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semi-reformed sailor |
I’m watching Bosch series (season 5: ep 3) and in one episode there is a V tailed plane with pods in the ends of the wings. What are those? Fuel, aerodynamics? Inquiring minds want to know. “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | ||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm.  |
Probably wingtip-mounted fuel tanks. Also seen on early jet fighters. "The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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gas tanks on mine; 20 gallons each side  | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
Are those its only fuel tanks, or auxiliaries? That fuel tank placement on a fighter never made sense to me. All that fuel out on the ends of the wings couldn't help its roll rate, something I would think would be kind of important in a dogfight. "The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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Each tip is 20 gallons auxiliary, left and right main tanks are each 40 gallons so it can carry 120 gallons total if I fill it up, enough for 9 hours of endurance with a 1 hour reserve. Surprisingly, the roll rate is about the same with the tips full or empty, but this ain't a fighter and full aileron input is rare. | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
Thanks guys! I knew you would know. Yeah the plane in the show is a black v tail with the pods. I guess extra fuel would help on a longer trip. Is 40 gals a lot of avgas? How far would it stretch a flight, or is it like a reserve tank? “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | |||
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Spiritually Imperfect |
Using aileron’s numbers, the tip tanks add another 3-4 hours endurance (@13 gph fuel burn, which is 120 gallons / 9 hours). They also consume 240 lbs of useful load, so there is that trade off. His bladder will dictate the length of the flight, however.  | |||
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The D'shannon tip tank STC adds 200# to the gross weight, mine is now 3,600# max. Plane is 2,174 empty weight so the useful load is a huge 1,426#. With full fuel I can still load 700+# of people and stuff. We're usually only 2 people plus the dog and a couple of suitcases. We have relief tubes plumbed to the two front seats, and with the new digital AP with VNAV my workload has decreased quite a bit. | |||
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| Spiritually Imperfect |
That is an impressive setup, aileron. | |||
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Doesn’t get any better for GA! And the Beech is a much better plane to hand fly than any other traveling piston. Aileron- that useful load is amazing big for a 35. Is your CG far enough forward that you can use it? My useful load on a 36 is only 1357, but in the summer heat she’s a dog coming off the runway! | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
On fighter aircraft, wing tip tanks can generally be dropped if combat is imminent. In a mission, wing tip fuel was used first, so the dropped tanks would likely be empty. Serious about crackers. | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
My v-tail burned 15.5 gallons / hour at a cruise setting of 75% engine power, so 40 gallons would add just over 2.5 hours of cruising time, which would be an additional 500 miles in a no-wind situation. Headwind or tailwind would decrease or increase that range. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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I've flown as a passenger in an IO550 powered S35. Especially with the weight of your bird, you're going to have an amazing plane when you're done. Very nice panel too. I see your ipad to the right- I mounted a garmin portable to the right of a 750 because I can't trust an ipad in the TX heat. Great Setup! I'm turbonormalized, so I have an extra 70 lbs (or something like that?) added to the engine compartment. I have never had a problem with aft cg- I generally need to add some weight in the baggage compartment to keep the plane inside the CG envelope, especially with 2 up front and no one in the back. I also agree with weighing the plane- we did the same thing after an avionics install. The TN system makes the plane a dog climbing out in the heat. I'll only see 7-900 FPM climb off the runway when I'm heavy, but when she gets going I see 180 kts true at 10k ft burning 15.5 GPH (2300 RPM). 195 KTAS at 17k on the same fuel burn. It's an amazing system. | |||
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| Master of one hand pistol shooting  |
Somewhere in my stuff I have a pilot relief tube obtained from aircraft boneyard in the late 50s SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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| Ammoholic |
The Bonanza family aren’t fighters, and most of them aren’t aerobatic, but they sure roll nice and smooth. Plenty of control authority and beautiful harmony. | |||
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