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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

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Originally posted by bozman:
I wonder if that BDA report was a setup to find leakers...

exactly - it came up with a definitive answer pretty quickly and there has been no other information since then

and the three sources according to CNN was just three different people with exactly the same report

I think it was a smokescreen to root a few people out

It would be hilarious if they deliberately planted information at DIA.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I think it was a smokescreen to root a few people out

The term is a "Canary Trap."

"ideological poison" I think Mr. Shapiro has it right.

https://x.com/AGHamilton29/status/1937856151523074459

Looks like they are not going to let this go unpunished. I hope they are serious. I am thinking they are...

NYT/CNN Leaker Investigation

^^^^ At their NATO international press conference, Trump and Hegseth tear into Kelly O'Donnell from NBC/MSNBC and fake news on her question about the leak.

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/.../1937885606685606286

Sounds like we think it's obliterated. Lol. I love it. And the eejits on socials calling Prez DJT a "war monger" are outing themselves as biased and dumb. This is almost more telling of people's hearts and minds than the run up to the elections are.

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Originally posted by bozman:
Looks like they are not going to let this go unpunished. I hope they are serious. I am thinking they are...

NYT/CNN Leaker Investigation

Polygraph every person who had access to that report.

LOL at the media thinking DIA is the primary element determining BDA for a strike such as this.

The President said it best- the media are scum.

Hegseth has a presser at 8am tomorrow.

The presser this morning with Hegseth and General Caine was outstanding. Very detailed and shot the hell out of the bullshit press narrative.
Of course, there were several leading questions from press scum that were met with great responses.
One scumbag even asked the general if he had been pressured by political leadership to make his briefing more rosy and if he were would he do it. Had me cussing at the TV.

Inside Info of the Aftermath.

https://www.newsmax.com/politi...dkt_nbr=01050270a0x0

Sec. Hegseth: Media 'Breathlessly' Used Early Report to Undermine Trump

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, during a Thursday morning news conference with Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Dan Caine, scolded members of the media for focusing on an early assessment indicating that strikes on three Iranian nuclear sites may not have been as devastating as President Donald Trump and the administration had reported.

The report, Hegseth said, had not been coordinated with other agencies in the intelligence community and pointed out that other assessments showed a different picture of the damages to the sites hit in last weekend's "Operation Midnight Hammer."

But, he said, the media has "breathlessly" reported about the assessment in its zeal to undermine Trump.

"President Trump directed the most complex and secretive military operation in history, and it was a resounding success, resulting in a ceasefire agreement and the end of the 12-day war," Hegseth said. "Because of decisive military action, President Trump created the conditions to end the war, decimating, choose your word, obliterating, destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities."

"It's preliminary," he said. "It points out that it's not been coordinated with the intelligence community at all. There's low confidence in this particular report."

And, as the report itself, said there are gaps in its information, which meant the media's reports were "predicated on a linchpin assumption," Hegseth said.

"If you're wrong, everything else is wrong, and still, this report acknowledges it's likely severe damage," he said.

But the report, Hegseth said, was "leaked because someone had an agenda to try to muddy the waters and make it look like this historic strike wasn't successful," said Hegseth. "The DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency] that put that report out says this is a preliminary low-confidence report and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes available."

He questioned why other quotes didn't make their way into coverage from The New York Times, Washington Post, or other outlets.

"How about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission: 'The devastating U.S. strikes on Fordo destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable?'" said Hegseth. "How about this one? This is a new one from the U.N., the United Nations, no friend of the United States, or certainly Israel."

Further, he said, "Here's the head of the U.N. Atomic Energy Agency this morning, Rafael Grossi: 'U.S. and Israeli strikes caused enormous damage to Iran's nuclear sites.' Don't take my word for it. How about the IDF's chief of staff? 'I can say here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the nuclear program, setting it back by years.'"

Hegseth added that CIA Director John Ratcliff has also reported that the agency can confirm that a "'body of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged by recent targeted strikes.'"

Further, he said, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said on Wednesday that "'new intelligence confirms what POTUS has stated numerous times. Iran's nuclear facilities have been destroyed.'"

"Time and time again, I can go down the list," said Hegseth.

But, Hegseth said, the press corps wants to "cheer against Trump so hard," including "against the efficacy of these strikes."

"So let's take half truths, spun information, leaked information, and then spin it," he argued. "Spin it in every way we can to try to cause doubt and manipulate the mind, the public mind, over whether or not our brave pilots were successful."

He further asked why there were no stories done to outline "what our brave men and women did."

Hegseth also noted that Trump, who is at the NATO summit, accomplished a "game-changing" and historic shift in burden sharing to Europe, adding that 32 NATO countries have committed to spending 5% of their GDP on defense.

"We're here this morning because in hunting for scandals all the time in trying to find wedges and spin stories, this press corps and the press corps miss historic moments," he said.

“Howard Zinn blame America trash.”
From the Ben Shapiro podcast posted by para.

Perfect.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...Zj3CFu7183b5lAXRo%3D

Pentagon Details How Bunker-Buster Bombs Hit Iran’s Fordow Nuclear Site

Fordow, which is underground a mountain range, was one of the three nuclear sites bombed by the United States on June 21.

The Pentagon has revealed details on how it bombed Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, in a June 26 press conference.

Fordow, which is housed under a mountain, was one of the three nuclear sites bombed by the United States on June 21.

“If you want to know what’s going on at Fordow, you better go there and get a big shovel because no one’s under there right now,” said Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth at the briefing.

U.S. B-2 bombers dropped six massive ordinance penetrators (MOPs) on Fordow. The first uncovered the main shaft, while the next four entered the main shaft, moved down into the facility, and let off explosions. The sixth MOP was a flex bomb, in case one of the bombs did not do its job.

“The weapons were released on speed and on parameters,” said Joint Chiefs Chairman Dan Caine. “The weapons all guided to their intended targets and to their intended aim points.”

The bombs, he said, ripped through Fordow’s open tunnels and destroyed critical hardware.

“The majority of the damage we assessed, based on our extensive modeling, was a blast layer combined with the impulse extending from the shock,” said Caine.

Caine did not say what the damage was, as damage assessments are done not by the Pentagon but rather by the intelligence community.

CNN first reported on June 24 that the strikes on Iran did not destroy the country’s nuclear program “and likely only set it back by months,” citing an assessment from anonymous sources of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) whose conclusion was one of low confidence.
The report also said that “Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed” and that “the intelligence assessed enriched uranium was moved out of the sites, prior to the U.S. strikes.”

During the press conference, Hegseth emphasized that the report was “preliminary.” He cited numerous primary sources, such as U.S. and Israeli intelligence, stating that the strikes destroyed Iran’s nuclear sites at Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan.

President Donald Trump has criticized the DIA report.

“Great statements just came out from the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission and from Iran, as you know, that it was complete, total destruction,” Trump said on June 25.

“And, CNN turned out to be fake news. As always. I swear they have no credibility. That’s why they have no viewers. But we’re going to read it to you if you haven’t seen it.”

CNN has stood by its reporting.

“We stand 100 percent behind Natasha Bertrand’s journalism and specifically her and her colleagues’ reporting of the early intelligence assessment of the U.S. attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. CNN’s reporting made clear that this was an initial finding that could change with additional intelligence. We have extensively covered President Trump’s own deep skepticism about it,” the network said in a statement.
“However, we do not believe it is reasonable to criticize CNN reporters for accurately reporting the existence of the assessment and accurately characterizing its findings, which are in the public interest.”

I can barely get my head around the fact a guy at DTRA sat at a desk for 15 years monitoring, assessing and problem solving the elimination of the Iran nuke program.

15 years, he monitored every inch of infrastructure, every piece of equipment, and helped deliver a weapons system never made before.

15 years of analysis, reports, planning, re-planning, until finally he gets to see his work culminate so beautifully.

VDH

In the End, Everyone Hated the Iranian Theocracy

It is hard even to digest the incredible train of events of the last few days in the Middle East.

