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Jack of All Trades, Master of Nothing |
There's couple of changes to the wording proposed. Go to the link, the highlights and edits show up there and not in the cut and paste below. This is even getting attention of those in the archery community for its possible implications to youth archery programs. http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bi...AxNgRwynMY9Q_W3_MvzQ 2020 SESSION history | pdf | print version 20101207D SENATE BILL NO. 64 Offered January 8, 2020 Prefiled November 21, 2019 A BILL to amend and reenact § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty. ---------- Patron-- Lucas ---------- Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice ---------- Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia: 1. That § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows: § 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty. A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he: 1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or 2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or 3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof. 2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice. My daughter can deflate your daughter's soccer ball. | |||
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This is dishonest reporting. The law appears in a section related to riots. The very next section of the law lists exceptions and addresses concerns stated herein. If we are going to bash fake news, we need to check out facts. Here is the next section. 18.2-433.3. Exceptions. Nothing contained in this article shall be construed to apply to: 1. Any act of a law-enforcement officer performed in the otherwise lawful performance of the officer's official duties; 2. Any activity, undertaken without knowledge of or intent to cause or further a civil disorder, which is intended to teach or practice self-defense or self-defense techniques such as karate clubs or self-defense clinics, and similar lawful activity; 3. Any facility, program or lawful activity related to firearms instruction and training intended to teach the safe handling and use of firearms; or 4. Any other lawful sports or activities related to the individual recreational use or possession of firearms, including but not limited to hunting activities, target shooting, self-defense and firearms collection. Notwithstanding any language contained herein, no activity of any individual, group, organization or other entity engaged in the lawful display or use of firearms or other weapons or facsimiles thereof shall be deemed to be in violation of this statute. 1987, c. 720. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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delicately calloused |
When totalitarians feel threatened. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Made from a different mold |
3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof. HayesGreener: How much do you want to bet that the commie fucks want to use that for anyone that attends LobbyDays and open carries? Don't tell me it's fake news. This shit is real and they will be using everything within their power to prosecute. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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It’s probably just my paranoia kicking in but I see this as open to abuse. Frankly, I’m surprised it hasn’t already been used. Much like red flag legislation, all it takes is an accusation. Then you’re faced with defending yourself or your group | |||
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If you don't like the law, change it. If you don't like the lawmakers, change them. But if you want to inflame passions, tell the whole story. Be honest about the entire statute not the cherry picked part The cited article is dishonest and you cannot deny that. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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Yep. While we are not "THE" problem, we are "THEIR" problem. Anything they can do to stack the deck will be done. | |||
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Made from a different mold |
There's a reason that line was added. Think about how many people attend each year. It's the biggest gathering of Virginia voters that support the 2nd Amendment. Each one in attendance that is carrying a weapon has the potential to lose their voting rights, their ability to own/possess/purchase firearms, and an additional financial burden, but yeah, it's just fake news . If you have a real way to make a change HayesGreener, I'd love to hear it. Changing laws/lawmakers is out of the question because of how saturated this state has become with fucktards from NY, NJ, MD, and D.C. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Member |
Too late. I'm already trained. I got my Judy Chop, Karate Chop, and Ninji Chop all ready to go. | |||
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Festina Lente |
Anything in the law directed at the great boogaloo? NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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Ammoholic |
What's a boogaloo? First time I've seen it mentioned was that nut job in attic standoff. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Don't worry about the boogaloo. It's a fake-out for the hootenany. But I didn't tell you that. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
It's not "What's A boogaloo", it's "What's THE boogaloo". _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Welcome to the rice fields, Skins. Oh. NWS. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Festina Lente |
It’s a thing to scare the lefties. https://www.adl.org/blog/the-b...r-a-coming-civil-war NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Yep. Just like the white power "ok" hand symbol was a thing to "scare the lefties." ADL says so about that also. It's an internet joke that they're now shitting their pants over because... they're lefties. Same with the "ok" hand symbol, same with Pepe the frog. https://www.adl.org/blog/how-t...lar-trolling-gesture https://www.adl.org/education/...ymbols/pepe-the-frog Their logic is circular on this stuff. They're scared of conservatives, so stuff conservatives do to joke on that fear automatically becomes hate because people kept joking about it after the left and groups like the ADL and SPLC said they were scared. Can't make fun of scared people, that's hateful. And racist. I have a hard time taking the ADL any more seriously than anyone else on the far left, honestly. If you're a gun owner and you buy into that shit, you're not helping any of us. They're going to label every new facet of our culture as "hateful" and if you let them have that as a weapon and not laugh at it, again, you're not helping any of us. Wink, laugh, flash the "ok" sign and tell them "feels good, man." ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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7.62mm Crusader |
Doubt its new residents moving in. Nope. Coukd well be folks in Virginia who have rights at stake just dont get off their asses and Vote. Dont go pointing fingers at anyone but folks from your State. | |||
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Non-Miscreant |
Well, Y'all voted the lefties in. Savor the loss. We even voted in a commie Govenor. The pendulum swings. Maybe with some luck, the 2020 election will swing back our way. But at least we can meet to oppose them. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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Coin Sniper |
I predict the civil war will begin in Virginia Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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I don't give a shit what law they pass, my wife and I will be at lobby day. What are we supposed to do, sit at home and hope, oh gee if I go they will take a picture of me and I'll lose all my rights. Bullshit!!! | |||
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