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Two different points, for two different kinds of climbers. With regards to alcohol/drug usage, that was more pointed to with Osman, whom I knew; Skinner and Potter I know of through other friends principally Jim Hewitt who was with Skinner when he died. Guys like them are a lot different than guys like Honnold, which is where my comparison was going. They're more apt to take greater risks than somebody like Honnold; a night of hard drinking, partying, putting crazy ideas into action, those guys were characters, much more out-going, extroverts. Their personalities led them to take risks which pioneered the sport in different directions, sometimes paying with their lives. I'm not saying all of their deaths are a result of careless and reckless behavior, however that factor is more in-play with their personality type than a Honnold or, Lowe, who were calculated, and more introverted, ergo more cautious and conservative in their actions. I've been in meetings with Honnold, nice guy but, good grief he's boring. Climbing is an inherently dangerous sport, no two ways about it. Big wall climbs require a lot of nerve along with a lot of grit, perseverance and muscle to yank all that gear up while setting the anchors...its why it's referred to as blue collar climbing. Free solo, yeah ..pass. | |||
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I can't wait to see this documentary. Meru was great! “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Same here, Meru was good. I think Free Solo will blow it away. Jimmy shots some amazing shots and his wife can tell the story. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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Definitely looking forward to watching this.
Very cool. I didn't start climbing until '92. I've pretty much peaked at leading 5.8-5.10, and toprope-ing a few 5.11s. My life and climbing partners combo never worked out to much in the way of super tall multi-pitch routes and for that I have subtle regrets as I'd always wanted to. Oh well, I've done tons of single pitch Sport and Bouldering and love/loved every minute of it. El Cap was a dream of mine for a long time, but the closest I'll probably ever get now is some of the super tall routes at El Potrero Chico in Mexico because they have very tall 8s and 9s. | |||
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Broken Arrow Tyrolean Traverse (in the Valley) was a dream of mine. A buddy and I agreed we were going to do it together. He ended up getting to it first. I never managed to do it, despite spending a total of about 5 weeks in the Valley over the course of a few summers. I never forgave him for it. (Well, I did, but still....) (Not my pic: )  Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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has anyone seen Free Solo yet? limited release, so it's a lotto i guess. | |||
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I’ve seen it. It’s very well done. Some insane shots of Alex on Free Rider. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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starts here Friday. I'll go see it. | |||
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Death awaits this super stud. He's as subject to the laws of physics as we mere mortals. He'll find that out one day and it won't be too long before he does, 'cause he's gotta top ths stunt now, doesn't he? Ridiculous. Can he fly? Then, he's a dead man walkin', and when he splatters hmself all over some ravine, I'll say 'I told you so'. | |||
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Death awaits us all. I believe Hemingway put it best in "A Farewell to Arms": "If people bring so much courage to this world, the world has to kill them to break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." Of course, as I type this I am still not completely healed from my mountain bike accident of July 1.......and may never be.....so what do I know, you're probably right. | |||
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Thanks for ignoring the meaning of my comment (which you damn well know), in order to point out the fucking obvious to me. You don't need to quote Hemingway to point out the most basic thing about the human condition. Let me put it to you this way- today is not the day to try to be cute with me, Mr. Ima Fish. | |||
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Don't know, he's got a girlfriend now. Maybe she'll change his interests. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I'm with Para on this one. This guy spoke at our Sales Kick-off back in August and all I could think of was "so what"? There was absolutely zero reason he should have done it. You want to impress me, Invent something. Don't just "climb a rock". Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Not sure of the seriousness of your mountain bike injuries, but if the end result was a permanent limp, or brain damage, or constant pain for your remaining days, would you feel that your injury was worth the thrill of the "putting it all on the line"? | |||
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You can never justify dying or being permanently injured for a sport, but, you never think you are going to die or be injured. Gearing up to do a 3 hour cave dive located an hour drive in the jungle in Mexico with literally no emergency services there to help, you either trust yourself and your buddies 100% or you dont go. I believe the risks I take are manageable and I dont feel anything I do is even close to "the line", but there is no way to justify it. Funny, after reading this thread I went home last night and watched "Meru". Great movie, and I found a lot of similarities in the "mind set" between mountain climbing and cave diving. Especially the mentoring aspect and extending limits. | |||
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You view suggests my collection of injuries from riding motorcycles would lead you to believe that I got a rush from riding them. Not hardly. I rode a motorcycle because it was cheap transportation and back then I was poor. I had to ride no matter the weather (save for snow). Sadly it was on that motorcycle where my two accidents happened. I suffer from the injuries from then to this day. Was it worth riding a motorcycle? Well yeah, if I wanted to go somewhere that was my choice because it was my sole means of transportation. Sometimes "dangerous" behavior is driven by the rush, other times it's driven by other factors like economics. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I saw Free Solo yesterday. A lot of the movie focuses on Alex's relationship w/ his first serious long-term girlfriend and how it affects his climbing goals. The doc is easily digestible. It's laid out like typical sports movie. You get introduced to the humble, unassuming protagonist. You get a close-up view of his sport and lifestyle. You meet his friends. You meet his GF. You meet his family. You get a montage of the protagonist training and preparing for 'the big game'. The protagonist experiences some setbacks. He gets in a fight w/ his GF. He suffers some injuries. His confidence gets rattled. The doc climaxes w/ 'the big game'. The protagonist pulls himself together, and you know the rest. The film is targeted towards mainstream audiences that know little-to-nothing about climbing and succeeds at drawing in the layperson. As you would expect, there are many vertigo-inducing shots of Alex in action. If you're a serious climber, you might be disappointed that they don't show more footage of Alex's feat, but the movie does go into the complications of where and when to film Alex's climb. I will be surprised if it doesn't get an Academy Award nomination. It has a good shot at winning 'Best Doc', unless there are competing docs pushing some SJW agenda that Hollywood will fawn over. | |||
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Hemingway also said that there are only 3 true sports: Bull fighting Auto racing Mountain climbing His reasoning was that if you think you're better than you actually are, you're a dead man. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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