An article appearing today in The American Thinker.

January 22, 2020
Democrats Seek Civil War, But Will Get Revolution
By William L. Gensert
Democrats conspired with foreign agents, lied, cheated, and denied due process to Donald Trump. If they were willing to do that to a duly elected president in order to obtain power, what should Americans expect them to do to them should they refuse attempts to be disarmed?

Democrats understand that an armed America can say, “No!” And they can’t have that. If they want to radically change the America extant for more than two centuries, they need to first disarm Americans. And they realize asking nicely is not going to accomplish this.

Therefore, the ever-equable Democrats have suffered a recrudescence of their desire for the disease of civil war… a disease that has lain dormant for more than 160 years.

Democrats will do their utmost to create a situation where blood is spilled and lives are lost to engender this war. They believe that only bloodshed will finally get the people on their side, willing to cede to them the control they need to “fundamentally transform the United States of America.”

And they have reached a point where they think they can win.

The solipsist left believes they are on the side of all that is good, just, and reasonable and if Americans must die for them to be in control, it is a small price to pay to attain the country they believe America should be.

In their minds, they have no choice. It is only with solemnity and prayerfulness they make this decision. They, along with their partners in the media, have tried convincing; they’ve tried disguising legislation; they’ve tried imprecation of law-abiding gun owners as un-American. But nothing has worked. Virginia gun laws are about the realization by Democrats that the only way to win is to make Americans the enemy. And the only way to do that is to put blood on their hands.

Finally, with full control of state government, including the governorship, Democrats in Virginia acted with celerity, passing legislation which would result in gun confiscation and negation of our Constitution. Only through a violent and bloody confrontation can they unleash the dogs of war on law-abiding Americans. Virginia may have once been for lovers but after the Democrat machinations, they’re going to need a new tag line.

Virginia is a harbinger of what is to come nationwide. If they succeed in Virginia, they can be expected to try the same tactics in other states run by Democrats.

Governor Northam (most famous for wearing blackface and his positive views on abortion after birth) did his best to provoke bloodshed at the Second Amendment rally held in Richmond this past Monday. He put up fences and declared a state of emergency, illegally banning legally owned and carried guns. He meretriciously dissembled about multiple intelligence agencies warning of imminent violence, even terrorism.

Media, of course, did their part, with serial warnings of violence by the right-wingers and white supremacists the nation was told would comprise the many tens of thousands attending the rally. Their message gleefully warned of inevitable bloodshed deliberately spilled by bad people.

Northam and his minions planned all this. They needed to build enough tension to foment the violence necessary to taint all legal gun owners as illegitimate nuts. Members of his administration have threatened calling out the National Guard to seize guns from people whom they hoped would refuse to obey their new legislation. These threats were in response to more than 100 towns, cities, and counties declaring themselves 2nd Amendment “sanctuary” entities where the new laws would not be enforced.

Obviously, the left only supports “sanctuary” for illegal aliens.

Virginia Democrats don’t realize that making war on Americans who support the Second Amendment while trashing the constitution will not get them the new civil war they think they can win. It will only precipitate a new revolution that will destroy them and their party for a generation.

With the rally having been 100% patriotic and peaceful, with not a single arrest, much less rife with endemic violence, the Democrats have put all their cards on the table. Americans everywhere now understand what is coming. The left is coming for them -- coming for their constitutional rights -- coming for their guns.

Americans are a stubborn and independent people. They are not a passive citizenry; they will never be French. They will never surrender their rights when demanded to by an unholy alliance of politicians, media, and an unelected elite.

They will fight. Americans will never give up their guns. The “left” does not understand what will happen when they task the National Guard and LEOs to take legally owned guns. They live in an echo chamber and can’t conceive of anyone telling them, “no,” much less, “Hell no!”

There will be bloodshed, but it won’t be on their terms. It won’t be civil war, or even civil disobedience, it will be guerilla warfare. It will be revolution.

Some estimate that there are more than 400 million guns in America owned by more than a hundred million citizens. This in a nation of 330 million. Americans are the most well-armed and martially trained electorate to have ever existed in the history of humanity.

Remember, every hunter is something of a sniper.

