I'm on board.

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Originally posted by 1s1k:
I don't know for sure because I couldn't find the article but I was told 47% of Amazon orders are for merchandise from China. Imagine the American dollars pouring into that country.

Amazon is in a tough spot in terms of their long term growth. First world manufacturers are not going to take the abuse that Walmart heaped upon them in the '90's so one of the few options for super cheap products is going to be China.

Amazon is pursuing various types of "branding" (their own in-house products)or any other methods to keep prices down and for products they can completely control. It'll be tough to find non Chinese products being sold by them.

Speaking of which, my new Fenix LD09 has a malfunctioning switch. Go figure.

V.

A couple of years ago I tried to find a US-produced stainless mug for my wife. We're talking about an extruded chunk of metal, that's all, yet I couldn't find a US-produced one. We can't produce extrusions? Sure we can, but it's CHEAPER to let the ChiComs do it. Now, that's just sad. This has to stop. The American people have to wean themselves off of these ultra-cheap goods. We have be willing to- literally- pay the price of having goods produced in America- using American materials- and made by American workers.

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Originally posted by Leemur:
I’m in a bit of a fix over this. I’ve been looking at battery powered chainsaws and I need new batteries for my Dewalt tools. I’ll go check now but I’ll bet most of that stuff is Chinese.

ETA: Well color me surprised, Dewalt has several plants here and a few in other countries including China.

While batteries are not cross compatible check Stihl for the chainsaw.

Yeah 18 and 20V batteries wouldn’t last in a chainsaw anyway. Shame but you can’t win them all.

We go back to work Monday and the shared coffee stations are off limits. (Because that is safer ) I tried to find a domestically manufactured thermos and you can't. Thermos, Alladin, Yeti all China produced.

My Weibang mower purchase will never happen now.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/We...37SCV-3IN1/304644825

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Originally posted by SHOOTIN BLANKS:
I tried to find a domestically manufactured thermos and you can't. Thermos, Alladin, Yeti all China produced.

Oh, I know. It's pathetic.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
My Weibang mower purchase will never happen now.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/We...37SCV-3IN1/304644825

800 bucks for a Chinese-made mower? Not in a million years.

I agree 100% I contacted my chemical suppliers awhile back to make sure the products we use to make our Cera-Hide and CPII coatings are sourced here in the USA

I also changed from feeding my cats Meow Mix as it is made overseas.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
We have be willing to- literally- pay the price of having goods produced in America- using American materials- and made by American workers.

Boss, you nailed it. Goods nowadays are artificially cheap, and we do need to wean off them and pay the normal rate. For giggles, I’ve looked at Sears catalogs from the 30’s, 60’s etc and compared goods (adjusted for inflation).

American-made goods are “expensive” relative to Chinese crap today... but adjusted for inflation, they are cheaper now than in the past. Buy once, cry once.

I just ordered a custom made range bag from WRB in Texas (they make some bags for LaRue as well). Unbelievably great quality, and downright affordable. Yes, the bag is probably $50 more than ChiCom... but it’s worth every penny of that.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
A couple of years ago I tried to find a US-produced stainless mug for my wife. We're talking about an extruded chunk of metal, that's all, yet I couldn't find a US-produced one. We can't produce extrusions? Sure we can, but it's CHEAPER to let the ChiComs do it. Now, that's just sad. This has to stop. The American people have to wean themselves off of these ultra-cheap goods. We have be willing to- literally- pay the price of having goods produced in America- using American materials- and made by American workers.

Get out the popcorn.

The reason products available to you and me and Para are mostly made in China is the price the American sellers see VS
the price of an American produced product.

You may be willing to pay more for an American made product.

But if a large number of Americans are not so willing then the seller will not sell enough to make a profit.

He is not pro Chinese or anti American.

He just needs to turn a profit.

You are a true Patriot Para, but you are in a very small Minority.