Iran had been reduced to an anemic, performance-art missile attack on our base in Qatar—the last Parthian shot from a terrified regime, desperate for an out—and a ceasefire.

Iran would have been better off not launching such a ceremonial but ultimately humiliating proof of impotence.

Even worse for the theocracy, Iran’s temporary reprieve came from the now magnanimous but still hated Donald Trump.

So ends the creepy mystique of the supposedly indomitable terror state of Iran, the bane of the last seven American presidents over half a century.

For Supreme Leader Khamenei, it was hard to swallow that U.S. bombers got their permission to fly into Iranian airspace from the Israeli air force.

A good simile is that Trump put a pot of water on the stove, told Iran to jump in, put the lid over them, then smiled, turned up the heat—and will now let them stew.

As postbellum realities now simmer in Iran, the theocracy is left explaining the inexplicable to its humiliated military and shocked but soon-to-be-furious populace. All the regime’s blood-curdling rhetoric, apocalyptic threats against Israel, goose-stepping thugs, and shiny new missiles ended in less than nothing.

A trillion dollars and five decades’ worth of missiles and centrifuges are now up in smoke. That money might have otherwise saved Iranians from the impoverishment of the last fifty years.

How about the little Satan Israel, to which Iran for nearly 50 years promised extinction?

Israel had destroyed Iran’s expeditionary terrorists, Iran’s defenses, its nuclear viability, and the absurd mythology of Iranian military competence. And worse, Israel showed it could repeat all that destruction when and if it is necessary.

So, the most hated regime in the world crawled into the boiling pot because it looked around in vain for someone to void Trump’s ultimatum for a cease and desist.

But there were no last-minute saviors to rescue them.

The dreaded decades-long Iranian nuclear threat?

It is either gone for now, or if it resurfaces, it will be again far easier to vaporize at will than to rebuild a lost trillion-dollar investment.

Russia? Its former Obama-Kerry re-invitation back into the Middle East lasted only a decade.

It will now cut its losses like it did with the vanished Assad kleptocracy in Syria. Putin exits the Middle East not entirely displeased that his lunatic Iranian client did not get a bomb—but did get its just desserts. A tense Middle East tends to prop up Russian export oil prices.

Did China come to the mullahs’ aid?

No, they were not shy about ordering their Iranian lackey to keep the Strait of Hormuz open, through which 50 percent of Chinese-purchased oil passes.

For President Xi, the Iranians are treated as little more than Uyghurs with oil.

The world decided that it was tired of a half-century of crybully terrorism, empty nuke threats, mindless mobs screaming scripted banalities, cowardly murdering, and medieval theocrats threatening the general peace.

So, the world turned its back on Iran. And with a wink and nod, it let Israel and the U.S. do what they must.

As for Iran’s terrorist appendages, Hezbollah’s commanders are either dead, maimed, or in hiding.

Hamas has fled into a subterranean labyrinth.

The last Assad thug fled to Russia.

The crazy Houthis? They are reconsidering the idea of launching their last missile at the cost of their last port or power grid.

The anti-Trump Democrats and loony left?

Their talk of impeaching Trump for the supposedly “illegal” 35-minute, one-off strike will fade.

The Trump mission equaled less than one day of Obama’s predator drone strikes, targeted killings, or his five-year chaotic bombing in Libya.

Is the incoherent left furious that there is no more Iranian nuclear threat?

Mad that no Americans were killed last Saturday night?

Furious America likely killed few if any Iranians.

Or is it raging because Trump ignored Iran’s last-gasp attack and instead orchestrated a cease-fire?

Of course, in the Middle East, there is never a real end to anything.

We may see freelancing terrorists try to fill the vacuum of Iran’s decline. Or Iran itself may try to let loose a terrorist cell. It may later boast it has hidden away some enriched uranium.

But no matter.

The dimensions of this new Middle East will persist.

The new reality is that either Israel or the U.S.—if they keep their earned confidence within proper limits—can now ensure a non-nuclear Iran by easily blowing up its costly nuclear program as often as it is rebuilt.