And with the left concentrated on the coasts and in the big cities, the bulk of America’s landmass is inhabited by hunters and other gun owners who believe owning a gun is a constitutional right.

Discounting the assured defections by LEOs and National Guardsmen -- few people want to kill their neighbors to enforce an unnecessary law -- there are simply not enough men they can deploy to even have a slim chance of success.

Yet, ignoring the aphorism “the enemy always has a say,” the left seems intent on forcing war. They have shown gun owners what they can expect, but are oblivious to the ramifications.

They should expect targeted assassinations of leftist leaders, the targeting of power plants serving the cities and coasts, as well as pipelines and electrical grids. They should expect blockades of cities and the sabotage of telecommunications.

There will be bloodshed and it will probably be widespread. They are foolish in their desires and ignorant of the consequences.

Democrats want this war. Someone should tell them they should be careful what they wish for.

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I think you pasted the article twice in the same post

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Democrats want this war. Someone should tell them they should be careful what they wish for.

This is the statement that the democRATS should seriously consider and take to heart.

I am modestly worried about this. If the left keeps pushing like they have been, there will be violence, and it will happen as the author notes. It will be a form of guerrilla combat where politicians and enforcement officers are threatened, assaulted, wounded or killed. When that happens, the positions of the sides will harden, and there will be significant bloodshed.

Arguably, it stared with the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise by the wacko Bernie supporter a couple of years ago. Things have obviously been quiet since, but I fear that won't last. Random violence is dangerous but manageable. I truly fear organized, systemic violence that will destroy the trust between groups that has, for the last 160 years, permitted us to exist as a nation with divergent views on a great number of subjects.

We are living in very interesting times. Never before in my life have I considered that widespread violence between divergent groups of Americans was even possible. I am coming to believe that it is nearly inevitable.

I hope for the sake of all of us, and the nation, that good sense prevails. The problem is, "our side" feels that it has been giving and never getting for years, and that we will be pushed no further. The left feels that they have been winning, and now is the time for total victory. That is a recipe for disaster.

People are willing to fight under two conditions: (i) they feel their opponent is weak or divided; or (ii) they feel they have absolutely no alternative. Hopefully events like the Virginia rally will show the left that we are neither weak, nor divided and that will give us the space to determine that we have alternatives in civil society, the legislative process, and the courts.

I have quite a few issues with this article. The author has a very narrow perspective. We have much broader troubles in this country. The 2A is only a small part of it. His article touches on some of it.

First of all, it’s not just the Democrats that are corrupt. The Republicans are just as corrupt but they’re a little more discreet and careful about it; not so blatantly in our faces. If you recall, they didn’t want Trump either. They wanted an “establishment” candidate (code for corrupt) so they could continue to pass the ball back and forth between them. During which, they play a game of misdirection with us to keep our attention focused elsewhere while they plunder and become increasingly wealthy and powerful.

These people, the American Royalty, are CORRUPT. Our Government is CORRUPT. All of it. The Courts too; they’ve been weaponized. When are people going to acknowledge what’s clearly in front of them? I could literally sit here and type for weeks with example after example.

If we acknowledge this truth, isn’t that what the 2A and our guns are for? To take back our Government from corrupt people that have taken control of it? This author seems to have some circular logic that we need guns to prevent the government from taking away our guns??? If they leave their hands off our 2A, we’ll be content to let them continue raping the country before our eyes.

Instead of focusing so narrowly on the 2A, we need to figure out how to save our Country. If we can do that, we don’t have to worry about assaults on the 2A.

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Very well stated.

Good points, ArtieS.
Especially this:

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I hope for the sake of all of us, and the nation, that good sense prevails. The problem is, "our side" feels that it has been giving and never getting for years, and that we will be pushed no further. The left feels that they have been winning, and now is the time for total victory. That is a recipe for disaster.

The left feels that they have been winning, because they have been winning. The "progressive" movement started in the early 1900's with significant victories in 1913, the 1930's and the 1960's. They have moved this country significantly in the direction of socialism and total government. Individual responsibility and liberty have been on the decline for at least 100 years.
This is the first sign of real push back.

