My opinion... take it for what it is worth.

It is yours, you can do anything you want with it. Smash it if you want.

But before you do consider it's value. In this case that is a discontinued product, there are only a finite number out there. Values range from $1,500-$4,500. So say you had a really nice condition one that is worth $4,500 and your modification that costs you $200 reduces its value to $500. Perhaps reversible but if someone has been in there tinkering around, the value would drop.

Maybe you'd be better off selling that and buying an amp that gives you the tone you want and pocket the balance.

Sure, putting a Floyd Rose on a '59 Les Paul would sound awesome but that is 1 less pristine '59 Les Paul out there.

Not knowing anything about guitar amps when I read the OP I thought the modification was to a rare, valuable amp and the modification was not reversible. Turns out it's not worth that much and the modification is reversible. You want to do it, you'll make good use of it, so do it.


What my first gut reaction, and those of other members who posted, was if it is rare and valuable then it would be in better taste to not modify it. No one disputes that a man can do what he wants with his property, however when it comes to "collector" pieces it's in poor taste to modify/destroy it.


I don't consider myself a gun collector by any means however I bought some guns that I really liked and they happened to have gone up in value due to rarity, discontinuation, etc. Can I cut the slide of my HK P7M13 and put a RDO on it? Sure, it's mine. But that completely butchers the gun and makes it a lot less valuable. People do dumb shit to vintage/collector stuff all the time. It doesn't make it right.

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I don't get it. Why would someone even want to dictate what I do with what I own?

I might turn that around and suggest another question: "Why should one care what other people think about what one does with their own stuff?"

Just like a bunch of old women ...

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Originally posted by joel9507:

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I don't get it. Why would someone even want to dictate what I do with what I own?

I might turn that around and suggest another question: "Why should one care what other people think about what one does with their own stuff?"

What makes you think that I do?

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Originally posted by Hildur:
Not knowing anything about guitar amps when I read the OP I thought the modification was to a rare, valuable amp and the modification was not reversible. Turns out it's not worth that much and the modification is reversible. You want to do it, you'll make good use of it, so do it.


What my first gut reaction, and those of other members who posted, was if it is rare and valuable then it would be in better taste to not modify it. No one disputes that a man can do what he wants with his property, however when it comes to "collector" pieces it's in poor taste to modify/destroy it.


I don't consider myself a gun collector by any means however I bought some guns that I really liked and they happened to have gone up in value due to rarity, discontinuation, etc. Can I cut the slide of my HK P7M13 and put a RDO on it? Sure, it's mine. But that completely butchers the gun and makes it a lot less valuable. People do dumb shit to vintage/collector stuff all the time. It doesn't make it right.

OK, got it. I’m dumb and tasteless. You could have just asked me.

The fact is, I use my stuff. If it’s rare or valuable doesn’t enter into it. I’ll modify the very first Fender Strat that ever came off the line if I owned it and it will work better for me. I’m personally not attached to any stuff in an emotional way, except for the hours worked to obtain the thing.

I probably wouldn’t modify a Santana or Hendrix amp played at Woodstock but a Marshall from the same era, I sure would. I’d stick a 4th preamp tube in there in a hot minute.

Four pages read, and I don’t have much to add that hasn’t been said…

Modify your amp as you like. Write a super sarcastic letter with instructions on how to reverse the modification. Leave the sarcastic instructions in the back of the amp so years down the road, someone will find it, have the instructions and a good laugh.

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Originally posted by mark123:

OK, got it. I’m dumb and tasteless. You could have just asked me.

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Don't know why you took offense to what I said considering what you have isn't rare and the modifications are reversible. I encouraged you to do it as you'd enjoy using it post modification and be happy with it.

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Originally posted by Hildur:

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Originally posted by mark123:

OK, got it. I’m dumb and tasteless. You could have just asked me.

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Don't know why you took offense to what I said considering what you have isn't rare and the modifications are reversible. I encouraged you to do it as you'd enjoy using it post modification and be happy with it.

Who’s offended? I’m both dumb and tasteless.

And illiterate. Sorry you didn't get the responses you were looking for. Enjoy your amp, modified or otherwise.

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Originally posted by Hildur:
And illiterate. Sorry you didn't get the responses you were looking for. Enjoy your amp, modified or otherwise.

Great. Thanks for your valuable input. Kindly go evacuate your urinary bladder vertically up a twisted hemp cord.

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Originally posted by mark123:

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Originally posted by Hildur:
And illiterate. Sorry you didn't get the responses you were looking for. Enjoy your amp, modified or otherwise.

Great. Thanks for your valuable input. Kindly go evacuate your urinary bladder vertically up a twisted hemp cord

Care to edit your post with anymore instructions?

Funny how a thread on why people insist on telling people what they should do with their stuff has morphed into a thread of people telling him what to do...... with his stuff..

Like said early on, "nature of the beast" or basic "human nature" guys like to solve problems, lucky you don't have a lot of women here or the thread would be all emotionally and stuff...

Amp is junk, just send it to me. I'll even pay for the shipping...

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Originally posted by mark123:
Kindly go evacuate your urinary bladder vertically up a twisted hemp cord

I actually spent 5 minutes trying to picture that happening. LOL.

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Originally posted by HRK:

lucky you don't have a lot of women here or the thread would be all emotionally and stuff...

Are you not seeing what is going on? LOL

I'm still trying to figure out how to twist a hemp cord.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Funny how a thread on why people insist on telling people what they should do with their stuff has morphed into a thread of people telling him what to do...... with his stuff..

Yeah, I should have mentioned the item was something else like an OJ Simpson jersey. Then everyone would demand that i do modify it … with fire.

A lot of collector value in an old amp is in the ones that are clean with not mods. The problem is most people mod stuff to fit their needs. In the 70s when you could by a 50s Les Paul for less than $1k all day, people used to take the pickups out of them and replace them with hotter pickups - junk like Dimarrzio Super Distortions. Now that they are worth $250k and up, they’re all back to being stock…..

For now, it’s your Fender amp. CBS era amps are not as valuable anyway. If you want to add a gain stage to the amp, do it. Mods can always be undone later.

For many years I played on a 70s Marshall Super Lead. They amps had no master volume and to get into the tone that you associate with these amps, they had to be really loud - like in loud enough to play in an outdoor stadium. Everyone did PPIV MV mods - that’s a post phase inverter master volume mod. It was a relatively simple mod to do if you had a little electronics skill. When I finally sold the amp, because it was still just too damned loud, no one cared about the mod. YMMV on that Bassman.


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Twisted Hemp Cord. I don't have a musical bone in my body but if I did that would be the name of my band. The hit single would be "UBE." Still working on the lyrics though. Evacuation is not an easy word to put in a chorus.

On another note, have you tried use a good pedal in front of it to push the amp over the top? I have a couple of amps that have a lot of clean head room like your amp - one is a Fender Princeton Reverb Reissue - the one with the 12” Jensen in it. I use a couple of different pedals to drive the Princeton. My first pass is on an Analog Man King of Tone pedal which has two sides that you can stack. I also use a Jetter GS-124 Dumble style pedal on this rig as well.

Also - I don’t know if you’re into NOS tubes, but there are still some good old RCA tubes from the 50s and 60s around. I’ve found that the NOS tubes have way more character than the modern Russia and Chinese built tubes.

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I know that I'm oversimplifying this but wouldn't it be easier to do what YOU want without posting about it ? No matter what position you take on anything , somebody is going to take exception to it and inject their opinion into your business . Now , if you actually ask for advice then you deserve what you get .