An Anderson Law break down of how this set aside till next year came to be.

https://www.facebook.com/virgi...eos/183435716245651/

Y'know, every time I click on the forum link I see the map on page one. I thought folks might like to see how that map has changed since the thread began.

Today's stinging defeat put Governor Ralph Northam in a black mood.

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
Boysko must go!

I agree, but it will pretty hard. She lied to me personally that day as well. She told me that she understood that certain features are common and she understood a threaded barrel is on all modern sporting rifles. She also said she had changed her position and that she understood how common mags greater than ten are. She said she was weighing all sides and it wouldn't be a party line vote from her.

Congratulations.

A question: Is it really dead for the year, or could the sneak it around through another committee to get it to the full state senate?

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Congratulations.

A question: Is it really dead for the year, or could the sneak it around through another committee to get it to the full state senate?

I cannot speak to the veracity of this, but I heard one pundit say it could get brought straight to the Senate floor, but it was unlikely to happen.

Senator Amanda Chase has been instrumental in this fight. She just announced that she will be running for Governor.

I can honestly say "I'm with her."

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
Today's stinging defeat put Governor Ralph Northam in a black mood.

Good job all of you. I'm very happy this worked out!

Next stop, kick that baby-killing idiot out of the governor mansion. "Conversation with the Mother after the child is born" my ass.

Can someone please explain to me what this "dead for the year" bullshit means?

Does it mean that Bloomberg (and his Democrat buddies) didn't want this to interfere with the upcoming election so they decided to shelve it until after?

Yeah, they're delaying it until after the election because they want a deep and intense study of the crime stats. Yeah, I'm certain that's the reason.

Need to Kill the red flag crap and HB177 which defeats the electoral college

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Congratulations.

A question: Is it really dead for the year, or could the sneak it around through another committee to get it to the full state senate?

According to news reports, the bill has been referred to the Virginia State Crime Commission.

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The purpose of the Commission is to study, report, and make recommendations on all areas of public safety and protection. In so doing, the Commission shall endeavor to ascertain the causes of crime and recommend ways to reduce and prevent it, explore and recommend methods of rehabilitation of convicted criminals, study compensation of persons in law enforcement and related fields and study other related matters including the apprehension, trial and punishment of criminal offenders.

The Commission is directed to make such recommendations as it deems appropriate with respect to the foregoing matters, and shall coordinate the proposals and recommendations of all commissions and agencies as to legislation affecting crimes, crime control and criminal procedure. The Commission cooperates with the executive branch of state government, the Attorney General's Office and the judiciary who are, in turn, encouraged to cooperate with the Commission. The Commission also cooperates with governments and governmental agencies of other states and the United States.

So, it could conceivably be brought forward again, but probably not until the next legislative session, which is next year. Considering the General Assembly has just pushed this into Northam's lap, I'll give you two guesses where it goes next.

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Today's stinging defeat put Governor Ralph Northam in a black mood.

Brings to mind another happy day when Obama and company got the news that there would be no renewed ban on guns, mags, etc. I still remember the sour look on the bastards face like it was yesterday.

Who knows what the fanatical DEMs will do ?

this article offers some thoughts though

https://www.richmond.com/news/...29-8e21d7264aff.html

Virginia Senate panel puts off assault weapons ban until next year in setback for Northam

Legislation to ban assault weapons under an expanded definition won’t advance out of the General Assembly this year, a win for gun rights advocates and a setback for Gov. Ralph Northam’s gun control agenda.

Four Democrats joined Republicans to defeat the measure Monday in the Senate Judiciary Committee — a notable show of disunity in a party that emphasized gun control during its successful electoral bid for control of the legislature.

Democratic Sens. Creigh Deeds of Bath, John Edwards of Roanoke, Chap Petersen of Fairfax City, and Scott Surovell of Fairfax, voted to punt on the measure.

House Bill 961, introduced by Del. Mark Levine, D-Alexandria, would have banned possession of magazines that can hold more than 12 rounds and the sale of some types of semiautomatic rifles and pistols.

“HB961 went down by a 10 to 5 vote!" Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, tweeted after the vote. "Everybody’s hard work, Lobby Day, and sanctuary movement paid off!,” Van Cleave wrote. He was referring to the movement in which more than 100 Virginia counties, cities and towns pledged not to enforce gun laws they consider unconstitutional. Attorney General Mark Herring said the resolutions have no legal effect.

