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I honestly don't think he will leave Clemson any time soon. Too bright a future there and too many successes await him. Hell, he may end up breaking Saban's win/loss championship record. He's young enough. Who knows, time will tell ... and any given Saturday and all that. | |||
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First half was excellent, and (as an ACC fan and underdog fan in general) I was worried the time of posession being so heavily in BAMAs favor would lead to the Clemson defense crumbling. They held strong, forced and took advantage of mistakes. The goal line stand to get the ball back was impressive - and frankly sealed the deal. UA couldn’t get up after that. I don’t see why Dabo would leave what he’s built, I’m sure Clemson would pay him whatever it takes, unless he feels he wants to go to the pros. He’s building a dynasty from a broken program - unfortunately, my Deacons are in their division and have to face them yearly. | |||
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I think the biggest challenge for Dabo will be to keep quality staff. When a program becomes successful to the point that Alabama's and Clemson's programs have become, other teams and universities look to take staff from those programs. They go where opportunity knocks ... they all do.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Hobbs, | |||
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What a wonderful, wonderful game! 0:01 | |||
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Hell Syracuse gave Clemson a better game than the Tide. Clemson had to pull out their win very very late in the 4th Qtr.    Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Alabama Clemson Tide.  ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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I am in the Atlanta airport now. There are large numbers of Clemenson fans in orange and Alabama fans in red. Orange is happy and talking a lot. Red is walking with heads down, acting like someone just beat them with a stick. Oh... Wait a second...They were. | |||
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First Bama pass play was a timing route completion to the right. Herbstreit said," I don't care who you are, you can't defend that." Next play, same route to the left side= pick 6 Clemson. Guess it can be defended, Kirk. Corso still knows his football. Just before the Sugar Bowl, he also said Big 12 football was "unwatchable". | |||
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One thing that seems to be glossed over in all of this; six players from the two teams were suspended for PEDs prior to the game. Coincidence? . | |||
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I didn't have a dog in that fight but it does prove the old truism, you don't win a championship on paper, you win it on the field. Congrats Clemson. | |||
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I know nothing of the Alabama players, but the trace amounts of ostarine the clemson players tested positive for were thought to come from incidental contamination of some other supplement or nutrition product. I expect their suspensions will eventually be overturned. | |||
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At one time, it was more or less on paper. They wound up with the consensus champion. __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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That pick gave Clemson D a huge amount of confidence and they never let up. Last two games, Sabin has been saying "we won't win next game if we play like that", and he was right. Congrats Clemson Tigers, someone finally took it to Alabama. Alabama football: For first time in Nick Saban era, Alabama experienced what it was like to play Alabama ANTA CLARA, Calif. — The question was simple, but Christian Miller needed a full 15 seconds to collect his thoughts and fight back tears. What happened out there? “It was just (pauses) a tough game,” Miller said in the postgame locker room. “I don’t think we played our best by any means. When it comes down to it, you can’t afford to have any mistakes. Eventually, they caught up to us.” Miller’s quote is both understated and the perfect explanation of what transpired on Monday night inside Levi Stadium. No. 1 Alabama, which had been completely dominant for much of the season, was dismantled by a better team. No. 2 Clemson stomped Alabama for 60 minutes en route to a 44-16 thrashing, the worst loss of Nick Saban’s tenure in Tuscaloosa. Towels over heads. Silence. Dejected looks. No smiles, no words, no answers. Senior Johnny Dwight couldn’t hide the tears. Senior running back Damien Harris had to be consoled by tight end Miller Forristall as they walked back to the locker room. There were blank stares on nearly every player and staff member’s faces. This was a completely new feeling for every single Alabama player. Sure, they’ve lost games — including the 2016 national championship to Clemson. But they’ve never lost like this. For the first time in the Saban era, Alabama found out what it’s like when teams face Alabama. That sense of hopelessness before halftime, knowing there’s a slim chance you have any shot of winning. Alabama took a 16-14 lead with 6:07 left in the second quarter, and didn’t score again. Clemson ripped off 30 consecutive points, and held the most prolific offense in Crimson Tide history scoreless for the second half. Revisionist history always makes all of look smarter, but this Alabama team had clear holes even as it ran through the regular season. They made uncharacteristic mistakes. The defense never gelled, and looked confused a lot throughout the season. The offense was greedy at times, instead of taking what the defense gave. “I think everybody bought in to the process and did everything we could,” Miller said. “I just think tonight wasn’t our best not, but you only get one shot at it.” The flaws manifested themselves in the turnovers and penalties. On Monday, Tua Tagovailoa threw two bad interceptions, one that was returned for a touchdown and another on a horrendous throw into triple coverage. “We always preach ‘next play’ mentality,” Miller said. “Even with some of the things early on, we had plenty of chances. But it’s a game of inches. Little things really matter in a game like this. We had opportunities like this that we let slip. It’s hard to have that happen in a game like this against a team that’s just as good as you are.” For as much as Alabama fans beat their chests over how Tagovailoa should have won the Heisman Trophy when the Tide beat Oklahoma, they should be equally as vocal about Tagovailoa being outplayed by Clemson freshman Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence missed some throws early, but that was about it. He looked as advertised, throwing dart after dart to carve up Alabama’s overmatched secondary. Lawrence racked up 347 yards and 3 touchdowns. Clemson’s offensive line stoned Alabama’s front, giving Lawrence a clean pocket for the majority of the night. Against 98 percent of the teams in the country, Alabama can make mistakes and still dominate its opponent. Clemson is in that two percent. Any time Alabama made even the smallest mistake, Clemson took advantage. Sometimes, it didn’t matter what Alabama did. Clemson’s receivers looked like 10-year NFL All-Pros while Alabama’s defensive backs did not. Clemson receiver Justyn Ross, a true freshman who Alabama coveted during the recruiting process, caught 6 passes for 153 yards and a score. Alabama couldn’t cover him. Alabama will have to deal with him and Lawrence for at least two more years. I’m not one to make any proclamations about the dynasty being dead. Alabama (likely) will be back again next year. They’re better than 98 percent of the country. But if there was one thing you could fall back on as an Alabama fan during this run, it’s that Saban’s teams never got blown out. Before tonight, a Saban-coached Alabama team had never lost by more than 14 points. This four-score shellacking erases that. Make no mistake, Clemson is neck-and-neck with Alabama and the Tigers return a ton of talent on offense next season, so they’ll be back as well. Alabama has felt this pain before. Two years ago in Tampa, Fla. The next year’s team bounced back to reclaim the national championship after a crushing defeat the year before. The players who return next year must do some serious soul-searching to figure out what they’re going to be next season. What they were Monday night wasn’t nearly good enough. | |||
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Yes, Coach Swinney was having the hot tub tested for Epsom salts, because that's where ostarine comes from...  That was a garbage PR answer. Both tests performed yielded positive results for the PED. I don't think it will get overturned. . | |||
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Can you post a link to your information on Alabama players being suspended for PED's? Congrats to Clemson, they gave Bama a beatdown last night. No sugar coating it. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Wasn't aware of this until I watched SportCenter this morning. Last night's game was the worst beat down (points wise) in Saban's career. And let's not gloss over it too quickly...Lee Corso was right again. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I sure hope not. The labs used are very careful in analyzing results. Additionally I believe another sample tested positive at a different lab. The failure to take responsibility concerns me. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He is a bit annoying but knowledgeable unlike Kirk and Tebow. | |||
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I've read some articles (e.g. Here is a good one by US anti-doping agency) on the ostarine and a few interesting facts: It's quite possible the athletes didn't intentionally cheat, but instead unknowingly bought a supplement laced with it. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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