^^^After reading the article and VSSA's comments, it dawned on me that perhaps this bill was deliberately undersold on impacts (like as I had mentioned in my e-mail to my Senator; it could outlaw almost all semi-auto handguns given the language). Four alert D Senators apparently thought so too. HB961 was a Trojan Horse in a sense if I may use my 8th grade Greek Mythology class knowledge. Perhaps next year if they try to bring it forward, the pretense at least will not be hidden.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
we can call them an let them know their choices dictate which campaign we back with our wallets and I figure the little dictator will have been smacked down a bit by then.

I really hope this thread stays alive as a constant reminder to Virginians that we MUST take solid action at the polls, and we must CONSTANTLY let legislators know where we stand.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...weapons-ban-n2561468

Joe Biden Voices His Anger as Virginia Senate Committee Rejects 'Assault Weapons' Ban

When the bill was defeated, a majority of those in the committee room, including county sheriffs, broke out in celebration.

"Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are designed for one purpose—to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. There is no reason to have these weapons of war in our communities," Biden said in a press release.

"I commend the Virginia legislature for the steps they have taken to enact sensible gun safety measures, but I'm disappointed that the measure to limit the sale of assault weapons and to ban high-capacity magazines will not have the opportunity for a vote in the Virginia Senate," Biden continued. "People are dying everyday. We cannot continue to delay action."

Virginia House Delegate Mark Levine, who had been pushing for HB961, thanked Biden for the statement and promised they "will be back."

Speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates Eileen Filler-Corn said, "The Democratic platform last fall was very clear. Limiting access to weapons of war used in mass murder was a key part of that platform. The House of Delegates delivered on our promise to take action to keep those weapons off our streets."

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Joe Biden Voices His Anger as Virginia Senate Committee Rejects 'Assault Weapons' Ban

Hey, Joe, take your "two blast" shotgun and take a hike. Leave the rest of us alone.

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Originally posted by sdy:
"Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are designed for one purpose—to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. There is no reason to have these weapons of war in our communities," Biden said in a press release.

The Founders of this great nation would beg to differ with you, Joey.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by sdy:
Are you wondering what look was on Mark Levine's face as the Virginia Senate Judiciary Committee voted to not move forward on HB961, the "assault weapons" ban and magazine confiscation bill, for the year.

Video here:

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosa.../1229418227656282113


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can you pick out the DEMs ?

Sweet! But somebody should have kicked Levine in the twins on his way out of that room.

Who is the woman on his left and who are blue tie guy and yellow tie guy?

Now, here's a real irony:

Breitbart is reporting a study that states there is "no evidence" assault weapons bans have any effect on reducing mass shootings.

We should keep this link, and send it to legislators like that idiot Mark Levine in Virginia, who sponsored HB961.

The irony? The study was published by the Johns Hopkins BLOOMBERG School of Public Health!

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
The irony? The study was published by the Johns Hopkins BLOOMBERG School of Public Health!

Awesome.

I'll be storing that article as PDF for use later, that's for sure.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by thunderson:
we can call them an let them know their choices dictate which campaign we back with our wallets and I figure the little dictator will have been smacked down a bit by then.

I really hope this thread stays alive as a constant reminder to Virginians that we MUST take solid action at the polls, and we must CONSTANTLY let legislators know where we stand.

First, I promise you, I'm going to make sure it doesn't die.

Also I just picked up two of these. $5 per mag goes to VCDL.

Don't get too excited, the study did find two delightfully repressive laws were effective. I can only get the press release, not the actual study.

https://www.jhsph.edu/news/new...-mass-shootings.html

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Firearm purchaser licensing laws that require an in-person application or fingerprinting are associated with an estimated 56 percent fewer fatal mass shootings in states that have them, according to a new study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

and

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The researchers also found evidence that laws banning large-capacity magazines, defined as those that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, were associated with significant reductions in the rate of fatal mass shootings with four or more fatalities and the number killed in those shootings. The size and precision of the estimated effects of LCM bans varied across many statistical analyses presented in study.

My wife and I each got one on Lobby Day. Is there someone who is selling them?

That's pretty cool, Skins.
I've done a little laser work on ABS -- it turns out really nicely!

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Originally posted by kr350psd:
My wife and I each got one on Lobby Day. Is there someone who is selling them?

https://laseredgetactical.com/

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Originally posted by vthoky:
That's pretty cool, Skins.
I've done a little laser work on ABS -- it turns out really nicely!

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Originally posted by kr350psd:
My wife and I each got one on Lobby Day. Is there someone who is selling them?

https://laseredgetactical.com/

I know nothing about the company I bought it from, should have probably cut out name in post. Not an endorsement for company, impulse buy from FB post.

I come back in peace and in a better place.

I offer the following insight given to me by an old work acquaintance from when I was assigned to the policy team of two House members (I was a military Congressional fellow for 18 months - '09-10). This gentleman was one of the only staffers who could bring his dog throughout O'Neal bldg...(he carried some weight, for what it's worth).

Immediately following Columbine (like nanoseconds), a shift was made in the Pharma industry around D.C.. A big shift. Deals were made, these deals have become an art-form. The accusation here is that Pharma became petrified such school shooting(s) would be 'tied' to their mood-altering drugs (many $billions...). The only plausible scape-goat in this scenario is the gun. Blame the gun non-stop, ad-nauseam, etc., etc. and the notion that these medicines are destroying the empathy part of the brain fades away just like magic. For the Pharma industry - problem solved.

I realize this subjects me to all manners of "...that's just silly!" labels and black helicopters and such, so be kind with your attacks towards my mental stability (I am an old retired guy thanking God for each day).

Huh?

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Originally posted by SteadyHand:
I come back in peace and in a better place.

I offer the following insight given to me by an old work acquaintance from when I was assigned to the policy team of two House members (I was a military Congressional fellow for 18 months - '09-10). This gentleman was one of the only staffers who could bring his dog throughout O'Neal bldg...(he carried some weight, for what it's worth).

Immediately following Columbine (like nanoseconds), a shift was made in the Pharma industry around D.C.. A big shift. Deals were made, these deals have become an art-form. The accusation here is that Pharma became petrified such school shooting(s) would be 'tied' to their mood-altering drugs (many $billions...). The only plausible scape-goat in this scenario is the gun. Blame the gun non-stop, ad-nauseam, etc., etc. and the notion that these medicines are destroying the empathy part of the brain fades away just like magic. For the Pharma industry - problem solved.

I realize this subjects me to all manners of "...that's just silly!" labels and black helicopters and such, so be kind with your attacks towards my mental stability (I am an old retired guy thanking God for each day).

I uderstand exactly what you are saying.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Huh?

The bottom line is there exists a good reason the Democrats are so staunchly trying to blame guns. It would seem like they have a gun derangement syndrome, but they don't. What they have is a ton of money being donated to their campaigns/coffers by big-Pharma - and those donations aren't to support their drug R&D efforts, etc., like you would reasonably assume. Instead, those donations are so the Dems would blame 'scary' guns/hi-cap mags (or guns in general) for school/mass shootings. This in turn takes our eyes off of the notion that a common thread for many mass shooters (particularly the younger set) is that they have been patients given SSRIs and other behavior-based meds. Again, I don't usually promote conspiracy theories (this is my firs ever); however, you can't deny how effective this type of approach has been - blame the NRA, not big-Pharma. It's pretty clever.

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"Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are designed for one purpose—to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. There is no reason to have these weapons of war in our communities," Biden said

weapons of war hmmmmmm


Some Virginia stats

VA population 8,001,024

est of gun owners: 29.3% that would be 2,344,300

VA concealed handgun permits: 429,837 active

in Virginia during 2018, there were 284 firearm related murders and nonnegligent manslaughters


Over 2,000,000 gun owners but only 284 firearms murders

and w stats like that, DEMs want to turn hundreds of thousands of Virginians (maybe over a million) into felons

from a 2017 nationwide study,

41 % of REPs own a gun,
only 16 % of DEMs owned a gun


https://www.statista.com/stati...y-party-affiliation/

https://www.vsp.virginia.gov/Crime_in_Virginia.shtm

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Originally posted by sdy:

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"Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are designed for one purpose—to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. There is no reason to have these weapons of war in our communities," Biden said

weapons of war hmmmmmm


Some Virginia stats

VA population 8,001,024

est of gun owners: 29.3% that would be 2,344,300

VA concealed handgun permits: 429,837 active

in Virginia during 2018, there were 284 firearm related murders and nonnegligent manslaughters


Over 2,000,000 gun owners but only 284 firearms murders

and w stats like that, DEMs want to turn hundreds of thousands of Virginians (maybe over a million) into felons

from a 2017 nationwide study,

41 % of REPs own a gun,
only 16 % of DEMs owned a gun


https://www.statista.com/stati...y-party-affiliation/

https://www.vsp.virginia.gov/Crime_in_Virginia.shtm

Of the 284 gun related murders, I bet 75% were guns illegally owned.

Laura Ingraham on good Virginians' win:

(Link)