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Originally posted by George43:
The reason products available to you and me and Para are mostly made in China is the price the American sellers see VS
the price of an American produced product.

You may be willing to pay more for an American made product.

But if a large number of Americans are not so willing then the seller will not sell enough to make a profit.

Why in the world are you stating the obvious and re-stating things which have already been said in this thread? What's the point? You've told me nothing.

You can be my guest to have the attitude of "don't even try", but don't expect me to have the same.

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Originally posted by 1s1k:
I don't know for sure because I couldn't find the article but I was told 47% of Amazon orders are for merchandise from China. Imagine the American dollars pouring into that country.

I hate that I go to Amazon for so many things, and I wish they'd put a country of origin note in the description on every item they sell. (I'm sure they won't.)

I did, however, find the note on a pack I was looking to buy: China. Bonus: I just saved myself some money, and prevented a few American dollars from heading to China.

vthoky, can I send you back my klean kanteen, made in china and have you send me a American made one? . Seriously, I am proud to have it because you sent it. I will keep it forever. I will however do a little painting over at facebook as Para suggested. Even the President tweeted today to Buy American.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by 1s1k:
I don't know for sure because I couldn't find the article but I was told 47% of Amazon orders are for merchandise from China. Imagine the American dollars pouring into that country.

I hate that I go to Amazon for so many things, and I wish they'd put a country of origin note in the description on every item they sell. (I'm sure they won't.)

I did, however, find the note on a pack I was looking to buy: China. Bonus: I just saved myself some money, and prevented a few American dollars from heading to China.

On some items they used to tell you in the features and description section. Though I have not seen it listed for any item in quite some time.

Today I just sourced the electric fans for the new steer car build (pictured in this thread here). When we did the other build last summer, our ops manager sourced Chicom fans that cost about $150. For the new build, I was ready to have some custom one’s built from a place in NJ for $1400, and they looked fantastic. Heavy duty and professionally built. Then the salesman started into a TDS rant about Covid-19, so I hung up and ordered Flex-a-Lite fans, made in USA I’m told, for $585.

I’m paying almost four times more to get USA built fans, and I’m happy about it. You know why? Yes, it’s nice to not do business with the PRC, but it’s even better to have quality. I’m willing to pay the price for good quality built, USA made products. I can’t be alone. MAGA

So I just bought a Colt 14" soft padded handgun case from a company out of Montana. Opened up the case and there it was, a Made in China tag. I sent a nice email to the company in Montana as well as Colt.com with my disgust. Waiting on replies, will update.

Then I logged into SigForum and saw this. Coincidence? Nope, we all feel this way and I'm glad Para spoke out on the mainpage.

Thanks boss.

Yeah, I think the world of Bill Geissele and his rifle parts, especially his triggers. All of that is made in the US, of course. So, I suppose I have no right to complain when I order a trigger and receive it with a complimentary Geissele ball cap and it has a Made in China label.

This just seems wrong to me and this is reinforced when I order from other companies. I love Blue Force Gear slings. Every using AR15 I own (and my SCAR 17S) wears Blue Force Gear slings. Well, they, too, send swag to their customers, but the ball cap sent to me by Blue Force has a tag that says Made in America.

If you're going to buy stuff to give to your customers free, so that it is a loss for you from the beginning, why not do it right? You don't have to send me this stuff. I just want the triggers and the slings, and very happy to have them. If you're going to send swag, make it Made in the US or I say- respectfully- you shouldn't bother.

The Blue Force Gear cap, well I put that into the emergency kit I keep in my truck. The Geissele cap is in a closet somewhere.

It's the principle of the thing.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
vthoky, can I send you back my klean kanteen, made in china and have you send me a American made one? . Seriously, I am proud to have it because you sent it. I will keep it forever. I will however do a little painting over at facebook as Para suggested. Even the President tweeted today to Buy American.

David, you hang on to that one, sir. And when I can find a good American-made one, I'll get us each one.