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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Zing! That's awesome!   "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
Nicely done! Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon  |
When I saw this on Fox I chuckled. Nice upper cut mister President. One more for the knockout please. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
What is stopping Trump from having the SOTU at a location of HIS choosing? Nancy really stepped in it with that stunt she tried. | |||
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| bobbin' and weavin |
The President just saved us a shit ton of money for Nancy's in flight alcohol bill. | |||
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Equal Opportunity Mocker |
Tangential question: why is it that the President (and/or his staff) feels the need to release a transcript of his speech PRIOR to the televising of the speech? I've always wondered why this is done, seems like you're just giving ammo to the opposition. Why not just say "we're not releasing the transcript beforehand, but will be pleased to get you a copy after the President's message has been delivered." Makes the delivery one that is real time for the opposition, and their response is stifled and "best guess." ________________________________________________ "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving." -Dr. Adrian Rogers | |||
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| It's not you, it's me.  |
She still has her broom for transportation though. | |||
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| We Only Kneel to Almighty God |
Looks like MAGA is working! | |||
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| Low Profile Member |
Brilliant. I know the house speaker has power but nothing compared to the POTUS. She is not as bright as he is and she shows that by picking a fight she will never win. | |||
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| I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
I literally laughed out loud at that! President Trump kills me! MAGA! | |||
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https://townhall.com/columnist...aker-pelosi-n2539186 You're Out of Control, Speaker Pelosi by Joel Goodman Why did I see this when I went to check my email? From Harvard no less: “Larry Tribe, professor of Constitutional law at Harvard Law School, says that as long as Pelosi is opposed to the State of the Union happening, as scheduled, on Jan. 29, it won’t happen.” “The form in which the State of the Union address is delivered isn’t constitutionally specified, but if it’s to be delivered as a Joint Session of Congress as has become the custom, the House and Senate must jointly adopt a resolution to schedule it. Without that, he can’t come. Neither chamber has adopted such a resolution yet, and as long as Pelosi opposes it, it’s DOA.” This is not a constitutional issue that leaves any room for debate, regardless of what Mr. Tribe may say. Yes - the Constitution does not dictate a particular way in which the president shall provide the Congress with the information on the State of the Union. But, recent tradition has that it be delivered before a joint session of Congress. The president could decide to deliver it in what has been the most recent and accepted tradition by exercising his power to convene both Houses. Article 2 Executive “Section. 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them ....” There is much clarity given to the issue in a Special Memorandum by William P. Barr, then Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel in 1989. He also served as Attorney General from 1991– 1993 for the first Bush administration. Most importantly, he is the current Trump nominee to replace Jeff Sessions. One would assume he would advise the president on the constitutionality of convening both Houses of Congress for whatever purpose the president deemed “extraordinary.” In his 1989 Memorandum Barr points out that “President Truman convened both Houses of Congress to consider the questions of inflation and foreign aid.” I believe a stalemate over a border crisis qualifies as an extraordinary occasion. Here is an excerpt form Mr. Barr’s special Memo: “Both the text of the Constitution and the purpose of the provision indicate that the President’s constitutional power to convene either House extends to periods within sessions of Congress. His power is stated in the broadest possible terms; it is not limited only to when Congress is not in session.3 This is appropriate to the purposes of the clause — namely, to ensure that the President can summon Congress to Washington so that Congress and the President together may face a matter of national import.” The president could deliver his message any time, anywhere, even have a written message hand delivered, as was done early on in our history. If President Trump considers the building of a Southern barrier a national security issue and an extraordinary occasion, and he would like “to recommend to Congress for their consideration” his plan for the barrier’s construction, it is well within his power to convene both Houses of Congress. The Speaker is the Speaker; she is not the landlord of the House. It is the people’s House and the chief executive is in control of the government. The decision on how the message to Congress is to be delivered is within the discretion of the president. Traditions can be made and they can be changed. The president can convene both houses pursuant to the Constitution and deliver his message at that time, and since there is no vote to be taken after the president's address, there is no need for a quorum in either house; and so if the Democrats decided to boycott his address, they could. If Ms. Pelosi does not want to attend because she feels that there would be insufficient security that would be her decision to make, but when the president convenes the House and the Senate, one would expect that the Speaker should be there. Her refusal to attend would not create a constitutional crisis; it would just be another incredibly disrespectful act heaped upon a growing pile of disrespectful acts committed by the Democrats over the past two tears. The Democrats didn’t seem to be much interested in what the president said during his last address, so it effectively would make no difference if they did stay home. --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
I'd love to see Nancy explain exactly what she was going to accomplish in a seven-day trip (counting travel, right?) to Belgium, Egypt and Afghanistan.
Nothing but whatever embarrassment there may be in admitting he was driven from the House. OTOH, it's only tradition that he give the SOTU speech before the assembled House and Senate. | |||
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 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
Simply to force another missed payroll | |||
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She best be careful for what she wishes for - Trump could very well pull a RIF (Reduction in Force) - course I believe at this point he is simply trying to cause more bad optics for the Dems than people out of jobs /but I would love to see him do the RIF... | |||
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| Too soon old, too late smart |
Nancy can multitask. She can step on a rake while wearing high heels and caring that big ol’ gavel.  | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
"Sadly," She is indeed a sad case.... Old Quote of the Day from the Los Angeles Times Columnist: "Frankly, I don't know what it is about California, but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office. I'm not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine, even comes close. When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington, we're Number One. There's no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on 'Macbeth'. The four of them are like jackasses who happen to possess the gift of blab. You don't know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words." Columnist Burt Prelutsky, Los Angeles Times "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
The fun part, and the part that would drive Nancy up a tree, is where he would RIF. Those Dems still think it's the 19th Century and that they're entitled to reward their supporters and institutionalize them by granting them permanent jobs. There's the Deep State, and there's larding up Dem-favored agencies so that (in the DC pecking order) they're all powerful and well-funded and stuff. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
This is exactly right. It is an attempt to deny Trump a chance to give a speech straight to a large audience. It has nothing to do with RBG. Some of you guys watch too much "House of Cards." The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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