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| quote: Originally posted by Rev. A. J. Forsyth: Dude is obese, a heavy smoker, and probably suffers from diseases associated with such activities. I would bet cash money that he has gout and has diabetes, or is pre-diabetic. Even if he is okay now and these stories are incorrect, he wont be around too long....
Good points. Even if surgery did overcome the immediate health mishap, good chance the underlying cause is still working, only a matter of time.
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| If he does die, likely the Dr's and staff will be executed. Motivation to keep him alive I'm sure. Success = Hero of the state Failure = Date with a 40mm
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| Googled the sister, from the article or two I read, she doesn't have enough power to take over and it would be likely a board of party leaders. So nothing would change there. Maybe the people would realize that if a simple medical procedure takes out their god-like leader that he may not me as divine as they think and they might revolt. A free North Korea would be a nice thing, reunification would be nice under a free government would be even better, maybe it'd cut the cost of a Samsung TV.
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| quote: Originally posted by Rightwire: If he does die, likely the Dr's and staff will be executed. Motivation to keep him alive I'm sure.
Success = Hero of the state Failure = Date with a 40mm
Seems to me the doctors there probably don't have top level training and skills for the particular health issues. Imagine what it would feel like to be a doctor in that situation.
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| I hear Dennis Rodman is on a plane to Pyongyang. 
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| It’s extremely likely that there are plenty of members of the top North Korean leadership who would be happy for drastic changes in the society if Kim dies. What sane person wants to live under the constant threat of summary murder, or worse, at the whim of a despot with nearly absolute powers? Yes, Kim is still in power because he has his supporters, especially in the military, but there are doubtless others who would be willing to risk efforts to depose them once Kim is gone. And of course, many Western powers would fall all over themselves to show support for any liberalization of things there. I could easily see something happening there as did in the Soviet Union after Stalin’s death when Khrushchev started the process of reform. It wouldn’t be an overnight collapse as what happened at the end of the USSR, and China would have a major influence, but we might be surprised.
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| No reason to get our bowels in a uproar. Its CNN. Those bastards are even less known for accurate reporting than official NK news releases. As for the succession, remember China has a direct stake in any power play on its border. Fat boy (sorry, Para) is really just one of their puppets. What keeps him alive is being worth more alive to China than him being dead. They don't like uncertainty, particularly on the border. They've got enough to worry about, unless its their doing to distract the rest of the world. Guess I should apologize for commenting on the bastards physical shape. There are a few people around who I don't feel bound by the ban on their physical shape. Very few, like Fat Boy, Hillary and other evil pricks. We should make a list of those exempt civil discourse. I assume "Slow Joe" doesn't count because he doesn't really know if he wound his watch or walked to work. Gawd help us all.
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| CNN, who first reported this, are now hedging their bets, saying news from NK is unreliable.
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| quote: Originally posted by 220-9er: CNN, who first reported this, are now hedging their bets, saying news from NK is unreliable.
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| The linked article is filled with "unnamed sources", "suppositions", and "according to" rather than quotes. Typical cnn half baked composition.
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| quote: Originally posted by sigfreund: It’s extremely likely that there are plenty of members of the top North Korean leadership who would be happy for drastic changes in the society if Kim dies. What sane person wants to live under the constant threat of summary murder, or worse, at the whim of a despot with nearly absolute powers? Yes, Kim is still in power because he has his supporters, especially in the military, but there are doubtless others who would be willing to risk efforts to depose them once Kim is gone. And of course, many Western powers would fall all over themselves to show support for any liberalization of things there.
I could easily see something happening there as did in the Soviet Union after Stalin’s death when Khrushchev started the process of reform. It wouldn’t be an overnight collapse as what happened at the end of the USSR, and China would have a major influence, but we might be surprised.
Whatever changes occur, is likely a re-arranging of the deck chairs on the Titanic-level of change. They've all lived in a world of predatory practices and strongman rules. No different than being a member of the mob: the guys at the top are sociopaths who live in a world of excess while making moves to reinforce their power-base, the lieutenants are cynical as they've seen behind the curtain but, also recognize that opportunism is the key to success. The foot-soldiers hold their leaders to a near religious-level of reverence and will do anything to make a positive impression so they can get a seat at the table and get some scraps. The citizens, are either fully indoctrinated and do as they're told, hoping to get a special previlages or, they've been cast-out, left to fend for themselves on the black market, modern day serfs as they have little choice in their lives. Whomever takes over, has to be the wiliest of the bunch, able to curry favor while suppressing any attempts of change. For the NORK leadership to throw-off what they've been doing the last 70-years, would invite a massacre by the people and their own minions. Like post-Stalin and post-Mao, the change will be incremental so the guys up high who survive, can preserve their own status as an elite. |
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| We should put a cruise missile or two into the appropriate hospital, just to make sure. We could say they were surveillance drones that went rogue. Apologize insincerely, and then have tea and cookies in the rose garden.
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| quote: Originally posted by GWbiker: quote: Big news if true. Who steps up to the plate??
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What kind of cookies, pray tell? 
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Apologize insincerely, and then have tea and cookies in the rose garden.
What kind of cookies, pray tell?
Well obviously, 'bad fortune' cookies..... |
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