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Originally posted by sdy:
CNN interview w Baltimore mayor. She disagrees w how Mosby made her statement today.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/poli...sby-reaction-sot.cnn

Rawlings-Blake said a bench trial choice is part of our legal process. Doesn't mean the system is rigged.

RB also questioned why Mosby said she needed an independent investigatory group, when that is exactly what Mosby claimed she did.

LOL...The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round, the wheels on the bus go round and round, all day long!

RB trying to distance herself and salvage some kind of future for herself.

This has been a thread I have checked daily...again, a big thank you to sdy for keeping us updated on this travesty...I am so pleased it has turned out the way it has...and I hope those responsible pay in the worst way possible...each and every one of them.

The family got $6 million something from the city. Was that awarded by the court, or did the city settle out of court to make it go away?

If it's the later, I'll bet the city wishes they would have drawn it out until after these trials & gone to court. In light of all the not guilty decisions, the settlement, if any was awarded at all, may have been a lot less.

I bet Freddy's family are driving some really nice cars these days though.

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:
The family got $6 million something from the city. Was that awarded by the court, or did the city settle out of court to make it go away?

If it's the later, I'll bet the city wishes they would have drawn it out until after these trials & gone to court. In light of all the not guilty decisions, the settlement, if any was awarded at all, may have been a lot less.

I bet Freddy's family are driving some really nice cars these days though.

That was not a court case. The city caved and just handed them cash. Only good thing is the settlement prevents the family from suing the officers and putting them through more shit.

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Originally posted by comet24:

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:
The family got $6 million something from the city. Was that awarded by the court, or did the city settle out of court to make it go away?

If it's the later, I'll bet the city wishes they would have drawn it out until after these trials & gone to court. In light of all the not guilty decisions, the settlement, if any was awarded at all, may have been a lot less.

I bet Freddy's family are driving some really nice cars these days though.

That was not a court case. The city caved and just handed them cash. Only good thing is the settlement prevents the family from suing the officers and putting them through more shit.

That's a good thing.

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yes, the judge is black, as are the prosecutors and the mayor, so we cannot have racism and therefore, we cannot have a whiot.

Fear not. A search on twitter will yield thousands of the BLM folk that talk about racism in this decision. When challenged they will retort - it's magical fairy land racism AKA "institutional racism" that is allowing these officers to get acquitted. The fact that there is absolutely no evidence of a crime is not important.

This is very consistent with the Dostoevsky stmt I stumbled on. People lie to themselves, and come to believe their lies, to prop up their own egos, to the point there they can no longer recognize truth, and no longer care about truth.

Or, these people are so incredibly illiterate, and downright stupid, that they can only react emotionally because they lack the mental capability to 'reason'. i'm going with this answer.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yes, the judge is black, as are the prosecutors and the mayor, so we cannot have racism and therefore, we cannot have a whiot.

Fear not. A search on twitter will yield thousands of the BLM folk that talk about racism in this decision. When challenged they will retort - it's magical fairy land racism AKA "institutional racism" that is allowing these officers to get acquitted. The fact that there is absolutely no evidence of a crime is not important.

This is very consistent with the Dostoevsky stmt I stumbled on. People lie to themselves, and come to believe their lies, to prop up their own egos, to the point there they can no longer recognize truth, and no longer care about truth.

Or, these people are so incredibly illiterate, and downright stupid, that they can only react emotionally because they lack the mental capability to 'reason'. i'm going with this answer.

Yeah, I am going with your answer as well.

It's interesting that former Baltimore mayor, Maryland governor and Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley has just completely dropped off the radar.

Did he even have a speaking part at the DNC convention? If he did I missed it.

Defense attorneys respond to Mosby

http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160728-story.html

Defense attorneys for three of the Baltimore police officers cleared in the Freddie Gray case slammed Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby on Thursday, saying she painted herself as the "victim" of a crooked criminal justice system, rather than acknowledging that she had victimized their clients by filing baseless charges against them.

In their first extended comments since a gag order was lifted after the case concluded Wednesday, attorneys for Lt. Brian Rice and Officers Edward Nero and Garrett Miller told The Baltimore Sun that Mosby had been offered help by the Maryland State Police early in the investigative process, but rejected it.