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
I think you pasted the article twice in the same post

I have edited it once, removed the double posting, it showed up again.

Fixed

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Instead of focusing so narrowly on the 2A, we need to figure out how to save our Country. If we can do that, we don’t have to worry about assaults on the 2A.

IMHO it's actually pretty simple, however very few will do what is necessary. The answer is to stop sending your kids to public schools and liberal colleges. Home school your kids or private school if you can afford it. Push for more conservative colleges and push back against this ridiculous thought that degree is the end all be all. Take the trades and avoid the unions like the plague.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
The answer is to stop sending your kids to public schools and liberal colleges. Home school your kids or private school if you can afford it. Push for more conservative colleges and push back against this ridiculous thought that degree is the end all be all. Take the trades and avoid the unions like the plague.

Not all public schools are liberal indoctrination centers. I like the public school my kids go to in our little town. If they do parrot something they heard from school...like Trump is bad, a wall is bad, etc... I set them straight. I explain to him that we need a wall to keep the illegals out. The left wants to take our guns, etc...

I feel like I would be limiting myself and my family if my wife (or I) stayed home and home schooled our kids. 2 incomes allows us to do so many more things. Plus, I would like to have a well funded retirement.

By the time my kids graduate high school they will know how to wire an outlet, solder copper joints and rebuild an engine. All stuff my dad taught me.

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Originally posted by pessimist:
I have quite a few issues with this article. The author has a very narrow perspective. .... Snip...

I agree, but...

I think that the larger issue you talk about is that there are now two fundamentally divergent views of the American Idea. Those on the left emphasize communitarian values, what you might call "false equality" or "equality of outcome", centralized control, rule by technocrats, and direct democracy, i.e., rule by majority, which they can shape through media, perception, and propaganda.

Those on the right envision a nation which prioritizes the opportunity and liberty interests of the individual or "equality of opportunity", devolves control to the lowest practical level, and relies on small "r" republican virtues (i.e., those of a republic) to safeguard the rights of disfavored minorities of all flavors. The author specifically identifies with, and comments from the perspective of 2A supporters as that disfavored minority, however his point is applicable to the larger split in American society.

The structures that our founders put in place to safeguard a republic have been under assault for generations. First was the direct election of Senators, rather than election by state legislature, next was the development of the Administrative State under Wilson and Roosevelt, and finally, was the activism of the federal judiciary starting in the late 1950s and continuing through to the present day. We hang on to a republic by the skin of our teeth.

What you call "corruption" is, I think, more accurately referred to as "will to power" coupled with a desire for technocratic control of society. The establishment elements of both the Democrats and Republicans are guilty of this, and both have worked in a go-along-get-along way to maintain a status quo.

An activist left, driven by generations of establishment success is now pushing hard for their socialist end game. An awakened right has recognized the existential nature of this threat, is involved in the destruction of the establishment Republican party, and is beginning to realize that it must fight, and fight hard to maintain the virtues of a republican system.

I think the Virginia rally is a fantastic opening to a conservative, limited, liberty-based understanding of the American Idea, and I was thrilled to see so many young people, women, and people of color in the crowd.

We may take a few more hits, but I think, in the long run, we will prevail. And I hope and pray that the fight never gets bloody.

The bottom line is the left wants total control. They know the only way to achieve total control is to disarm the populace.

The populace knows if they are disarmed they will be under total control.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
The bottom line is the left wants total control. They know the only way to achieve total control is to disarm the populace.

The populace knows if they are disarmed they will be under total control.

In my opinion, that has always been their first objective.

I can't imagine LOCAL LE or Guard Units disarming their neighbors. NOT in rural America.

If it got that far, I'd hate to be the LE or Guardsman brought in to enforce any confiscations.

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This, right here what “FN in MT” said will be the driving element whether it goes forward or not.

The Left continually calls for the use of the National Guard (NG) and local Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs) to go door-to-door to confiscate the “evil gun” which prevents them from taking full and complete control. They must have seen those “Star Wars” movies too many times to think that the NG and LEOs are mindless “Storm Troopers” that can be called forth from some hidden base to enact and enforce their unlawful directives, and to round up “The Deplorables” and send them to the “re-education camps” like what existed in Stalin’s 1930s Soviet Union.

