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Originally posted by mark60:

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Wait for what? What part of this requires a change for GOA members?:

790.221 (3) Firearms in violation hereof which are lawfully owned and possessed under provisions of federal law are excepted.

I'd like to read it the same way but is the law null and void? It's been declared unconstitutional but until Congress changes the law is it still a law?

The law is not even 'really' null and void, it's just not enforced for everyone else NOT covered by the injunction. The law was declared unconstitutional on the grounds that the tax was eliminated/reduced to Zero $ and without the tax, the remaining requirements for the affected arms under the NFA have no constitutional basis. If a future Congress restores the tax, and potentially even increases it to who knows what, we would be right back where we started, or perhaps even worse off than we were.

The common use/get out there and buy everything you can for the common good is great an all, but that would only apply to a future case, not Silencer Shop v ATF anyway. Congress needs to act and change the law, amending (or repealing?) the NFA permanently.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I am only speculating now, but what would prevent a future Congress and President from passing a new registration requirement that had nothing to do with taxes? Nothing I can think of.

Luckily there is a lot of case law now, including SCOTUS decisions, to hamper any such future new requirements. They can pass it, but it will be challenged and likely overturned. For me, my concern is being on a registration list of some sort, which I am already, via Forms 4473 or holding a ccw license. Though I am getting old enough now that it is less of a concern.

In Utah, we can purchase without the Form 4473 with a valid UT ccw. It at least reduces one's database footprint at the federal level.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
And there is no fundamental requirement that anything that was permitted under a previous law or rule (or lack thereof) must be “grandfathered” under a new rule or law.

While completely true, I believe the sentiment to conform with any future restrictions is getting much less than it was even just a few years ago. With the rise of socialists and the violence on the left, conservatives appear more determined to fight for the 2A.

And really the best thing that could happen now or in the future is an injunction to stop it. This ensures that the left is tied up in court spending money (against the USG) and will almost certainly put the issue before SCOTUS before 2029.

Believing that Congress will act in our favor is a pipe dream.

I believe if we can give Trump a House and Senate Republican majority that he will push for 2A bills in our favor.

We need to go vote R in these midterms!!

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Originally posted by jljones:
Believing that Congress will act in our favor is a pipe dream.

I generally agree with this. But at least, we have congressman Andrew Clyde (of GA) to thank for getting the NFA taxes on SBRs, SBSs, AOWs and suppressors to zero in the OBBB Act, and from that, the successful challenge to the constitutionality of registration requirement on these weapons.

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Originally posted by HK Ag:
I believe if we can give Trump a House and Senate Republican majority that he will push for 2A bills in our favor.

We need to go vote R in these midterms!!

We’ve owned both chambers for nearly two years. Their main goal is re-election

Ok, for the ones who just wanna celebrate:



For those who want to keep pressing into the breach, here's a nice, long interview with Director Cekada:

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by HK Ag:
I believe if we can give Trump a House and Senate Republican majority that he will push for 2A bills in our favor.

We need to go vote R in these midterms!!

We’ve owned both chambers for nearly two years. Their main goal is re-election

I hate to sound jaded, but unfortunately, I agree with this. We had a chance to get these items removed from the NFA and the Parliamentarian and John Thune bungled it. An asshole said "nope" and a spineless fuckweasel said "ok." If this was going to get fixed in congress, there was never a better chance of it in almost a century, but the courts had to actually figure it out and give it to us. Now, that said, Brandon Herrera gives Trump tons of credit for it in the first video, and so do I.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Ok, for the ones who just wanna celebrate:

Celebrated in the previous page.

My LGS, here in Florida, is selling cans with just the 4473. I considered buying one yesterday when I got the new Gen 6s, but I need one like I need a tail so I passed.

Bob

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Wait for what? What part of this requires a change for GOA members?:

790.221 (3) Firearms in violation hereof which are lawfully owned and possessed under provisions of federal law are excepted.

Wait for this....

AG making it official not just peoples opinion or interpretation...

https://x.com/gunrights/status/2110072197738020932