Back in 2017 Mathew Vitale had his MAGA stolen from his head by Edith Macias. In a video that went viral you watch how she proudly proclaims the theft and cannot understand why the police take a dim view. Perhaps we can predict how this case will turn out.

In July 2018, Edith Macias in a plea bargain, pled guilty to one count of petty theft. The original charge was grand theft.

“Prior to agreeing to the DEJ program, the defendant provided proof that she has already completed eight anger-management classes and wrote an apology letter to the victim and UCR. If the defendant does not complete the DEJ program as agreed upon, she would be sentenced to 10 days in county jail and three years of summary probation,” Hall said.”

“However, Vitale said he did not find her apology letter sincere.

“It read like a fifth-grader wrote it, and when I saw her in court she didn’t look changed at all. She looked exactly the same as the day she stole my property,” said Vitale, who attended the sentencing on Friday.”
https://www.thecollegefix.com/...-hat-in-viral-video/

Honestly, the only way to respond to violence is with violence.

Attackers don't fear the police, or the law. The only way they will second guess their action and perhaps not pursue them is if they are afraid of the potential victim.

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
Would the victim have been charged for laying her out?

They would have both been charged for "Affray"...misdemeanor. The cops charge them and the courts allow the people with no or little criminal history plead guilty and get a deferred prosecution Plea and let them go...(ask me how I know....bitch clawed my face, causing a MRSA infection and leaving visible scar, and she was allowed to pay the cost of court, a fine of $100 and she walked-told not to cause a problem for two years and the sentence of ten days would be expunged...and on top of that I couldn't sue her as it occurred on the job and the PD paid my doctor bills via workers comp...and they never consulted me the victim....FUCK 'em, take a swing and I'm swinging back)

Clear evidence of a person with a mental health crisis and these unstable people are walking around in our society.

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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:
Clear evidence of a person with a mental health crisis and these unstable people are walking around in our society.

I don't care how large a mental crisis this nitwit is suffering from. When she pulls this shit, knock her ass out and let her go through treatment and rehab, along with all the pain that comes with, and let's see how she reacts the next time. Even severe stupidity can be cured through the infliction of severe pain and suffering.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You object to a Christian behaving in a Christian-like manner. Turn the other cheek. That's straight out of the New Testament.

Do you prefer Christians who ignore the tenets of their faith? Such people are not Christians. You have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

This is one of the two key reasons that I can not be a Christian. I would have clocked her as hard as I could.

Ahh Mike, never say never
The hounds of heaven may be barking

I wonder if she had an abortion and seeing those images brought suppressed anger out (anger at herself for having an abortion) that she directed at Austin.

She lashed out because she felt convicted, deep down inside she knows how wrong it is to dismember and kill a living, viable life like that.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
Would the victim have been charged for laying her out?

They would have both been charged for "Affray"...misdemeanor. The cops charge them and the courts allow the people with no or little criminal history plead guilty and get a deferred prosecution Plea and let them go...(ask me how I know....bitch clawed my face, causing a MRSA infection and leaving visible scar, and she was allowed to pay the cost of court, a fine of $100 and she walked-told not to cause a problem for two years and the sentence of ten days would be expunged...and on top of that I couldn't sue her as it occurred on the job and the PD paid my doctor bills via workers comp...and they never consulted me the victim....FUCK 'em, take a swing and I'm swinging back)

I don’t understand that you could not sue her for the permanent scar on you face.

The more I think about it I wonder why the officer issued a citation after a physical attack caught on video. Reverse roles and the guy would be in cuffs before he could say ".... But officer ".

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This is one of the two key reasons that I can not be a Christian. I would have clocked her as hard as I could.

This ^^^^^

I don't know about "as hard as I could," but she'd damn well not have come back for a second round.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:

I don’t understand that you could not sue her for the permanent scar on you face.

I asked a different Judge afterwards, he was a workers comp specialist and because the scar (on my arm-my face didn't scar up, just a small line from the incision to remove the MRSA) was covered under workers comp I (the individual)-couldn't sue as the city paid for everything .

Sounded like bullshit to me then and still does now...it was about two months before the law changed and made leaving scars a Felony in NC....also, the ADA was a pussy and didn't want to argue the case with a much better Defense Lawyer. Defense lawyer found a way to not only get a gob of money, but he managed to get his client the lowest charges he could.

/drift

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Oh, let's use abortion like it's birth control. Let's murder the most innocent, then let's ASSAULT anyone who shows us the TRUTH of what we're actually doing.

This stuff is right out of their handbook.

Murder the innocent.
Attack the guardian.
Claim victimhood.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:

I don’t understand that you could not sue her for the permanent scar on you face.

