Just to show how insane this is in the modern world of the internet and quick google searches. Someone posted the information of the ORIGINAL owner (from Michigan) of that vehicle as the driver or his father depending on the post. It was sold to a dealership 5 years ago. It is unknown how his name is still attached to the vehicle.

He has been receiving a constant stream of threats. Michigan State Police advised him to change all phone numbers and if his house suffers vandalism consider moving.

In related news it appears a White Nationalist group the "Right Wings" have copied the logo, with a slight modification, of the Detroit Red Wings (NHL Team). The team released a statement that it is pursuing aggressive legal action against the group for unauthorized use of the logo.

https://www.clickondetroit.com...harlottesville-rally

Check Twitter. Info and videos from today have been posted. On twitter, via periscope, Faith J. Goldy, has posted a video of clips that were taken at different times/ locations, even caught the car running into the crowd.

Her video shows a lot of BLM and antifa shits causing problems, so it wasn't all white supremacists, as the lieing media would have you believe. Of course, there is NO condemnation of them (except from Trump)- another free pass.

Seeing the Naval Jack always disgraced by these scumbags upsets me. They can have the swastika & worship Hitler, I know they stand for nothing I want to be part of.

I just want American history to be left alone. Good and bad, it is what we have & cannot be changed.

Another video of the impact/assault. Faith Goldy with Rebel Media was right next to where the car hit.

The article the video is from.
Rebel Media - Driver Mows Down Antifa, BLM at Unite The Right Charlottesville

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Originally posted by 10-7 leo:
Check Twitter. Info and videos from today have been posted. On twitter, via periscope, Faith J. Goldy, has posted a video of clips that were taken at different times/ locations, even caught the car running into the crowd.

Her video shows a lot of BLM and antifa shits causing problems, so it wasn't all white supremacists, as the lieing media would have you believe. Of course, there is NO condemnation of them (except from Trump)- another free pass.

A link to Faith Goldy's Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/FaithGoldy

In my opinion if you are down there to protest on either side you are probably an asshole. Bunch of fucking drama queens wanting attention or to "be part of the action." Protestors nowadays can go eat a bag of dicks. Most of these shitbags do it just so they have something to post on social media to give their worthless lives some degree of relevance or interest.

I bet this is exactly what this officer wants to be doing today.

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
In my opinion if you are down there to protest on either side you are probably an asshole. Bunch of fucking drama queens wanting attention or to "be part of the action." Protestors nowadays can go eat a bag of dicks. Most of these shitbags do it just so they have something to post on social media to give their worthless lives some degree of relevance or interest.

I bet this is exactly what this officer wants to be doing today.

Amen.

Being Jewish, I especially like the sign in the background "Jews are the Children of Satan"

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Originally posted by drtenb330:
Being Jewish, I especially like the sign in the background "Jews are the Children of Satan"

Over the years, I have found that anti-semitism is a good marker for deep psychological problems.

I sometimes wonder which comes first. Perhaps being crazy makes people anti-semitic. But I suspect being anti-semitic makes people crazy. Gen 12:3 comes to mind.

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Originally posted by Fenris:

I sometimes wonder which comes first. Perhaps being crazy makes people anti-semitic. But I suspect being anti-semitic makes people crazy. Gen 12:3 comes to mind.

Probably happens simultaneously.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
Per Foxnews.com, it is now three (3) dead. One pedestrian and two (2) Virginia State Troopers killed when their helicopter crashed.

OK, I'm puzzled. Why would you do this? Why would you try to add the deaths of a helicopter crash to this incident?

You know, that kind of bullshit is something I'd expect from someone on the left who is trying to make this incident appear worse than it is. Just what do you think you're doing?

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
There's no need to disavow any ties to these groups or apologize for them because I neither associate with them nor do I approve what they do or say and you don't either; the media/left/democrats are doing the same thing they always do, accuse the right of the exact things they're guilty of - classic projection. These so-called white nationalists/kkk have tried to legitimize themselves by calling themselves Republicans/Conservatives but it hasn't worked in the past and won't work in the future; people always want to be on the winning team and right now Republicans are the winning team. WN/kkk and blm are different bad apples in the same leftist basket.

As a reminder, the party of Lincoln wasn't the one that overtly supported the kkk and publicly used it as a militant arm.

