There is not a single non fleet model of f150 or tundra that does not gross 6k. So it’s simply not a factor in choosing re sec179. As much as I love Ford super duty (have 3) there is zero reason for the op to pick one for the stated use. And even if somehow that became a choice due to an extremely odd pricing situation there is no reason to pay extra for the 7.3.

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Originally posted by benny6:
Okay then. Looks like I can't go wrong with the F-150 or Tundra.

I'll most likely get a camper shell or tonneau cover. The last trip to the mountain dusted everything exposed in my friend's ranger bed.

Tony.

Check the payload rating on the 1/4 ton truck. Two people, cover, and a bunch of stuff in the back will get you close to its rating. A gas engine weighs less than a diesel so go with gas for max payload.

And don’t overlook the new GMC AT4’s.

I am not sure what is the point of your post Jimineer. I presume 1/4 ton trucks means Ranger and Tacoma? Payload numbers on today's trucks are silly. For the ranger its 1800lb. I doubt one could seriously get close to the rating unless you are packing gravel, sand or rocks. And Ford not being stupid has the GVW at 6K for S179. Didn't check the Tacoma but bet its substantially the same. If you mean you might be in trouble with your F150 or Tacoma same point for a F150 the number is 1800 and 3000lb depending on exact config. Simply not an issue unless the game is towing in which case you can fight the battle of GVWR. But not something the OP has in mind. Benny6 get a Tacoma or F150 depending on what is available and pricing in the configuration you want and you will be totally happy.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
I am not sure what is the point of your post Jimineer. I presume 1/4 ton trucks means Ranger and Tacoma? Payload numbers on today's trucks are silly. For the ranger its 1800lb. I doubt one could seriously get close to the rating unless you are packing gravel, sand or rocks. And Ford not being stupid has the GVW at 6K for S179. Didn't check the Tacoma but bet its substantially the same. If you mean you might be in trouble with your F150 or Tacoma same point for a F150 the number is 1800 and 3000lb depending on exact config. Simply not an issue unless the game is towing in which case you can fight the battle of GVWR. But not something the OP has in mind. Benny6 get a Tacoma or F150 depending on what is available and pricing in the configuration you want and you will be totally happy.

Not saying you are wrong but my FX4 had a payload rating of 1470. Color me surprised if the Ranger is 1800.
Put a solid tonneau or camper on, add a trailer’s tongue weight, passengers and gear and you can get there quickly. If you absolutely don’t plan to tow anything then it’s probably not an issue. All I’m saying is add your payload up and see.

Tundra.

If you're on a tight budget, the Grade model or SR model is a pretty good deal for no frills.
It's what I have, though in a 2010. 5.7L motor, 4x4, PW/DL, A/C, Cruise, column shift, bench seat, double cab, 6.5' box. The biggest down side is it's not, at least in the NW, available in that package with the CrewMax. Really not much else I want though I'll upgrade the stereo to one with Apple Car play because of my new phone.

It scoots when pressed, runs about 13mpg on the freeway and 15.x at 65mph. This with the larger E rated tires, 275/70R18 E up from the P265/65R18 factory tires. With the factory tires, I was getting 18mpg on the freeway from Idaho to San Diego. This when it was still 75mph most places. A factory sized 275/65R18 C or even E tire may help a touch.

It's the best vehicle I've owned and it will almost be assuredly replaced with another Tundra when it's time. It goes down the road smoothly, it's heavy enough and long enough the wind doesn't bother it too much and the jointed concrete roads are fine.

It's cost me very little. I had two things go wrong, one a water pump that started to drip at 90,xxx miles and the Air Induction Pumps. I changed the pump myself along with all the hoses, belt, thermostat and housing, plugs and fluid for about $400. The Air Induction Pumps were under warranty thankfully, that would have been an $1800 repair, dealer price. There is a bypass for that though and probably worth it because it's not really drive-able if it throws that code.

OEM pads and rotors aren't expensive and the truck stops like new again.

2018 F150 V8 is between 1830 and 3040. a 2020 ranger is 1560 and up depending on model to 1800. The 2021 F150 are a bit more. A current model F150 is over 3K no matter what model with the V8. No idea what year or configuration you have at under 1500, but it probably doesn't matter as its simply not available any more. And the OP is not towing. Not a chance of being in trouble on GVWR given everything that has been said.

Here’s my build for you:

2020 Ram 2500 Tradesman
4x4
Crew Cab 6’4” box
Power Wagon package

Stop right here and your MSRP is $49,540.

Add whatever goodies you want (e.g., extra alternators, Ram Box, etc) or don’t want.

But that truck as built so far comes with a 6.4 HEMI, 12,000 pound factory Warn winch, front and rear lockers, bilstein shocks, disconnecting sway bars for max articulation, factory lift, skid plates, etc., etc., etc.

Damn near unstoppable and with a factory warranty.

It’s the Jeep Rubicon of trucks.

The Ram 2500 Tradesman w/PW package or the Ram 2500 in the Power Wagon trim is the best off-roading truck you can buy except for the TRX....but those START at 70k.

Gas mileage will be less than a Tundra, yes, but not THAT MUCH less. Parking a 3/4 ton at the shopping mall, however, might suck.

i would think you would want that truck with an unfettered diesel and six speed manual tranny. Fixed it for you

In my lifetime, I've owned:
-1989 Ford Bronco
-1993 Dodge Ram 250 with V6 Hemi
-2007 Jeep Commander
-1985 Oldsmobile Cutlass
-2002 Mazda 626
-1989 Hyundai Excel
-2011 Nissan Altima

Since I've already owned the big three (Ford, GM, Chrysler), I'd like to round out the experience with a Toyota. The Taco falls short of GVWR, so the Tundra it is, unless I just can't afford it when my Jeep dies, then I'll pick the runner-up F-150.

Thanks for all the info!

Tony.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
2018 F150 V8 is between 1830 and 3040. a 2020 ranger is 1560 and up depending on model to 1800. The 2021 F150 are a bit more. A current model F150 is over 3K no matter what model with the V8. No idea what year or configuration you have at under 1500, but it probably doesn't matter as its simply not available any more. And the OP is not towing. Not a chance of being in trouble on GVWR given everything that has been said.

hrcjon: FX4, 4x4, Supercrew with 3.5L Ecoboost is what I had. Model and engine does matter according to Ford.
Sorry, I assumed FX4 since OP said 4x4 and I assumed SuperCrew because he didn’t say.
Regardless, sorry i misled.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
i would think you would want that truck with an unfettered diesel and six speed manual tranny. Fixed it for you

I hear you. But there’s a few reasons why they do not put the diesel on the PW. Looking up my reference on the subject:

According to Ram: 1) weight (it’s already heavy and they are trying to limit weight as the PW suspension is tuned for off road vs. towing), 2) room in the front bumper package with the winch vs position of diesel intercooler and 3) it would limit the axle articulation due to inline six diesel configuration.

Here’s the source...

https://youtu.be/DGdLbQlMZnQ

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
A current model F150 is over 3K no matter what model with the V8.

Only certain models with the correct package do.

The only 4x4 V8 that does is the regular cab long bed. In 4x2 V8s: the regular cab long bed and super cab long bed. The 4x2 V8 super crew with 6.5' bed comes close at 2,900lbs. All of these have to have the payload package with 18" wheels. Without that package, 2021 V8 F150s have a payload of 1,900lbs to 2,350lbs which is still fine with putting a cap on the bed and leaving plenty of payload for everything else.

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