Greg Shipley, a state police spokesman, confirmed that his agency had offered assistance in the case.

"The Maryland State Police agreed to provide technical assistance to the state's attorney's office that would include the expertise of our Computer Crimes Unit," Shipley said. "Ultimately, we were not called upon to provide any assistance."

The attorneys scoffed at Mosby's claim, made at a news conference Wednesday morning after the remaining charges were dropped, that she had brought strong cases against the officers that were undone by a rigged system.

In reality, they said, their clients had been railroaded by a prosecutor who was less interested in the truth than in announcing charges to quell riots.

"These charges were not supported by any fact or evidence. Period," said Michael Belsky, Rice's attorney. "These charges were brought based on a fictitious narrative that was never true and never proven."

Zayon and Belsky both said that in the days following Gray's death, and before Mosby announced the charges against the officers, Nero and Rice were willing to speak with prosecutors about what had occurred. But they never got the chance, the attorneys said.

"My client was asked if he wanted to give a statement to the state's attorney's office, and my reply was that I was inclined to do it. Within 24 hours, I never received a phone call and he was charged," Belsky said. "He was willing to sit down and talk to them, and instead they just went and charged him.

Belsky said the defense has "no clue" what prosecutors presented to the grand jury to have their cases "sanctioned and blessed," as Mosby claimed, but called on Mosby to release transcripts of the proceedings.

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one important controversy that seems easy to clear up is the issue of the medical examiner.

The ME testified that she never said Gray's death might be an accident. But a BPD detective testified that she did. The detective testified that the ME initially said it was an accident to multiple high level police commanders, including the present BPD Commissioner Kevin Davis.

Why has there been no statement from the police commanders to verify either the detective or the ME ?

I wonder what the chances are that all of those who chose to railroad the officers will be held fully accountable with proper consequences. Anything less will only encourage more in the future. In the interest of maintaining or reestablishing credibility, the justice system needs to clean house with extreme prejudice.

Mosby and one of her the prosecutors in these cases (didn't catch his name) gave an interview today and both claimed that the state police came down to talk to them, but then declined to help in the investigation. Someone is obviously not telling the truth here.

She also said there should be an outside investigative unit to handle these cases but not a special prosecutor. She doubled down on her police criticisms in the interview as well, effectively nuking whatever bits of pieces of the bridge that remained between her office and the BPD.

so when does the trial for malicious prosecution begin? Can she be sued by the officers involved for damages?

the twat needs to be held accountable - she is less than pond scum but needs to feel the justice system properly applied to understand how it really is supposed to work

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:....This is very consistent with the Dostoevsky stmt I stumbled on. People lie to themselves, and come to believe their lies, to prop up their own egos, to the point there they can no longer recognize truth, and no longer care about truth.

Or, these people are so incredibly illiterate, and downright stupid, that they can only react emotionally because they lack the mental capability to 'reason'. i'm going with this answer.

Yeah, I am going with your answer as well.

I might suggest the two flavors of mental incompetence are not mutually exclusive, one could suffer from both. But collectively they describe way too many in the population.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I wonder what the chances are that all of those who chose to railroad the officers will be held fully accountable with proper consequences. Anything less will only encourage more in the future. In the interest of maintaining or reestablishing credibility, the justice system needs to clean house with extreme prejudice.

I am not worried, Obama promises he will promote the "rule of law".

The mood of the folks from the inner city of Baltimore are for the most part as follows. Most feel that it was the out come from the beginning for the LEOs and that that's the system. Plus the family got paid (6.5 million before the lawyers take theirs) which was a hole lot more Freddie would ever earned on the corner. The rest could care less. The SA here in Baltimore sees herself as a crusader for her people. She has done a great job hasn't she. Their case was so weak the Judge (black which shouldn't matter but this is Baltimore) threw it out. We know that Freddie was very combative and may have injured himself but then somewhere in the custody trail then he went downhill fast, was that going into the wagon, taking the wagon ride, coming out of the wagon, going in to an ambo, coming out of same or being placed on the table at the hospital. That's why the case fell apart where did it happen? no one could answer the question. They are very quick to jump on the LEO in this town long before the truth is found. IMHO Chris

Thank you, sdy, for this thread detailing an incredible goat fuck. I've been reading it almost every day.