I asked a different Judge afterwards, he was a workers comp specialist and because the scar (on my arm-my face didn't scar up, just a small line from the incision to remove the MRSA) was covered under workers comp I (the individual)-couldn't sue as the city paid for everything .

Sounded like bullshit to me then and still does now...it was about two months before the law changed and made leaving scars a Felony in NC....also, the ADA was a pussy and didn't want to argue the case with a much better Defense Lawyer. Defense lawyer found a way to not only get a gob of money, but he managed to get his client the lowest charges he could.

/drift

It is bullshit. You had every right to sue her. You may have had to pay your workers comp carrier back out of the settlement or judgement, but any amount received in excess of that, for instance general damages (aka pain and suffering), and punitive damages, would have been yours to keep.

Now, whether or not she had the ability to pay a judgement is a different story. If she had no money, it's like trying to get blood from a turnip. You might have gotten a judgement, but you would like not have been able to collect it.

Woman or not, after that, she would have needed dental work...

“Now, whether or not she had the ability to pay a judgement is a different story. If she had no money, it's like trying to get blood from a turnip. You might have gotten a judgement, but you would like not have been able to collect it.”

That is what the judge told me...she was destitute and only 18, living with mommy...so it was a no/go.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
“Now, whether or not she had the ability to pay a judgement is a different story. If she had no money, it's like trying to get blood from a turnip. You might have gotten a judgement, but you would like not have been able to collect it.”

That is what the judge told me...she was destitute and only 18, living with mommy...so it was a no/go.

Worst fights I had were with females. Guys would give up, Females wanted to rodeo.

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Originally posted by highroundcount:

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Originally posted by RichardC:

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Originally posted by highroundcount:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You object to a Christian behaving in a Christian-like manner. Turn the other cheek. That's straight out of the New Testament.

Do you prefer Christians who ignore the tenets of their faith? Such people are not Christians. You have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

This is one of the two key reasons that I can not be a Christian.

No sir. I grew up in the church and understand the concept of turning the other cheek.

But I also understand that is a double edged sword.

I believe that by having a passive attitude in this case will embolden this woman to attempt injury to another person.

Kind of like not fighting back against a bully, they are just going to do it again.

Hope I make some sense in my rambling.

"Turning the other cheek does not imply pacifism, nor does it mean we place ourselves or others in danger. Jesus’ command to turn the other cheek is simply a command to forgo retaliation for personal offenses."



https://www.gotquestions.org/turn-other-cheek.html

Thank you for clarifying what I was trying to say. You put it much better than I.

I sometimes think Bible passages get misinterpreted.

I believe God does not want his followers to be punching bags as much as he wants them to use good judgement. Someone comes up to you at the beach and kicks sand in your face, probably good to walk away. Someone comes at you throwing haymakers or try's to otherwise put you or yours down, probably a good time to not turn the other cheek.

Otherwise he wouldn't have many followers left I imagine.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You object to a Christian behaving in a Christian-like manner. Turn the other cheek. That's straight out of the New Testament.

Do you prefer Christians who ignore the tenets of their faith? Such people are not Christians. You have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

This is one of the two key reasons that I can not be a Christian. I would have clocked her as hard as I could.

"Turn the other cheek", is a Jewish teaching.

In Judaism, "reasonable doubt" is a given, as mankind cannot see the heart or mind of another and must give latitude for behavior and/or actions to disclose the motive.

If a person strikes you, it may be unintended, or the person striking may have immediate remorse having acted foolishly, in which case, offering the other cheek would result in the first person demurring. But, a person who would strike a second time, and the person struck, stomping them into a mud-hole, then walking it dry, would be considered acceptable by any and all onlookers.

"Turning the other cheek." provides an "out" for the smiter, and the exercise of graciousness by the smitee.

If the bastard takes a second swing, then it's on like Donkey Kong.

So, you can hang with either the Shirts or the Skins, and still be in God's country.

God's a pretty good locksmith. Bet He can deal with that "other" key.

But that is between you and Him.

I've only hit one female. As a 9th grader, I rode the bus. There was a 10th grad gal who was a bullying little bitch who also rode the bus. One day as I got up to get off, she brought her foot up and kicked me right square in the ball bag. Before the pain hit, I connected a punch right on her chin and knocked her out cold. I'd do it again.

I, too, was raised to never hit a lady. Women who do this shit are not ladies and deserve exactly what they get.

Stepping to the side of that right cross and bringing an uppercut up right into her chin would have been a beautiful thing to see. I'd be willing to bet my next paycheck that she'd think twice about pulling a stunt like that again.