart |
Bingo. Link _________________________ “ What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”— Lord Melbourne | |||
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wishing we were congress |
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download The indictment against the Russians (above) (37 pages) for reference , here are the indictments against Flynn, Manafort, and Papadopolous: https://www.justice.gov/sco an important link sco special counsel Mueller from the indictment announced today: a very early comment on the indictment, note that several of the people are indicted for activities that began and ended in the 2013/2014 time period. Donald Trump announced his candidacy 16 June 2015. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
How can it when the Democrats are putting all time and resources into prolonging it for the entire term of Trump's tenure, for if they can't "get" him they can at least have him under a cloud for 4 or 8 years? No, I disagree. It's time for Trump to stick his foot up whoever's ass it is to make Mueller shut this shit down, and now. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
That major piece of news and key fact won't get any airtime. All we will hear are variants of this quote from the CNBC article posted above:
That will be declared "ample proof of Russian collusion" even though that isn't what is stated in the indictment. There the term was "unwitting Trump campaign officials were duped" also a not particularly nice phraseology. It's good news for those who care for the President because now that there are indictments, Mueller et al can be disbanded and the real criminal cases against Ohe, Page, Strzok, Rosenstein, et al can begin. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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