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I was diagnosed in late 2015 , age 60. Had 1 positive out of 12 after the biopsy. Don’t remember the Gleason score but it was low. Investigated external beam radiation and surgery. I went with the surgery. I had the radical prostatectomy in December of 2016 by a fellowship trained robotic surgeon in Pensacola. Extremely happy with the outcome. Next month is 5 years. PSA since surgery has been less than .01. Hopefully this next one will be also. My advise is robotic assisted surgery by a fellowship trained robotic surgeon who has done a lot of this procedure and also is the person who is doing the whole surgery start to finish. Best of luck and e mail is in my profile if you are interested in more details. | |||
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Praying for a good outcome for you Steve. Seems like it was caught in the earlier stages which is a big plus. | |||
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Thanks for posting and sharing. It's something that affects all men if they live long enough. I take finasteride, flowmax caused me too much pain. Everyone needs to be checked regularly for prostate issues. Prayers for you for a cancer free outcome. "Someday I hope to be half the man my bird-dog thinks I am." looking forward to 4 years of TRUMP! | |||
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Not everyone. The general recommendation for men is to stop getting PSA tests after age 70. https://www.mayoclinic.org/tes...%20life%20expectancy. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Best of luck. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Lucky to be Irish |
Steve, I found the Healing Well forum very helpful. They have a section devoted to prostate cancer: https://www.healingwell.com/co...ty/default.aspx?f=35 Lots of good info from folks who have been there. I’m a 10 year survivor and had robotic surgery. My gleason was 3+3=6 from the biopsy and 3+4=7 when they tested the gland after removal. You’ll hear this often - drink lots of water and do your Kegel exercises religiously. Finally, it helps to have a surgeon who has done MANY of these procedures. My doc had done over 1000 robotic procedures with the DaVinci Robot. It doesn’t hurt to ask your Urologist. Here’s hoping for a successful procedure, quick healing and your first “undetectable” PSA. | |||
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| Altitude Minimum |
^^^^Forgot to mention it is normal for the Gleason score to be more when the prostate is sent to the lab… | |||
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| Lucky to be Irish |
I did not know that. I can understand the biopsy needles are hit and miss and the post surgery biopsy is done on the entire gland. Didn’t know it was normal to be higher. | |||
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A 74 yo person came to my chiropractic office, and during x-rays he informed me that he had stage 4 prostate cancer. He lowered his PSA from 71 to 1, using: 1. Fenbendazole 2. an ablative treatment performed by an MD in Florida. 3. Some supplements inc. mushroom extract. -c1steve | |||
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| Altitude Minimum |
Let me rephrase. It is not unusual for it to be higher. My bad. | |||
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I just had my 10 year anni. last Oct. from my DaVenci procedure(robot surgery). All of my PSAs have been undetectable.....just like I want it. Oddly enough, I still have to get up 2-3 times/night to pee, but I drink liquids all day long, and take a glass of h2o with me when I go to bed. It has been such a relief to keep seeing the negative PSA reports. Go get it done, and get on with your life. | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer several years ago. Checked with a couple doctors and found one that used X-Ray radiation to fight cancer. Went thru about 39? treatments. All painless with no side effects. Cancer is gone, never returned. I cannot recommend that type of treatment highly enough. No hard radiation or its side effects. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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PSA - prostate specific antigens OK, prostatectomy/DaVinci survivor here, a question. Why follow-up PSA tests with no prostate? Why would there be any prostate specific antigens? I've asked my uro and get some mumbo jumbo response that makes nothing clear. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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Each lab provides a different number for "undetectable". Mine says <0.1, but for a few years (different lab) it was <0.13 (two digits). I don't think anyone gets a zero. I don't know if that's a CYA thing, or the machines cannot provide that level of accuracy. At first I freaked about not getting zero until my urologist assured me that my numbers were effectively zero (undetectable). When in doubt, mumble | |||
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If the cancer removal was not totally complete, even leaving behind a single cell, it will produce PSA. It may take a year or two or longer, but yearly checks are standard follow-up. When in doubt, mumble | |||
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Wish you luck Steve. I too am watching mine as I'm of the age, as are a couple of buddy's of mine. Early detection is obviously helpful in treatment, so you're going to be OK. Prayers to you pal, eventually we may all wind up in the same boat together. Foster's, Australian for Bud | |||
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You mean Vlad the Impaler?  When in doubt, mumble | |||
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Past Master |
What Timing on this Thread. Good Luck Steve. I was given the news in 2017. Caught very early, after the 1st biosty (I've had 3)slow growing so it was watch & monitor. Genomic testing of 1st biopsy samples told me that I had slow growing, but in 3-4 years it would blow up on me and I would have to deal with it, I took the 3-4 years. Now here we are, I'm going to St louis tomorrow (Barns/Jewish Hospital) to prescreen with the anaesthesiologist. Back on the 29th for robotic surgery. _______________________________________________________________ It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. Harry S. Truman www.CrossCountryQuilting.com "Deep in the heart of the Ozarks" | |||
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Steve in PA - Good luck with yours. I am having a biopsy done on Friday. The doc will use ultrasound to guide the biopsy using the MRI image that found the tumor a few weeks ago. So I am too early to have advice, although I believe in the advice to find the most experienced surgeon available if it comes to surgery. A lot of the info on this subject on the internet is dated. It seems like people don't update the articles... I found articles discussing the benefits of the "new" Da Vinci robotic surgery, although it seems there are now almost 3,000 machines in use in the US (they were introduced in 2000) and they have done 7 or 8 million surgeries! The Mayo Clinic web page seems to have a lot of up-to-date information on PC and its treatment. | |||
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"OK, prostatectomy/DaVinci survivor here, a question. Why follow-up PSA tests with no prostate? Why would there be any prostate specific antigens? I've asked my uro and get some mumbo jumbo response that makes nothing clear." "If the cancer removal was not totally complete, even leaving behind a single cell, it will produce PSA. It may take a year or two or longer, but yearly checks are standard follow-up." This! In my case (robotic), the doc told me that my cancer had breached the prostate wall and that he thought that he had cauterized the surrounding area sufficiently. To be sure, we did follow-up PSA tests which have shown that he was successful. "Cedat Fortuna Peritis" | |||
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