If Tom Clancy or David Baldacci had written a novel with this plot the critics would have been all over him, "unrealistic, unbelievable, preposterous, etc..."

Christ on a crutch! Baltimore used to be a nice place. We took the train up there in the late 90's and had a great time exploring the waterfront, the aquarium, and having sausages at a great German restaurant. Not anymore.

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Just going to second the post above. I don't have a lot of time to research articles about stories I am interested in, but I know everytime I check back in on a thread here and the post is from Sdy I know I am going to get straight scoop and not just scuttlebutt.

Very happy the Judge weighed the evidence and not the emotion. As was said before Comey could learn a thing or two.

I worked north of Baltimore (Aberdeen) for about six years. Man I am glad I left that place.

Just to add my kudos: sdy is the bomb!

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Originally posted by Chris Anchor:
The mood of the folks from the inner city of Baltimore are for the most part as follows. Most feel that it was the out come from the beginning for the LEOs and that that's the system. Plus the family got paid (6.5 million before the lawyers take theirs) which was a hole lot more Freddie would ever earned on the corner. The rest could care less. The SA here in Baltimore sees herself as a crusader for her people. She has done a great job hasn't she. Their case was so weak the Judge (black which shouldn't matter but this is Baltimore) threw it out. We know that Freddie was very combative and may have injured himself but then somewhere in the custody trail then he went downhill fast, was that going into the wagon, taking the wagon ride, coming out of the wagon, going in to an ambo, coming out of same or being placed on the table at the hospital. That's why the case fell apart where did it happen? no one could answer the question. They are very quick to jump on the LEO in this town long before the truth is found. IMHO Chris

What town is that? Rising Sun?

Here in Baltimore none of the cases were thrown out by Judge Williams. He found three of the officers not guilty on all charges before the SAO dropped the charges against the remaining officers including William Porter, who already had a trial which resulted in a hung jury.

A complaint was filed against Mosby some weeks ago. The complaint was to the Maryland Attorney Grievance Commission. Two new complaints have been filed against prosecutors Michael Schatzow and Janice Bledsoe.

As AirmanJeff noted, Mosby and Schatzow just went public again.

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/mos...information/40951398

Speaking on the WBAL NewsRadio 1090 AM "C4" show Friday, Mosby revealed the tension she said her office had with former police Commissioner Anthony Batts during the investigation of Gray's death. Batts, who was fired a year ago, publicly called Mosby incompetent and said the officers should not have been charged.

"So what I can say about former Commissioner Batts, and he's former, right, there's some kind of lack of leadership there," Mosby said. "There was a lot of misinformation that was being put out to the public, and, on several occasions, we went to him and said, 'Can you please stop putting out misinformation? Can you please stop doing that? Because all you are doing is compromising the investigation. Two, you are exacerbating distrust, and people are going to be angry about that and start burning things down.'

Mosby and Chief Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow tried to dispel what they called misinformation about whether they sought outside assistance.

Speaking on "C4," Schatzow said the office did ask for help and met with a high-ranking state police commander to go over what needed to be done.

"He asked us for a specific list of what we wanted to do. We gave him a task list that was two pages long that ended with, 'Provide advice and continue to work on the investigation,' and the state police declined to do that, which was in their right to do, but the misinformation about this in the past two days has been incredible. We were looking for outside help and couldn't get it," Schatzow said.

The Maryland State Police issued a statement to 11 News, saying, "Soon after the death of Freddie Gray, the Maryland State Police was contacted by the Baltimore State's Attorney's Office and asked to attend a meeting about the case. The chief of the Criminal Investigation Bureau at the time attended. The Baltimore State's Attorney's Office had a limited request for the Maryland State Police to be involved in the service of search warrants and to provide technical assistance. The Maryland State Police agreed to provide technical assistance to the State's Attorney's Office that would include the expertise of our Computer Crimes Unit. Ultimately, we were not called upon to provide any assistance ."

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160729-story.html

Batts, who was fired last July amid a soaring homicide rate, on Wednesday said Mosby was "incompetent, immature and vindictive." He said she was "in over her head" and has added more flaws to a broken justice system by prosecuting innocent officers "to prove a point."

Mosby said she was going to take the high road regarding his criticism, paraphrasing Michelle Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention this week.

"When they go low, I'll go high," she said.