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
We, the right leaning amongst us, need to recognize this is a population that exists, for whatever reasons feels recently emboldened, and we are being painted as associating with them. The easiest way to stop that is to label them for what they are and eliminate any possible affiliation that could be reasonably or unreasonably inferred. And, again I'm not trying to be a dick, but denying they are there isn't the first step to accomplishing that

I agree. None of these groups represent me. I don't send them money. And whatnot. I have no need to "disavow" them, because the people that care won't believe me anyways. I am guilty by association of race or whatever. These Illinois nazis have the right to protest all they want as long as they FOLLOW THE LAW. Just the same that the BLM idiots do. Man, they can protest themselves plum out that like letting a baby cry themselves to sleep. Completely good with it. They break the law? They go to jail. By the hundred if that is what it takes. Both sides. Get violent? You don't combat violence by talking to it. You do what it takes to stop the violence and lock them up. Quick, fast and in a hurry.

I have no need, or even desire to insert myself into this and "disavow" this or that. There are lots of guys that run around with Viking hats on their head, I don't need to recognize or disavow them either. The people that want to lump me into the nazis, skinheads, blah, blah, blah are going to do so as it matters not what I say to them. Their mind is already made up.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
Per Foxnews.com, it is now three (3) dead. One pedestrian and two (2) Virginia State Troopers killed when their helicopter crashed.

OK, I'm puzzled. Why would you do this? Why would you try to add the deaths of a helicopter crash to this incident?

You know, that kind of bullshit is something I'd expect from someone on the left who is trying to make this incident appear worse than it is. Just what do you think you're doing?

If someone isn't paying attention to various news sources and only getting snippets of what is happening from the slanted media, you hear: violent protestors, white supremacists, deaths- two are police. They infer white supremacists are rioting and killing people, including cops.

The conclusion the leftists, and their propaganda peddlers, want the public to think is the white supremacists need to be stopped, at all costs, for there to be peace. They are the only trouble makers.

As jljones said, the violence on both sides needs to be dealt with. Equal opportunity prosecution.

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Where did this violence start?

Typically the white supremacists just stand around looking stupid at their events.
The Antifa crowd likes to break windows start fires and punch those opposed to their views (Berkley).

Did both parties apply for permits to march?

Seems to me in honesty we had three separate events.

1. Violence and fighting between two groups.
2. A lone wolf using his car as a weapon to run over people.
3. A helicopter crash.

To solve the problems we need to address the cause of each issue.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
Per Foxnews.com, it is now three (3) dead. One pedestrian and two (2) Virginia State Troopers killed when their helicopter crashed.

OK, I'm puzzled. Why would you do this? Why would you try to add the deaths of a helicopter crash to this incident?

You know, that kind of bullshit is something I'd expect from someone on the left who is trying to make this incident appear worse than it is. Just what do you think you're doing?

I was relating the Foxnews.com headline at the time.

It is still a subheadline on Foxnews.com: Charlottesville white nationalist rally blamed for 3 deaths, dozens of injuries.

The left is adamant about calling the car attack an act of terrorism. To me, terrorism is aimed against innocent victims not expecting to be attacked. Protestors spoiling for a fight got what they came for. I'm not defending the attacker, but calling it terrorism is about politics, not justice.

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Kevbo
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No offense, you're wrong. They are a significant portion of the rally (at least what I would consider significant, which is, at least from what I've been told, "hundreds") i know people that were around last night, have relatives and friends still in the area, and have a good buddy who is spending his weekend with the reserves down there because of the "state of emergency".


A lot of them appear to be from out of town (the group from Michigan, the guy in the car from Ohio). But they are there.

We, the right leaning amongst us, need to recognize this is a population that exists, for whatever reasons feels recently emboldened, and we are being painted as associating with them. The easiest way to stop that is to label them for what they are and eliminate any possible affiliation that could be reasonably or unreasonably inferred. And, again I'm not trying to be a dick, but denying they are there isn't the first step to accomplishing that

No offense taken. I know that some KKK and Nazis were there, but I also know that if there were only 2, the MSM would photograph them exclusively and portray everyone there as a racist and bigot-- as they have done. My guess-- and I could be wrong-- is that most of the men there were not KKK, not Nazis or WN, but fed up and angry with all the humiliation and violence that has been heaped on white men in recent years, especially from BLM.

I don't think that KKK is a growing organization. Whenever they have rallies, about 12 of them show up, 6 of whom are undercover FBI. But I think that a major white backlash is brewing, and not only in the South. That was the real point I wanted to make: This is not about the KKK, although the media will play it that way.

I can't fathom it. Why are these two officers' deaths being directly linked to the incidents in Virginia?

Well, of course I know. Sensationalism.

Wonder is the dumb shits holding the Swastika realize if they were in Hitler's Germany, 3/4's of them would be put to death.