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New California Declares "Independence" From Rest Of State
CBS News, Jan. 16, 2018

With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence, founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what they hope will eventually lead to statehood. XBS Sacramento reports they don't want to leave the United States, just California.

"Well, it's been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, education, you name it, and we're rated around 48th or 50th from a buisness climate and standpoint in California," said founder Robert Paul Preston.

The state of New California would incorporate most of the state's rural counties, leaving the urban coastal counties (basically from just north of San Francisco down to San Diego - IC) to the current state of California.

"There's something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed," Preston said.

But unlike other separation movements in the past, the state of New California wants to do things by the book, citing Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution and working with the state legislature to get it done, similar to the way West Virginia was formed.

"Yes. We have to demonstrate that we can govern ourselves before we are allowed to govern," said founder Tom Reed.

And despite obstacles, doubters, and obvious long odds, the group stands united in their statehood dream.

The group is organized with committees and a council of county representatives, but say it will take 10 to 18 months before they are ready to fully engage with the state legislature.

This is not the first effort to split up California. In 2014, Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper submitted signatures to put a measure that would split California in six separate states.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Why would the existing state have to approve? Virginia never approved the creation of West Virginia, did it?

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Why would the existing state have to approve? Virginia never approved the creation of West Virginia, did it?

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New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Why would the existing state have to approve? Virginia never approved the creation of West Virginia, did it?

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Originally posted by BBMW:
For a new state to break off from an existing state, the existing state would have to approve. Given that the big population centers are dependent on resources of the rural areas, this is not going to happen.

It's a dead issue.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
For a new state to break off from an existing state, the existing state would have to approve. Given that the big population centers are dependent on resources of the rural areas, this is not going to happen.

It's a dead issue.

You are probably correct.... for now.
BUT there is a HUGE divide forming in California which will only get worse with time. Also, many leftist are pushing a division as well. I don't think it's a far-fetched idea that the State could divide, however both sides will have to see some benefit for a majority of the California legislature to approve it.

The Liberal Enclaves of San Fangeles might look something like this:



As posted in Calexit thread:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...35/m/8870047314/p/20

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Originally posted by SgtGold:

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Why would the existing state have to approve? Virginia never approved the creation of West Virginia, did it?

Virginia was part of the CSA at the time and didn't participate in the process.

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Originally posted by SgtGold:

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Why would the existing state have to approve? Virginia never approved the creation of West Virginia, did it?

Virginia was part of the CSA at the time and didn't participate in the process.

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Excuse me for asking, but isn't Sacramento also part of the Liberal bastion?

flashguy

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Originally posted by BBMW:
United States Constitution, ARTICLE IV, SECTION 3, CLAUSE 1

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New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress