Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum filed a controversial series of changes to the country’s constitution that would essentially block any investigation or action by foreign law enforcement agencies without their permission. The provisions could enable Mexico to criminally pursue anyone involved in those investigations. The changes come after the United States designated six Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations and announced the intent to eradicate them.

This week, Sheinbaum filed a series of changes to the country’s constitution that, if approved by the legislative branch, would change Articles 40 and 19 of Mexico’s constitution.

“What we want to make clear in the face of this designation is that we do not negotiate sovereignty,” Sheinbaum said. “This cannot be an opportunity on the part of the United States to invade our sovereignty. So, they can name it whatever they want, but with Mexico, it is collaboration and coordination, never subordination, not interference, and much less invasion.”

Sheinbaum has been harshly criticized by political opponents and news outlets in Mexico in the past for appearing to be trying to protect drug cartels from the U.S. government.

In the case of Article 40, Sheinbaum is proposing to add wording that Mexico will not accept any interference, intervention, or other foreign act that would damage the nation’s sovereignty, integrity, and independence. The wording also prohibits violations of Mexican territory via land, sea, or air.

The amendment reads in Spanish: “Also, we will not consent to any intervention in any investigation or prosecution without the express authorization and collaboration of the Mexican State within the framework of the applicable laws.”

The second article that would be changed is Article 19, which would impose the strictest penalties, including prison without bond, for Mexican nationals and foreigners who take part in any violations of Article 40 or weapons violations.

The proposed changes come soon after, as Breitbart Texas reported, the U.S. Department of State formally designated six Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations (FTOs). The designation prohibits U.S. citizens, foreign governments, and financial institutions from working with or protecting those organizations and provides prosecutors with a new series of criminal charges against anyone providing aid or support to these organizations.

Looks like Mexico has declared war by letting the armed cartels cross our borders.

Oblige them.

She was the presidential candidate the cartels allowed to live.

Make Mexico an offer they cannot refuse. Not one American dime. An armed border that is a deadly no man’s land, and no crossing back and forth at will; shut down ALL ports of entry. No trains, planes, or automobiles. Every cartel member we catch trying to breach the border gets obliterated.

Virtue signaling by a country/government that has no moral code isn’t going to work out well.
We need to strongly encourage countries south of the border to clean up their act so starting with Mexico sounds like a good start.
There’s a new sheriff in town but apparently some didn’t get the memo.

I have read in several sources that the cartels are the 5th largest employer in Mexico with around 200 thousand people employed.

I have no idea if this is correct and if they are counting people who are on the payroll and take bribes as employed.

That is a lot of people.

Point of order. The cartels you are protecting have been invading the USA for decades. There are portions of our national parks that they currently own. They have murdered our citizens and officers on our soil.

Don't talk to me about sovereignty

Mexico is our neighbor, but not our friend.

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“What we want to make clear in the face of this designation is that we do not negotiate sovereignty,” Sheinbaum said. “This cannot be an opportunity on the part of the United States to invade our sovereignty. So, they can name it whatever they want, but with Mexico, it is collaboration and coordination, never subordination, not interference, and much less invasion.”

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Her actual reasoning aside... She is purposely conflating national sovereignty to obscure their abject failure to decay and destroy their criminal organizations. The concept alone will only bring more misery to Mexico. Good luck to her.. she revealed her masters now.

The cartels need to die, period.

Knowing how all these shithole countries operate it’s no real surprise to me that she would be doing this, they probably get bribed by these cartels to be allowed to operate openly like this. Why would she cut off her funding source?


Makes me think of that scene from Traffic:

Tourist Woman: Don't you wanna know what kind of car it is?
Tourist Man: Yeah, it's a brown Ford Explorer...
Tourist Woman: - Look, it was right here, it's been stolen, I wanna file a report.
Manolo Sanchez: A report, will not help you find your car.
Javier Rodriguez: Eh; the police won't find your car.
Tourist Woman: You ARE the police!
Javier Rodriguez: [he writes down a number and hands it to her] You gonna call this man... and he'll find your car for you.
Tourist Man: I don't-I don't get it.
Tourist Woman: How is this guy gonna know who has our car?
Javier Rodriguez: ...the police will tell him.
Tourist Man: Why-why will they tell him and they won't tell us?
Tourist Woman: Because we pay him, stupid. Right? Then he pays the police and suddenly our car appears.
Javier Rodriguez: Es, es, es correct, es correct.
Tourist Woman: [quietly] Just give it to him, alright?
Tourist Man: I know.
Tourist Woman: Give him the money!
Javier Rodriguez: Let's start moving to the sidewalk.
Tourist Man: [offering the money] Take it.
Javier Rodriguez: Nononono.
Tourist Woman: No, please, take it!
Javier Rodriguez: Nononono, nono, let's start moving to the sidewalk, to the sidewalk, let's go to the sidewalk.
[disgusted, the couple start to walk off]
Javier Rodriguez: Call the man! Have a nice day.

We (us and the Mexicans) should go Clear and Present Danger on the cartels, only without, as happened in the book and movie, pussing out when the PR got too bad.

She doesn't want us to interrogate, investigate, prosecute......

I'm ok with all of that. I was always impressed with Godfinger's response to James Bond:

James Bond: "Do you expect me to talk?"

Goldfinger: "No Mr. Bond! I expect you to die!"

Every time I’ve brought up annexing Mexico here, it’s been a whole bunch of posts essentially telling me that I’m an idiot, but actually taking control of the country is the only way we’ll have any hope of actually cleaning out the cartels and the corruption. Everything else is a half measure. Yes, I know it will never happen. Trump’s efforts are for sure better than what we have been doing the last four years, though.

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She was the presidential candidate the cartels allowed to live.

And that's all you need to know about why she does what she does.

With enough money and fear, the possibilities are near endless.

I'm not worked up about the government of Mexico saying that a foreign country should not be able to operate in their country without the consent and cooperation of Mexico... that is only logical, and it is how every country should see their own land...

Where we should get worked up is when we request their consent and cooperation and that is denied. Then we have a problem.

Of course anything on our side of the border they have no say over, period. If they refuse to allow and assist on their side of the border, then we can discuss appropriate responses.

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Originally posted by egregore:
She was the presidential candidate the cartels allowed to live.

This, in spades.

Mexico's inaction in controlling their portion of the US/Mexico border and their failure to eliminate or reduce the cartels is tantamount to an act of war. Identify the cartel leadership, their infrastructure and support facilities and then cruise missile the scumbags!

Sounds like she is on the Cartel payroll.

I have a hard time believing that we don't know (or couldn't know) the exact location of any cartel leaders, and their lieutenants, at any given time. I completely agree with Clear and Present Dangering them. Whatever it takes for them to wake up dead tomorrow, I'm OK with. A just war and just punishment. Get it done.

Then, turn the entire southern border into a no man's land 500 yards wide. A few million landmines, remote controlled and motion-sensed 50 cals positioned every 100 yards, and continuous (armed) drone surveillance.

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Originally posted by thumperfbc:
I'm not worked up about the government of Mexico saying that a foreign country should not be able to operate in their country without the consent and cooperation of Mexico... that is only logical, and it is how every country should see their own land...

Where we should get worked up is when we request their consent and cooperation and that is denied. Then we have a problem.

I agree. Then we have a problem.

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An armed border that is a deadly no man’s land, and no crossing back and forth at will; shut down ALL ports of entry. No trains, planes, or automobiles. Every cartel member we catch trying to breach the border gets obliterated.

They are going to be obliterated. The Mexicans can cooperate, or not. It would be better if they do.
They deserve the death penalty.