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Maybe some exaggeration, but worth the read. https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...dkt_nbr=010502lpkih9 NATO chief Mark Rutte on Thursday warned allies to prepare for another world war, saying Europe is "Russia’s next target." Speaking at a security event in Berlin, the secretary general painted a stark picture of the continent's future, saying Russia could be ready to use force against NATO "within five years" and urging Europeans to "shift to a wartime mindset." He said allies must prepare for conflict on the scale their "grandparents or great-grandparents endured," including mass mobilization and widespread destruction. Rutte argued that Moscow’s full-scale war on Ukraine, backed by Chinese technology and Iranian and North Korean arms, proves the Kremlin is rebuilding an "empire" and sees free European societies as a threat. He warned that if Russian President Vladimir Putin crushes Ukraine and reaches NATO's borders, alliance members would face “a truly gargantuan” surge in defense costs and a far higher risk of direct attack. Rutte hailed this year's NATO summit in The Hague, where leaders agreed to drive total defense-related spending to 5% of GDP by 2035 — including 3.5% on core military outlays, far above the long-standing 2% benchmark. Germany alone is planning to reach 3.5% by 2029, which Rutte called "staggering," and he pressed other European governments to follow. At the same time, NATO is launching new operations such as "Eastern Sentry" and "Baltic Sentry" to reinforce the alliance's eastern flank and protect critical infrastructure after Russian drones violated Polish airspace and undersea cables were cut in the Baltic. Rutte also touted a NATO program known as PURL (Prioritized Ukraine Requirements List), which funnels U.S.-made Patriot missiles and other air-defense munitions to Ukraine using allied money. More than two-thirds of member states have signed on, with around $4 billion pledged so far. But while the NATO chief insists "the time for action is now," his rhetoric will raise eyebrows among conservatives who see Europe’s elites again reaching for American firepower while asking voters at home to accept higher taxes, inflation and what Rutte openly calls "emergency budgets." In his speech, he acknowledged that such a buildup would mean painful trade-offs across domestic programs. In February, Rutte tried to reassure Washington that Europe is finally shouldering more of the burden and he gave credit to President Donald Trump. The secretary-general noted it was the president, "when he was Trump 45 and now Trump 47," who consistently demanded that European allies and Canada spend more on defense, and argued that the new 5% target is exactly what Trump has been asking for since his first term. Rutte also conceded in other Berlin remarks that "President Trump wants to end the bloodshed now, and he’s the only one who can get Putin to the negotiating table," effectively acknowledging that any serious peace push will have to run through Washington and Trump’s White House. | ||
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They WANT war with Russia, it's so insane. Trump is right saying that NATO is a Cold War relic and needs to go away. | |||
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Well, that part is good... But I think the US should withdraw from NATO. It's time for us to realize that Europe, under the EU and with mass migration is not going to be a reliable ally or share our values. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I thought Russia was close to tapped out in Ukraine. Do they have resources for all of Europe, besides nuclear? | |||
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I'm very interested in comparing NATO members' % of GDP spending on military in June '26 (i.e. 100% Trump) vs current June '25 (i.e. still Biden's lackluster influence). I had Google AI pull up the June '25 numbers and compare to June '16 numbers. NATO hit 2.76% combined which up up from 2.4% combined. More importantly, in 2016 only 5 of 32 members were meeting 2% threshold and now it's 26 of 32 members. Italy, Canada, and Spain have approx 0% increase and remain below 2%. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Huh? They can't hardly get what they want in the Donbas, that's a serious reach right there. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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We bailed them out in two world wars and a cold war last century. And they still hate us. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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NATO is like HR, they need to act like nothing will work unless they are involved, it's all to justify his job and NATO's existence. It really should have been dissolved with the dissolution of the USSR | |||
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Assuming any of this is valid, the wild card in all of this could be the (immigrant and invading) Muslims. My point being, it likely wouldn't take much to topple European democracies with them in the mix. "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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The UK, on it's present trajectory, will be Muslim majority by 2050 or so. Muslims don't believe in democracy, at least not once they become the majority. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Anyone that comes to this conclusion apparently isn't even smart enough to understand why Russia 'annexed' Crimea in the first place back in 2014...Not even a clue! Russia has NO desires on greater Europe!This message has been edited. Last edited by: nhracecraft, ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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That guy is clearly an idiot. He can go hug a Rutte. | |||
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For all I care, Russia can have them. Kurt Schlichter: There’s Nothing Funnier Than Fussy, Furious Euroweenies
"The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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Seems like they should pay more attention to chicom and things happening in the asian theatre. Seems like daily provocations including the contentious build-ups (man made islands in disputed territories). "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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This is my thought as well, if Russia been bogged down in Ukraine for the last few years why would anyone think they're prepared to invade all of Europe unless they go nuclear. Didn't they get booted out of Afghanistan a couple decades ago???? | |||
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The USA has protected Europe from itself for 80 years, that's enough. The true enemies of Europe are not Russia, but the millions of invaders that have been encouraged by the Euro leaders to relocate from North Africa, MidEast, and their former colonies. Trump is re-asserting the original meaning of the Monroe Doctrine: Europe stay out of the Western Hemisphere and the USA will stay out of your squabbles. The Teddy Roosevelt Corollary to Monroe Doctrine was/is the USA will intervene in Western Hemisphere internal issues when it directly affects American interests. Trump is further endorsing that concept (i.e. "drug runner interdiction" against narco-states in South America). The ChiComs are on a naval buildup program that is similar to the Great Britain vs Imperial Germany naval arms race of the early 1900s. That is what is drawing the USA attention away from Europe and toward the Pacific/Asia area. Get your act together Europe, or you won't have a westernized Europe, but an Islamic Caliphate. --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! “Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.” "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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The UK can no longer be considered our friend and DJT knows it. _________________________ | |||
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makes one wonder how good it would be if Big Pharma and the Military Industrial Complex did not control everything,,, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Who's going to fight Rutte's War? There were protests in Germany over legislation to Register for service. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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At the end of the day if Europe wants to see the cause of their problem, just look in the mirror. The KGB boss will exploit the weakness to his advantage knowing that most of Europe is emasculated by their own stupidity - the most notable exception is Italy. | |||
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