The Northam administration and gun control advocates expressed disapproval of the panel’s vote, arguing that the firearms that the measure would ban are weapons of war that don’t belong in the hands of everyday citizens.


“With the last election, many had thought that the antiquated political thinking around guns was over — but today a few Democratic senators showed that they are still stuck in the past,” said Lori Haas, the state director for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, whose daughter was injured in the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting.

The measure presented to lawmakers on Monday included weaker penalties than the version Levine initially introduced. It also allowed current owners of restricted firearms to keep them, only banning sales, transfers and imports.

The changes weren’t enough to convince some Democrats in the committee. After little debate among lawmakers, the panel voted to kick the bill to next year’s session, calling for a study of the legislation by the Virginia Crime Commission.

“The votes in the Senate have not existed to pass the bill since we gaveled in" Jan. 8, "and the bill has numerous issues that needed to be refined,” Surovell said in a statement posted to Facebook defending his vote.

He said that increasing regulation of assault rifles is “a concept which I fully support.”

Deeds, Edwards and Petersen could not be immediately reached for comment.

Republicans unified in their opposition of the bill, joined by a few dozen gun rights advocates who flooded the committee room to speak against the measure.

The measure would have banned the import, sale and transfer of a semiautomatic rifle or pistol with a pistol grip, a second hand grip, a silencer or a folding stock, among other characteristics — subject to a class 6 felony punishable by up to five years in prison.

It would have also banned possession of magazines that can hold more than 12 rounds of ammunition, subject to a Class 1 misdemeanor punishable by up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine. The sale of such magazines would be subject to a class 6 felony.

The House had cleared the measure last week on a 51-48 vote, mostly along party lines. In that chamber, four of 55 Democrats broke with their party to oppose the ban: Dels. Lee Carter of Manassas, Steve Heretick of Portsmouth and Roslyn Tyler of Sussex voted against the bill; Kelly Convirs-Fowler of Virginia Beach did not cast a vote, though she was in the chamber.

House Speaker Eileen Filler-Corn criticized the Senate panel’s vote in a statement Monday.

"The Democratic platform last fall was very clear,” Filler-Corn said. “The [House] delivered on our promise to take action to keep those weapons off our streets. To call today's vote by the Senate Judiciary Committee a disappointment would be an understatement."

wait till Nov 2021 and you will really be disappointed

Alena Yarmosky, a spokeswoman for the Northam administration, said of the vote in a statement: “While the governor is disappointed in today’s vote, he fully expects the crime commission to give this measure the detailed review that senators called for. We will be back next year."

The Northam administration, she said, remains hopeful about the seven other measures in its gun control package as it moves through the legislature.

The House already cleared the eight measures the administration is pitching. The package was not as a successful in the Senate, where just three of the eight measures passed without major amendments and two advanced with changes the House did not adopt.

The chambers will have to work out differences on bills that cleared the chambers in the coming weeks ahead of the session's scheduled March 7 adjournment.

Are you wondering what look was on Mark Levine's face as the Virginia Senate Judiciary Committee voted to not move forward on HB961, the "assault weapons" ban and magazine confiscation bill, for the year.

Video here:

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosa.../1229418227656282113


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can you pick out the DEMs ?

In the interim, I e-mailed Sen. Surovell to thank him for his vote. We won this round, there will be others.

I told my wife last night that come tomorrow she may be married to a criminal..

Thank God I’m not!

To tell the truth I am surprised that Edwards voted to table the bill. He has been too slick for toooo long.

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Originally posted by sdy:
Are you wondering what look was on Mark Levine's face as the Virginia Senate Judiciary Committee voted to not move forward on HB961, the "assault weapons" ban and magazine confiscation bill, for the year.

Video here:

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosa.../1229418227656282113


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can you pick out the DEMs ?

Sweet! But somebody should have kicked Levine in the twins on his way out of that room.

I'd like to thank all the forum members that fought this.

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
I'd like to thank all the forum members that fought this.

I'll name a few specifically: you, Skins2881, fpuhan, and especially sdy and DSgrouse for delving into and sharing the details, and to stickman for starting the thread. That's certainly not to shortchange anyone else who has contributed to this forum, but these members stand out to me in particular. Thank you, each and every one of you, who wrote, called, emailed, and prompted others (like me) to do the same.

Let's take a moment to relax and breathe, and then jump right back into the anti-gunners in the legislature with both feet. As my old friend Steve would say, "stomp a mudhole in 'em, and then stomp it dry."

This is what democracy looks like..........which is why Leftists hate it.