The Left forgets that members of the NG and LEOs are by day civilians and live among the general populace and are the very ones that the Left fears. Further, the general populace knows who the members of the NG and LEOs are, and where they live, shop, worship, send their kids to school, etc. When push-comes-to-shove with whom do you think the NG and LEOs will side? Family comes before following the orders of a faceless tyrannical bureaucracy, especially when retribution can be easily visited upon them in return.

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Originally posted by pessimist:
I have quite a few issues with this article. The author has a very narrow perspective. We have much broader troubles in this country. The 2A is only a small part of it. His article touches on some of it.

First of all, it’s not just the Democrats that are corrupt. The Republicans are just as corrupt but they’re a little more discreet and careful about it; not so blatantly in our faces. If you recall, they didn’t want Trump either. They wanted an “establishment” candidate (code for corrupt) so they could continue to pass the ball back and forth between them. During which, they play a game of misdirection with us to keep our attention focused elsewhere while they plunder and become increasingly wealthy and powerful.

These people, the American Royalty, are CORRUPT. Our Government is CORRUPT. All of it. The Courts too; they’ve been weaponized. When are people going to acknowledge what’s clearly in front of them? I could literally sit here and type for weeks with example after example.

If we acknowledge this truth, isn’t that what the 2A and our guns are for? To take back our Government from corrupt people that have taken control of it? This author seems to have some circular logic that we need guns to prevent the government from taking away our guns??? If they leave their hands off our 2A, we’ll be content to let them continue raping the country before our eyes.

Instead of focusing so narrowly on the 2A, we need to figure out how to save our Country. If we can do that, we don’t have to worry about assaults on the 2A.

I am in agreement with you. Democrats certainly do not have the market cornered on corruption. The Washington incumbents have one goal no matter the affiliation.

Re-election is that goal.

Term limits would be a start but all incumbents would vote no in self preservation mode. None of them want to sever the lifestyle of government and lobbyists’ money.

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Originally posted by 1967Goat:

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Originally posted by thunderson:
The answer is to stop sending your kids to public schools and liberal colleges. Home school your kids or private school if you can afford it. Push for more conservative colleges and push back against this ridiculous thought that degree is the end all be all. Take the trades and avoid the unions like the plague.

Not all public schools are liberal indoctrination centers. I like the public school my kids go to in our little town. If they do parrot something they heard from school...like Trump is bad, a wall is bad, etc... I set them straight. I explain to him that we need a wall to keep the illegals out. The left wants to take our guns, etc...

I feel like I would be limiting myself and my family if my wife (or I) stayed home and home schooled our kids. 2 incomes allows us to do so many more things. Plus, I would like to have a well funded retirement.

By the time my kids graduate high school they will know how to wire an outlet, solder copper joints and rebuild an engine. All stuff my dad taught me.

Sure not all are bad. But most are. Just so you know, I don't speak from an armchair. I taught in a non-profit private school for 20 years. My knowledge comes from dealing with kids who came out of public schools. I would suggest that even more than relying on what your kids tell you that you should look closely at their textbooks. Odds are you'll see a lot more worthy of conversation. This is not an attack on you or your family, just something to think about.

Recently, our weekly local newspaper, located at the county seat, did a "Man on the Street" questionaire with 5 people. 3 men, 2 women, young and old, black, and white.

"Do you approve of Gun Registration?"

Every one of them answered Yes, with most all stating they thought it would help prevent crime. Registration has nothing to do with reducing crime, as we know, but I was just amazed at how clueless those citizens were about the true nature of the gun registration .

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Recently, our weekly local newspaper, located at the county seat, did a "Man on the Street" questionaire with 5 people. 3 men, 2 women, young and old, black, and white.

"Do you approve of Gun Registration?"

Every one of them answered Yes, with most all stating they thought it would help prevent crime. Registration has nothing to do with reducing crime, as we know, but I was just amazed at how clueless those citizens were about the true nature of the gun registration .

I suspect they're clueless because they only ever hear about how registration and universal background checks will make the public safer.

Wolverines!